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GT3:C vs. GT4: Suspension & Tire Physics Comparison
A little comparison video to show how suspensions & tires work in the updated physics of GT3: Concept against GT4.
Recently GT3:C got a major suspension damper physics update, which fixed or reduced issues in the vanilla physics. The suspensions act less "robotic", there's more suspension travel, and the suspensions are far more reactive than before. I considered this one of the key issues with GT3's original physics, especially comparing how GT2 actually had decent suspensions compared to GT3, in my personal view. Now with these suspensions there's also more bodyroll and body movement, another issue I had with GT3.
GT3:C also got updated car body yaw values.
Now comparing to GT4, during racing, GT4's suspensions feel completely flat and static compared. I would say I very much prefer GT3:C's new physics over GT4, but I do realize GT4 does some things better than GT3:C; I quite like the very small suspension movements after stopping a car, and I also like that there's even more suspension travel in GT4 (although I feel like it is massively exaggerated in situations like accelerating and braking.) Sadly, thanks to hardcoding limitations, I can't really do much more about suspension travel and that small "jiggling".
Also, about the tires, after seeing how GT4 performed in the "reversing & accelerating" test, there's definitely some things I have to do in the tire compound physics department. Otherwise, GT3:C takes the cake in the tires, GT4's understeer, oversteer, tire slip and handbrake turns are just awful.
• Credits •
Pez2k - A variety of modding tools used, like GT3VOLExtractor.
Sal_89/Seban - Help & research!
My Discord Server - Feedback & ideas!
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  • @MASTERiXPLODE
    @MASTERiXPLODE 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do I actually do Special throw at 2:43? Is it you do both at the same time or do you wait until he grab the opponent and then use the u/b 3+4

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MASTERiXPLODE It can be difficult and inconsistent to do, I believe I immediately input it after the throw.

  • @GamerPro-nw5lf
    @GamerPro-nw5lf 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is posible add new cars models internet 3d, modding in gran turismo 3, replaced original cars game? Example: Suzuki Gran Vitara 1998-2005 2th in gran turismo 3?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GamerPro-nw5lf If you meant if it's possible currently to use custom models, then yeah, though with limitations.

    • @GamerPro-nw5lf
      @GamerPro-nw5lf 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Misuka this bike is tourist trophy model 3d convert?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @GamerPro-nw5lf It's an unused model found in GTC.

  • @Hahahbrrrrr
    @Hahahbrrrrr 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How many cars are there in the mod?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably around 380-400, hard to say for sure as there are still cars in there that are unused like sample cars and such.

  • @alexanderbilar
    @alexanderbilar 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to see bikes in GT3 concept! Really miss the good era with both bikes and cars in game, PGR4 did it perfect!

  • @Eggyteevee
    @Eggyteevee 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:49 that drift tho got damn

  • @Eggyteevee
    @Eggyteevee 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The bike doing a wheelie gives me a "Escudo PTSD" like feel, like I feel like at any moment it'll break the barrier of sound on 1 wheel

  • @Eggyteevee
    @Eggyteevee 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    GRAN TOURIST THROPY

  • @TallTapper
    @TallTapper 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so true

  • @Rumms-Bumms69
    @Rumms-Bumms69 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Modders do what big developers don't - like always ...

  • @simonforis5465
    @simonforis5465 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A properly sounding C5.R Vette?! I gotta get GT3 ported to ma PC!!

  • @viandantelaggante794
    @viandantelaggante794 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ehm... I have a question. This track Is on GT3 concept?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@viandantelaggante794 Sadly not. If the issues within the track could be ironed out, then I see no reason not to include it, although it doesn't have a reverse variation.

  • @pedroantoniomartinezcampos5859
    @pedroantoniomartinezcampos5859 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When is gonna be a download link? Im crazily interested in playing GT3 with these wonderful GT concept cars😬

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pedroantoniomartinezcampos5859 I'm hoping to push a beta out before te end of the year.

  • @LukaoGomes1995
    @LukaoGomes1995 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully the update will be ready by Christmas, okay?

    • @LukaoGomes1995
      @LukaoGomes1995 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is the update ready?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LukaoGomes1995 Hopefully.

  • @C.I...
    @C.I... หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this based on GT Concept, or GT3 itself? I suppose I want to find out if it will be a PAL release like concept was. I would appreciate the higher resolution and 50Hz if so. Edit: Just noticed your vids are 50Hz, so probably the PAL version - nice.

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@C.I... It's based on GT3. It will be PAL initially, but will expand to both NTSC-U and NTSC-J later. (GTC also had NTSC-J releases.)

  • @C.I...
    @C.I... หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would it be possible to fix/adjust rev limiters to work on a time basis rather than a speed/revs basis, so the throttle isn't kept off for ages when reaching top speed? Even GT6 has this behaviour (haven't played past 6)

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@C.I... I've tried, but I haven't found any sort of memory to control the behaviour sadly. It's not something that can be achieved by editing the engine data sadly. For now, it'll sadly have to stay as it is.

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misuka Oh well. Doesn't take away from all the other impressive things you have managed to do with this project. Keep up the good work!

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@C.I... Yeah. It does still bother me greatly so I hope I'll find something to control the rev limiters eventually. And thanks!

  • @andrealibrera9265
    @andrealibrera9265 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, you replace Midfield with Fuji. Isn't there a way to add it without replacing an existing track?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrealibrera9265 Yes, I only swapped the track to be able to show it quickly and easily.

  • @GigasThiccas
    @GigasThiccas หลายเดือนก่อน

    Weird question, but will we be able to keep the original GT3 background osts?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GigasThiccas Yes.

    • @GigasThiccas
      @GigasThiccas หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have no idea how happy you made me with this, thank you SO much!​@@Misuka

  • @datemasamune657
    @datemasamune657 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just found out about this mod how far along ist it?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@datemasamune657 Quite far. Lots of stuff like car physics are basically finished.

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misuka I'm so excited. Well done so far!

  • @jakubkoscielniak5446
    @jakubkoscielniak5446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will the new cars also be as prize cars in some events, championships, endurance races and licenses?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jakubkoscielniak5446 Yes.

    • @jakubkoscielniak5446
      @jakubkoscielniak5446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misuka So no more pink vitz?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jakubkoscielniak5446 I dunno.

  • @TeaKanji
    @TeaKanji 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who enjoys both GT3 and GT4, I feel that most of these comparisons aren't very fair and are heavily biased towards GT3. It looks like you're trying to apply a GT3 driving style of braking late while turning to GT4, which is not how the game is designed to be played. GT3's much more forgiving in that regard, while GT4 punishes you heavily for not braking in advance of the corner. GT4's driving aids are also way stronger than GT3's, and it would have been a more even comparison if ASM and TCS were turned off in both games. Also I'm not sure what what was going on in the GT4 example of the "bumpy roads and curbs" comparison; throwing the car's weight off-center over bumps and letting one wheel touch the grass is inevitably going to cause instability. Meanwhile the GT3 example shows a different problem: how prone to sliding cars are with even slight turn inputs, due to how much body roll cars have. I don't think GT4's handling is without its faults, the way most cars auto-correct themselves when you apply the throttle is a bit much, but I do think the game could have been given a far better representation here. Especially with how much handling can improve with some slight setup adjustments and disabling the assists.

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TeaKanji I was showing GT4 mostly in it's default state. And no, GT3 has very little body roll originally unlike GT4. And my driving, I'm driving to how I'm used in both, 4's physics are restrictive and I'm not going to change my driving habits to sugarcoat 4.

    • @TeaKanji
      @TeaKanji 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misuka It's nothing to do with "sugarcoating", it's literally just applying good braking discipline, controlling the car's weight and following the apex of the corner. All this really compares is the complete casual experience of both games, of what it's like to hop straight into Arcade Mode without adjusting anything. GT3 is naturally more fun because the assists aren't as obtrusive and you can get away with sliding around corners, but GT4 is far more rewarding once you play around with the settings. Completely different experiences, forcing GT4 to play GT3's game makes GT3 look far better.

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TeaKanji Yeah but.. the point was to show GT4 in it's standard form. If I start playing around with settings and whatnot, it's not standard anymore is it?

    • @TeaKanji
      @TeaKanji 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misuka If that's the purpose of the comparison, then objectively I can't argue with that, but I still think I'm allowed to question the usefulness of it and how much it actually applies to someone who has basic knowledge of either game. It would be very short-sighted to use this comparison as proof that GT3 has "better" physics than GT4, because it's far more complicated than comparing how cars handle in Arcade Mode with stock suspension, all assists enabled and a very aggressive driving style.

  • @Alexp37
    @Alexp37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool video

  • @derosiflo6524
    @derosiflo6524 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gt2>the rest of gt games, yes i am biased

  • @Spitboy01-yt6od
    @Spitboy01-yt6od 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tourist Trophy Prologue

  • @claudineiapotenciadoforro9710
    @claudineiapotenciadoforro9710 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know man, I didn't played GT3 too much, but the feeling I got driving a JGTC Castrol Supra in Midfield Raceway is I can throw the car 200km/h in a turn and he still can handle the grip.

  • @oldsilenthill1
    @oldsilenthill1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cmn after playing gt5, gt sport, gt7, and even as reference asetto corsa and dirt rally 2.0, you can tell how far from good are gt3 physics, neither gt4, but gt4 physics feel way better than gt3, in gt3 the car feels glued to the road, far from good physics

  • @konosuhardbass
    @konosuhardbass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never knew how much worse GT4 physics were compared to the previous and later entries. GT4 might be the best GT, but physics are something we don't talk about.

  • @sonnymastrangioli
    @sonnymastrangioli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always felt GT3 got it right. Except for the oil changes EVERY 300 kilometeres on the odometer. Granted its SOLID, full pace racing, but 4 did odometers right where you'd change after a 8 or 24hr endurance race anyway as opposed to 3 was literally every endurance race and 3 races into Formula GT. Wish the oil change warning value could be changed.

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sonnymastrangioli I haven't yet found a value for the oil wear, but I'm fairly sure there is one, if I do find it I'll definitely modify it

    • @sonnymastrangioli
      @sonnymastrangioli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misuka sounds like a challenge! Hopefully its some simple hexadecimal editing!

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sonnymastrangioli Pretty much yeah.

  • @firstnamelastname6738
    @firstnamelastname6738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:09 ''Why the hell is he turning?'' and I then realized ''Oh''. I'm so used to taking that shortcut that I forgot how the layout was.

  • @firstnamelastname6738
    @firstnamelastname6738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be cool to see a GT3 physics restoration project for GT4. I never really thought about it until I saw the comments but GT4 does feel pretty stiff in comparison. And now even looking at how the rally stages were the cars actually felt like they were ''free'' compared to the GT4 physics where the cars are really stiff in the air and acts as if they weigh 5 tons. You don't see any suspension travel it's all just a mass as someone else put it. It's as if every car has the traction and suspension of an F1 car without the grip and power. Explains why I always found the Top Gear clip of the NSX in Laguna Seca so weird when put one to one to the real thing.

  • @Exponaut_R-01
    @Exponaut_R-01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It wasn't intended but I kinda, like, the vanilla map still being there? It's neat watching the dot go off into the old route and seamlessly merge back into the map

  • @Steventhe2nd
    @Steventhe2nd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:21 Excuse me, what in the bloody hell is that noise?!

    • @KaterinUA5
      @KaterinUA5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean the boxer engine or a turbo kit?

    • @Steventhe2nd
      @Steventhe2nd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KaterinUA5 there is no way an Impreza rally car is supposed to sound like that

    • @KaterinUA5
      @KaterinUA5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Steventhe2nd A rally car, that's true. But a street version sounds similar

  • @SATO_FD2R
    @SATO_FD2R 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always loved GT3 more, felt special. GT4 was great, but felt less refined when it came to the feel of the specific car. Guess it can’t be helped due to the sheer number of cars in that game.

  • @patrick_ebonos
    @patrick_ebonos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the NTSC-J version of GT4, there was a hidden assist even if all assists were turned off, which made the behavior when drifting almost uncontrollable. And grip driving wasn't fun either.

    • @KaterinUA5
      @KaterinUA5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In some cases, it's no surprise that NTSC-J version looks like a late preview build...

    • @corollavirus4age
      @corollavirus4age 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have both versions of gt4 is it possible to adjust that?

    • @KaterinUA5
      @KaterinUA5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@corollavirus4age Perhaps with Cheat engine it could be adjusted, if someone finds out where is the code string for that...

  • @f2pgenshinnoob933
    @f2pgenshinnoob933 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GT3 definitely have better tire and weight distribution physics. But what about Enthusia? 👀 I've heard that Enthusia feels better than GT4 in terms of weight distribution

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@f2pgenshinnoob933 Enthusia is all-around better than both GT3-4 probably in every way to be honest.

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What the hell is GT3:C?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scottl.1568 My mod project for GT3.

    • @firstnamelastname6738
      @firstnamelastname6738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spec C (Concept) haha

    • @gamerxt333
      @gamerxt333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A mod that edits the gameplay, and adds cars and tracks, including those that are unused, from GTC, GT4P demos and the Japan version of GT4P. Also is adding bikes.

  • @SpaceCowboy369
    @SpaceCowboy369 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GT4 is just awful all around. Never understood the appeal. It's like the physics engine treats the cars as a point mass rather than having a front and rear distribution. Minimal rotation, even on entry under braking with a lateral load in a rear heavy car. Behaves as if there is no (or minimal) inertia at the rear of the car. Feels as if the SRF aid from GT5/6 is enabled, but on the rear only. It's simply bizarre. And even more baffling how players either accept this and give it a pass, claiming GT4 to be the GOAT or are blissfully unaware of basic vehicle dynamics. GT1 is much more accurate in terms of weight transfer and inertia. The only problem with that game, is the effects are greatly over exaggerated. Whereas they are so greatly under exaggerated in GT4, to the point they virtually don't exist.

  • @gabrielsolon8491
    @gabrielsolon8491 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gt4's rallying feels like driving on solid ice

    • @firstnamelastname6738
      @firstnamelastname6738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Solid ice with occasional tiny bits of oversteer. Similar to the newer forza horizon titles but slightly less grip.

    • @gabrielsolon8491
      @gabrielsolon8491 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@firstnamelastname6738 the ralying on gt3 was great though

  • @azusawa8
    @azusawa8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The rev limit for the 280 horsepower model of the 4th generation Legacy is 7500 rpm, not 7000 rpm.

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@azusawa8 I'm using GT4 data for it. If it was wrong in 4, then yeah, I have it wrong on GT3:C.

  • @Zanarkand_0
    @Zanarkand_0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer GT3's physics over GT4. Especially in the rally. Sliding in GT3 was really fun. It honestly made me wish that there were more rally events.

    • @scottl.1568
      @scottl.1568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll definitely agree that GT3 rally mechanics were much better than 4

  • @VOHRD1996
    @VOHRD1996 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    全日本F3000選手権のようだ👀 素晴らしいです✨

  • @Blueflag04
    @Blueflag04 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unpopular opinion, but GT3 is better than 4 in terms of handling

    • @Space.Folding
      @Space.Folding 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty popular opinion in my opinion

    • @firstnamelastname6738
      @firstnamelastname6738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      felt less understeer-y

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Space.Folding It may be popular in a sense, but usually if you say that, hardcore GT4 fans will bash you for it, so maybe that's why it's unpopular after all. :D

    • @konosuhardbass
      @konosuhardbass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *popular opinion

  • @NotSponsoredByEA
    @NotSponsoredByEA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope you at least add the pod car that would be sick

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NotSponsoredByEA It's in!

  • @LeonardoWessling-ow5yk
    @LeonardoWessling-ow5yk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gt3 tem o trabalho de suspensao mais preciso, jã o gt4 é mais duro.

    • @O_BOSTA_2004
      @O_BOSTA_2004 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Foi o que reparei sempre achei os carros muito grudados no chão no Gran turismo 4 comparado ao 3 a diferença na física dos dois é bem significativa

  • @emilk.4643
    @emilk.4643 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video 👍 but next time videos from PS2 games please encode the video in 4:3, nit 16:9, because right now aspect ratio is ruined and it hurts eyes to look at it..

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@emilk.4643 It is in 4:3. It might look odd because I have the aspect ratio fit to window.

    • @emilk.4643
      @emilk.4643 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misuka If so, you should change it next time. TH-cam plays it stretched to 16:9. Try some different settings, and one will work 👍

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@emilk.4643 I guess I can run the emu with a proper 4:3 aspect, but it will then have black bars on both left and right. Dunno if I turn the in-game 16:9 mode on if that would make it look more easier on the eyes.

    • @caifabe8050
      @caifabe8050 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misuka yes, use the in-game 16:9 setting, it's MUCH easier on the eyes. this is stretched to shit.

  • @0GTXR
    @0GTXR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ough that aspect ratio

  • @pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man
    @pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The unused bike from gtc 2002 tokyo-seoul complete for gt3

  • @pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man
    @pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes...no need for gt4 cars on gt3...just gt4p, gt4 prius trial version and GTC 2002 cars only for gt3 and only gt4p and some gtc and beta gt3 tracks too.

  • @hlavco
    @hlavco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All of the suspension calculations are a bit complicated for me, but it's cool that you're able to tweak them to your liking. Do you know which parameters I would need to change to stop the Lancia Stratos front tires from clipping through the hood when braking?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hlavco Sadly you can't really do anything to fix the Stratos. The issue is that the model is rendered too low, it should be way higher, so yeah, without somehow editing the model's Y position, you can't really do anything about it.

    • @gamerxt333
      @gamerxt333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess even raising the ride height to max, isn't a solution either then ?

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gamerxt333 IIRC, I have tried it, and it doesn't still work like it should. Additionally the suspension will act very different thanks to the high height.

    • @hlavco
      @hlavco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Misuka Ah, that's a shame about the Stratos. Thanks for your input.

  • @Sapizanza
    @Sapizanza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After 23 years of playing GT I still can't understand when people say GT4 physics are better than in GT3

    • @Misuka
      @Misuka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd have to agree. Certain aspects of GT4 physics are better for sure, but overall, it's a worse experience.

    • @pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man
      @pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MisukaYeah like when they improved the escudo glitch...it was more like improvement too far because it became unstable in gt4 aswell

    • @Space.Folding
      @Space.Folding 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      GT4 fans get really offended when they get told their GOAT is in fact not that great compared to GT3

    • @pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man
      @pcguy5491-the-modern-retro-man 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Space.Folding geez I don't know why as it's just how the game somehow was

    • @AFellowDoktuh
      @AFellowDoktuh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For me it was never really about the physics, but more so the god awful chase camera they used in GT4 and all GT games after 4, the stiff chase camera is still awful even in GT7.