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EVOKE
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2013
Rapper, producer, and singer/songwriter EVOKE was chewed up and spit out by the Colorado rave scene by age 17. More than a decade of sobriety later, the memories of dark churning electronica provide a backdrop for snappy, energetic flows, impassioned belting, soft heartfelt singing, and everything in between.
It's never over. Tomorrow is another day.
It's never over. Tomorrow is another day.
EVOKE - Ready Player One
Lyrics:
Every word I’m speaking is a passion project
Serving sentences through bars
I’m the subject and the object of your affection
Language is an art, you study mine as an elective
My name is on the board and I approve this message
It's fun-I win any game that’s zero sum
You can call me Ready Player One
The better player won
I’m always in control
I’m the only enemy you really need to know
Leave a message at the tone I set
Ready Player One-the only callback you’ll get
Don’t test me. You don’t wanna know my best
The better player won already-oops I did it again like Britney
So emotional I feel like I’m Whitney
Flow going so hard they don’t believe that I’m indie
Flow going so hard you would think that it’s Niagra on Viagra
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever written
You still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still
Be still
They say if you have another option you should choose it
There’s no good careers in music
Try accounting or computer science
Who the hell are you to think that you could ever do this?
They only say that if they haven’t heard the new shit
I’m throwing up deuces
I won’t dance for their amusement
A dodecaduple thread
I can lie down when I’m dead
I’ll revive myself again and again and a-fucking-gain
I don’t cause a scene I am the scene
I am all your fantasies: comedies and tragedies
Of the people for the people
And that’s all I have to be
Everything I need comes naturally
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
You still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still my beating heart
-
Now every part’s the easy part
I have seen and been the dark
I’ve restarted just to need to re-restart
I am not competing. I’m the bar
The end all be all enby you have all been fiending for
When you say “they say”, I’m the They you’re speaking for
My every frame’s a painting
Every speech a feeding frenzy
Biters try to nibble
But I’ve been eating since before you were a kitten
I can do pop
I can do hop
The god and the goddess of every drop
Never gonna stop it
When I lock in
Cause I don’t miss shots
Never been caught lacking
I’m not acting
I’m a good kid but I’ve gone bad
So let me at em if they want that
They’ll soon learn not to come for me
I do it so comfortably
I move in good company
On top and you’re underneath
Like Krav Maga or a Glock
Now I need a permit just to talk shit
Haven’t shot up in a minute though
Ten years in recovery
You think you can go in more than dope did?
Be real with me
Be still with me
You still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still
Every word I’m speaking is a passion project
Serving sentences through bars
I’m the subject and the object of your affection
Language is an art, you study mine as an elective
My name is on the board and I approve this message
It's fun-I win any game that’s zero sum
You can call me Ready Player One
The better player won
I’m always in control
I’m the only enemy you really need to know
Leave a message at the tone I set
Ready Player One-the only callback you’ll get
Don’t test me. You don’t wanna know my best
The better player won already-oops I did it again like Britney
So emotional I feel like I’m Whitney
Flow going so hard they don’t believe that I’m indie
Flow going so hard you would think that it’s Niagra on Viagra
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever written
You still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still
Be still
They say if you have another option you should choose it
There’s no good careers in music
Try accounting or computer science
Who the hell are you to think that you could ever do this?
They only say that if they haven’t heard the new shit
I’m throwing up deuces
I won’t dance for their amusement
A dodecaduple thread
I can lie down when I’m dead
I’ll revive myself again and again and a-fucking-gain
I don’t cause a scene I am the scene
I am all your fantasies: comedies and tragedies
Of the people for the people
And that’s all I have to be
Everything I need comes naturally
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
You still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still my beating heart
-
Now every part’s the easy part
I have seen and been the dark
I’ve restarted just to need to re-restart
I am not competing. I’m the bar
The end all be all enby you have all been fiending for
When you say “they say”, I’m the They you’re speaking for
My every frame’s a painting
Every speech a feeding frenzy
Biters try to nibble
But I’ve been eating since before you were a kitten
I can do pop
I can do hop
The god and the goddess of every drop
Never gonna stop it
When I lock in
Cause I don’t miss shots
Never been caught lacking
I’m not acting
I’m a good kid but I’ve gone bad
So let me at em if they want that
They’ll soon learn not to come for me
I do it so comfortably
I move in good company
On top and you’re underneath
Like Krav Maga or a Glock
Now I need a permit just to talk shit
Haven’t shot up in a minute though
Ten years in recovery
You think you can go in more than dope did?
Be real with me
Be still with me
You still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still with me
Are you still with me?
Be still
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A music friend showed me this song if I recall correctly years ago. I always find myself coming back to this every now and then. It still hits hard.
Can you have family or kids ?
I was having so much suicidal thoughts 10 years ago as a teenage, also suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder. I got diagnosed with bipolar, spent my whole life fighting bipolar. Not until my husband recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment changed my life for better. I can proudly say i'm totally clean for 6 years and still counting. Always look to nature for solution to tough problems, Shrooms are phenomenal.
I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
Yes sure of mycologist Pedroshrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, addiction. Mushrooms did a total reset for me.
I'm so very happy for you mate, Psilocybin is absolutely amazing, the way it shows you things, the way it teaches you things. I can not believe our world and our people shows less interest about it's helpfulness to humanity. It's love. The mushrooms heals people by showing the truth, it would be so beneficial for so many people, especially politicians and the rich who have lost their way and every other persons out there.
Where do I reach this dude? If possible can I find him on Google
It’s so difficult to do anything when I’m depressed, I can’t find pleasure in anything. When I’m hypomanic I’m either spending money I don’t have or I’m yelling at people I love for no reason and feel incredibly guilty for it
New song goes hard! Hope you're doing well. Been a fan for like a decade now. Keep making art <3
Underrated
Keep em comin 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Hi where did u seek out your testing..I've been asking the place I go to.for a while now..please any info will.help
Congrats on your rejection! I'd ask for livestreams but I'm terrible about actually finding the time to tune in.
Dopeeeeee♡
This is the hype and inspiration I needed today. Lyrics 🤯 production 🚨🚨🚨
Bro it's actually insane. As you describe the whole cycle of - I'm gonna try a new hobby and do it like a maniac, meditation, boxing, cold shower, waking up everyday at the same time - I'm like "yeah, that's me". I'm getting extremely motivated and start with all those good things but afterwards I'm falling into a hole, and I'm just wondering whats happening because I was just THAT guy who's extremely productive, social, full of energy bla bla bla. But not all the time. But why? Am I just a looser seeking for an excuse? I got diagnosed with Bipolar 2 and I'm quite happy to see, that there are truly other people dealing with that stuff. Before that, no one really understood what I experienced over and over and over - this cycle of up and downs. But know I'm aware and try to realize the phase I'm in.
How are things going with the meds these days? I tried lithium but I didn't like the way it made me feel.
Going well! Thanks for asking. I'm still taking Lamotrigine. I found a steady dose just above 200mg that I haven't had to adjust in a few years now. Occasionally if my hypomania gets me really stressed out, I'll take a hydroxyzine as an in-the-moment anxiety med, but that happens pretty rarely (once every few months).
Hi! thanks for the video. I was diagnosed with bipolar 2 a few weeks ago, but I'm an unusual patient since I had many depressive episodes (some really bad, with suicide attempt and hospitalization) but I only had ONE hypomaniac episode which lasted for almost three years. So I was uncertain about my diagnosis. Anyway seeing this video really helps so thank you❤
Thanks for sharing your perspective on that weird situation. I personally miss the livestreams, but I enjoy all of the other video ideas.
Livestreams it is 🫡 Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for sharing your experiences! I tried leaving a more detailed comment earlier, but TH-cam removed it for some reason... Either way, I found a lot of what you described to be very relatable. Glad that you're continuing to share your art with the world despite rejection.
Oh that’s frustrating that your comment got removed! I can’t see it anywhere on my side either unfortunately so I’m not sure what happened. Thanks for the comment and kind words! I appreciate the support.
good
Thanks for watching 🙂
What I want is to see one of my fav composers to be successful :P On a separate note, as a fellow composer who's basically unknown, may I share one of my most recent visions with you? Not necessarily looking for feedback or anything, but I'm always excited to share my new music with others lol
Would love to check it out!
Lithium is the best medication and there is no weird bias in giving it because it is an element and can't be patented.
I’ve heard great things! I know the dosage is very different now than when it initially got its bad reputation. Unfortunately when I took it, my body didn’t react very well, and my psychiatrist and I decided that it wasn’t worth the side effects. Glad it works for you and thanks for sharing your perspective 🙂
I don't wanna wait another minute I'm beginning to get a venomous sentiment Administer the medicine My head has been spinning Been inventing like Thomas Edison I'm bitter, but I'll never be quitting cause I'm a veteran And I don't owe you a minute in my position I'm willing to take a second to spill And I'm second guessing the feeling And I'm repressing the skill in it I've been dressing to kill it Like I'm investing in villainy Are you feelin me? Bet you feel a bit better You better feel better A benefit's a benefit Better ever than never I never said I was clever I'd better get it together Cause everything that I said could be forgettable rhetoric God I hope not I don't got a whole lot Left to try, I testify I'm probably Next in line to wreck the mic You gotta be deaf to whine The best is mine, you follow me? [Chorus] And I'm not sure what I've been fighting for It seems like armageddon is upon us Walking with the weight of the world in the way in front of me I'm talking 'bout the fate of the world & the way it's gonna be You're frontin' like they made up the data cause in your fantasy There's something that negated the way that I play, but I'm Trying to keep my focus; I'm hoping for something different While coping with your decisions; I'm choking and no one listens I'm broken but I'm not missin' a moment or reminiscin' I'm totally set on fixin' the motives of politicians Stop Corporations invest in domestic policy While stepping on the press and oppressing us into poverty Depressing that the pressure is messing with our equality The stress is progressing while they decimate our economy We can settle the battle by getting rid of the rubble But you're just hitting the bottle, because you're living for trouble Why can't you get on the level and be a bit of a rebel? When it's a bit of a struggle you shut down. [Chorus] And I'm not sure what I've been fighting for It seems like armageddon is upon us Taking a break and I'm breakin em all Makin a bomb, takin' it all back Makin' it all smack, wakin' em all back up Thinkin' they're all that, bringin' em all back cause I'm bigger than all that rigamarole; that's just the Thing about all that, makin' em all jacked up I'm thinkin' of fallbacks, makin' a call back cause You're thinkin' I'm all whack, thinkin' I'm all smack talk Well let me tell you something It's a bit of a riddle, a little bit of a predicament A bit of a pickle to get rid of all the bitterness If you're cynical, sentimental, or mental: be invisible The minute is critical; the consequences are visceral Consider for a minute the implications Of being a different race When you live in a situation Where people in your nation Assume that it's your laziness Perfectly correlating with money and You're making it poorly The minute the system was invented they made a mockery Of men and of women we descended from, they forgot to read The minimal print up in the center that mentioned robbery Of men with a different color skin they considered property And I can sit & pretend that I did it properly But then again, the fact is I wasn't born into poverty A little big-headed, but the battle was never properly leveled I'm ahead but it was never because I ought to be [Chorus] And I'm not sure what I've been fighting for It seems like armageddon is upon us And I'm not sure what I've been fighting for It seems like armageddon is upon us
This goes hard
Holy fuck I need to see a psychiatrist. I’m fucking drowning
hope you find help
important song
Your diagnosis journey sounds like mine(the part about your therapist and psychiatrist working together). I finally opened up to my aunt about my suicidal ideation, and she referred me to a psychiatrist who diagnosed me with depression. I was given fluoxetine and started therapy,but 2 months down the line, I wasn't feeling better if anything I felt slightly worse but I was afraid of telling my psychiatrist because I thought she'd think I was drug seeking. I finally told my therapist about how I felt,and she helped me set an appointment to see my psychiatrist again(they worked in the same institution),after my meeting with my psch,she gave me an adhd test and asked if my therapist could be a consultant to which I agreed. Thats when she diagnosed me with Bipolar 2,whicg came as a shock to me because I had always self diagnosed myself as ADHD. But the more research i did and continue to do on Bipolar 2,the more i realise my psych was right and im so grateful that she caught it early because so many Bipolar women are misdiagnosed.
Cool❤
15:27 was me. After having the diagnosis for a yr and a half, I'm not in denial anymore that they were right. Accepting this has made my self-esteem and self awareness better because I understand why my life has been how it is.
Lyrics I don't wanna wait another minute I'm beginning to get a venomous sentiment Administer the medicine My head has been spinning Been inventing like Thomas Edison I'm bitter, but I'll never be quitting cause I'm a veteran And I don't owe you a minute in my position I'm willing to take a second to spill And I'm second guessing the feeling And I'm repressing the skill in it I've been dressing to kill it Like I'm investing in villainy Are you feelin' me? Bet you feel a bit better You better feel bеtter A benefit's a bеnefit Better ever than never I never said I was clever I'd better get it together Cause everything that I said could be forgettable rhetoric God I hope not I don't got a whole lot Left to try, I testify I'm probably Next in line to wreck the mic You gotta be deaf to whine The best is mine, you follow me? And I'm not sure what I've been fighting for It seems like armageddon is upon us Walking with the weight of the world in the way in front of me I'm talking 'bout the fate of the world and the way it's gonna be You're frontin' like they made up the data cause in your fantasy There's something that negated the way that I play, but I'm Tr-tr-trying to keep my focus; I'm hoping for something different While coping with your decisions; I'm choking and no one listens I'm broken but I'm not missin' a moment or reminiscin' I'm totally set on fixin' the motives of politicians Corporations invest in domestic policy While stepping on the press and oppressing us into poverty Depressing that the pressure is messing with our equality The stress is progressing while they decimate our economy (Oh?) We can settle the battle by getting rid of the rubble But you're just hitting the bottle because you're living for trouble Why can't you get on the level and be a bit of a rebel? When it's a bit of a struggle, you shut down And I'm not sure what I've been fighting for It seems like armageddon is upon us Taking a break and I'm breakin' 'em all Makin a bomb, takin' it all back Makin' it all smack, wakin' em all back up Thinkin' they're all that, bringin' em all back cause I'm bigger than all that rigamarole; that's just the Thing about all that, makin' em all jacked up I'm thinkin' of fallbacks, makin' a call back cause You're thinkin' I'm all whack, thinkin' I'm all smack talk Well let me tell you something It's a bit of a riddle, a little bit of a predicament A bit of a pickle to get rid of all the bitterness If you're cynical, sentimental, or mental: be invisible The minute is critical; the consequences are visceral Consider for a minute the implications Of being a different race When you live in a situation Where people in your nation Assume that it's your laziness Perfectly correlating with money and You're making it poorly
I also have bipolar 2, But what really made me relate is seeing you were Ableton gang. I produce music and have a similar set up, using Maschine instead of push
this is my fav song rn
Omg it's the most accurate description of bipolar 2. Currently slowly going down trying to keep up with responsibilities I took when I felt better. Yet I'm unmedicated and in Russia and also queer, it's like default that everything sucks here, either u r not on meds too or American healthcare sucks.
Sinister B did a cover of this song at 175% speed
This may not be medical advice, but it's golden advice. Awareness awareness awareness. Then, work on meds, therapy, and anything that helps you feel stable.
Can you work a full time job with bipolar?
Absolutely. I work in the trades anywhere from 40 to 70 hours a week depending on if I have to be on call. Is it always easy? Absolutely not. But is it possible? Yes.
this is what happens when you search up "its a bit of a riddle a little bit of a predicament a bit of a pickle to get rid of all the bitterness if you're cynical sentimental or mental be invisible the minute is critical the consequences are visceral"
Man, i feel like you're telling my exact story.. im seeing a psychiatrists next week but already feel im bipolar 2
We are the same - let’s be best friends 🖤
Literally started crying near the end hearing how someone like me can have people who love them and that I’m still deserving of love
You’re so underrated. I’ve been listening to you for years, and I’ve just been waiting on you to blow up.
Big things are in the works :) Your support means the world and I really appreciate it.
🙌🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Praise Jesus 🙌💕🙏! Thank u sooo much! U r real, u r one of us, u get it! I am soooo grateful for all that u r sharing, bless u 🙏💕🕊! This really helped me, I needed it desperately 🙏💕🕊
How Evoke is so underrated? You deserve more bro 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Thank you for your honesty and being so open.
Seroquel?
I haven't tried it myself, but have known others who have taken it with some success!
Lamictal
Hi! Amazing videos. Do you have links for those tests please? I am also confused abour having bipolar or something else.
Hello! I'm not aware of any online services that offer this service. The company I worked with was the Metis Center in Colorado (and I have no affiliation with them. That's just where I happened to go). Depending on where you're based, you might be able to find something similar. Best of luck!
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<3 <3 <3
Really like the vibes from this song. I definitely agree your work is unique and that's why I like it so much. Still working on confidence myself and this is giving me life.
Much appreciated! That's definitely the intention with songs like this. I imagine folks being able to relate to it themselves and find that confidence. Thanks for listening and supporting!
damn..... that's too good for this world
Glad you dig it. Thanks for listening!
When ur song got popularized because of a marathon map from osu!mania lmfao
Would it be funny if I made a map in standard?
How am I just now learning about this lmao. Is it just this tune or are there others?
wasup danner
@@alwaysevokeevoke, are you beta daniel? 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
And years ago it became a jack map of Malody Dan V3 Extra3
While I appreciate your video saying you will delete "misinformation" is a mistake. I am 56 and the majority of "science" or "medical info" listed as fact has since been proven wrong. (example- through out the 70s' any doctor or "expert" said butter is horrid and use margarine. If back then we had the internet and I posted avoid margarine and use butter "experts" would say that is "misinformation" and push to ban that communication. I am for ALL information available and the antidote for false info is better case for good info.
I understand this view point, but I want to push back on it a bit. Firstly, "the majority" of science and medical info has not been proven wrong. It's absolutely fair to say that there are many things in the history of nutritional and medical science that have been discovered to be incomplete, inaccurate, or often the exact opposite of the truth. Our understanding of our bodies and the world is constantly evolving. Finding accurate results from studies is hard, and it's made harder by the profit incentives and interference of large corporations in the funding of studies on our health. I support skepticism about the way these studies are conducted and the results they sometimes find. In my view, there is a difference between suggesting an alternative treatment and spreading misinformation. For example, folks in the comments have mentioned the Ketogenic diet as a treatment for Bipolar. While not extensively researched, the Keto diet seems to be helping many people with Bipolar Disorder. I tried it myself for about 2 years and had really great results. You'll notice that I haven't deleted those comments because they aren't spreading misinformation. They're just mentioning treatments that haven't been extensively researched yet. An example of spreading misinformation would be comments that say things like "Bipolar disorder isn't real. It's a scam designed to trick people into (etc etc)" or some garbage like that. Things that are fundamentally anti-science, meaningless speculation, uninformed ramblings, or an attempt to politicize the experiences of people with this disorder. If somebody is confidently, factually stating something that has zero evidence or research behind it, that's just misinformation. There's no excuse for it. I personally don't believe those conversations are even worth starting, and I don't feel any moral obligation to allow those conversations to take place in my communities when I have the ability to shut down that kind of fire-starting. It's the same reason I wouldn't invite a hateful and toxic liar to a party. I don't think they have anything to offer to me or the people I choose to surround myself with.
@@alwaysevoke the majority of medicine IS very different than even when I was a kid. I’ve save several lives and been in emergency medicine since 1985. Majority of what we thought was right has been reversed. Example? Drowning victim, roll to one side to get them to expel water. Now it’s immediately breaths as brain oxygen deprivation is paramount. Then AED. Your page your call. Ultimately it ends up one person (you) becoming the arbitrator of what is fact and what isn’t. While I could piece meal pick apart your long response it will waste both of our time as you won’t bend no matter the case laid out. Medicine isn’t math, it’s not concrete. In 50 years most of what is FACT will be reversed history is replete with examples. For me? Lay out any and all information and let individuals decide for themselves. To not do so is narcissistic and close minded. Someone MAY say “try this herb” we can shut it down until “peer reviewed study” and maybe it turns out it works. No one one know as people who think like you will not allow it to be posted. My two cents. Btw I for one don’t have the solution but neither does any one person.
@@alwaysevoke also you mixed “hateful and toxic” with alternate views. Isn’t that hateful and toxic? Toxic to me isn’t toxic to you. Toxic in any institution I’ve worked with is when they won’t allow differences in opinions.
Boils down to YOU are in charge and YOU will decide. If you had someone else do that to you I assure you that you would see THAT as hateful and toxic. It’s the new trend. Narcissistic behavior.
@@rmooremarine I understand how it could be seen that way. I stand by what I said.
I am watching after having strong suspicions about a male family regarding bipolar. So thank you for sharing your journey - it gives so much insight on mental health and your personal experience.