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And when I look around, and I guess this has been true throughout history, music as a profession skews male. Fits with the long historical pattern of fearing female music.

Ted, thank you for your analysis. Personally, when I listen to John Coltrane, I hear something beyond the sound, something more that connects us to something greater...

The main reason is KOB has a more accessible sound than the previous Bebop era. Miles and Bill Evans deliberate decision to strip down the number of chord changes and play modally is more pleasing to the ears of non-jazz listeners. The previous focus of jazz was on dense and dissonant chords at a faster tempo that sounds unfamiliar and unpleasant to the non-developed ear. That decision and the caliber and compatibility of each player and the focus on lyricism instead of technique allowed the audience of jazz to expand in a major way.

It's what the Grateful Dead used to do. This was one of the reasons they had such an enduring audience.

I think people over-intellectualise it. I'd only ever listened to rock, but had bought a few jazz compilations out of curiosity, though nothing caught me. Then on an old 'Critics' Choice' vinyl there was this track that leapt out right from the first listen, a thing called 'So What'. I'd never heard of 'Kind of Blue' and barely knew of Miles Davis, but I loved that album straight off because it was accessible to someone who loved rock music. It wasn't until years later that I learned of its reputation. 'A Love Supreme', on the other hand, I don't get at all. Coltrane just seems to be tooting at random a lot of the time. You understand, I'm not saying it's no good; just that if you're not educated in jazz it's incomprehensible.

LEONARD COHEN is my favourite of all Time...he was treated badly back in the late 60s and 70s..you were a joke if you listened to him. 6:37 can't say anymore it's making me 😢❤him..A Humble Man...

At my house I have thousands of blues recordings. I play every single day.

It's why Brandon Gabriel tried to bring note bending in his solo for E minor Blues back into his music.

Do you think the album does the same thing? Although it's multiple songs, they continue for like 20 mins half an hour. I have been thinking about individual songs and the dance. When playing live it would seem short songs disturb dances unless the transitions are really good.

Legend has it, Ted is still reeling it in.

the hands are a distraction

oh you mean Johnny mathis

I think you`re mistaking blues` influence for something inherent in the music. It had it`s various explosions during great technological advances where it could share itself to the widest audience ever up to that point. It was big because for many people it was new and there was access to it. If you search "why do all blues sound the same" you will get MANY results. With the internet, you can now listen to many blues songs in a row and see for yourself. We still have a huge Soul(the son of the Blues) influence in pop music, almost to a noxious degree, even the country music. All the popular blues players in the sphere are great lick players with no genius. On one end you have people complacent with Soul and Hip Hop(son of Soul) and people who are complacent with the Blues. What music needs is real genius and exploration. There`s is no going back to a moment in time where the Blues/Jazz showed us the way forward. Imagine youre talking about Ragtime`s disappearance from pop culture. Genre wise it`s arbitrary, stagnation is the problem and the 20th century brought us here.

Interesting. I probably had that in me when younger, but now and for a good while I don't care what anyone thinks of what I like or don't like or even what my music sounds like. Do not care at all. There are bigger problems and things we should focus on. It's like we all need to do some growing up. On another note, just like Nero and Rome burning, when Katrina hit down in Orleans and beyond there were still a lot of people needing help and G W Bush got on stage with some country guy I think he was and he grabbed the guitar and started strumming a G chord. Only problem was (other than his not caring about the people) he was fretting the open G chord on the guitar on the 3rd and 4th frets, not 2nd and 3rd.

I’m a classically trained violinist. And I listened and still listen to classical music. High school college today. My friends listen to it while we were in our cars. Rap, heavy metal, pop…all took backseat to my classical. And they all loved it.

You said it... a milestone!

Hello! Just to Say that Flamenco , flamenco guitare it's aslo very Focus on High Technic and virtuosity :)

I love Chris de Burgh

I noticed while performing the Karl Jenkin's Requiem, just how long and repetitive the introductory movement was (nearly 7min), and speculated it was for such a reason: To acclimate to the musical setting (at the beginning of the performance, having recently walked in off the street). I also recorded it in 360: th-cam.com/play/PLs2h0txhcJDxY8oiT_pdultr0OGQ7cUGC.html

Yep a prophet he is

So basically macho men are gonna be ashamed of non manly stuff, whether it’s music, art, homosexuality, a desire to cook, shopping for clothes or choosing what colour to paint the bathroom.

I don't think you are right. Take a super populair song like Bad Guy from Billy Eilish. That's like a blues in G. It uses dominant 7 chords which are not dominants like in classical music, very blues like. And Billy sings the minor third over major. Very blues like. The blues is often also hidden. Beatles started doing that, but it is still hapening in many songs. More often in R & B of course.

The guitar is so well suited to playing the blues and everyone who learns guitar, especially electric, eventually learns blues vocabulary. Modern popular music is not as guitar driven as it used to be, so that is probably a big factor in the decline of the style. An artist like Jack White is still a pretty big champion of the blues, so it's not completely dead.

Very good point. If no 'collector' will preserve our cultural achievements, who will? It feels almost as if we are being trained to not valuing music any more. It is an alarming trend across many art forms.

Have you seen Michael Tellinger and Robert Edward Grant about sound and music Cure for Cancer with frequency Putting out fire with sound

Talk about a polymath. This guy's knowledge is legion!

Have you studied the power of vowels and how they affect everything Michael Tellinger On how 100,000 hz to 300,000 hz cures cancer Also how sound puts out fires

Amazing insights, thank you!

also consider the sun of latin music and love supreme

I like Idle Moments.. the Grant Green album

Record collector and DJ here. I never stopped owning music, both in digital and physical (vinyl) formats. I always had a sense of attachment to my music collection that compelled me to own it. Streaming is the McDonald's-ization of music: Consume and forget.

Is it the greatest? Ever since they corrected the pitch!

Wasn't the 20th Century pop song length determined by the limit of the 78rpm record side?

I used to be ashamed of admitting I used to love cheesy mainstream pop songs when I was a kid in the 80s thinking they were the greatest things I ever heard, especially later in my late 20s when I was hanging out with experimental avant garde musician types who worshipped John Zorn and Stockhausen... but now that in my middle age, I don't give a shit anymore. I have no more shame left in me. My shelf of music has Steve Reich next to Kylie Minogue, and honestly nobody gives a shit. 😂

I'm proud of all the music I collected throughout the years and can defend why I think it's great

The Smiths..tall and proud..Morrissey solo..totally ashamed.

Interesting well-thought out perspective. It was interesting hearing the perception of the album changing over the years. I believe that history rewards certain elements of art. If you look at artists we still know today from hundreds of years ago, like Bach, Chopin, Mozart, Van Gogh, Da Vinci etc. They all of course were masterful craftsmen, but they were also innovators! If this is true, art that had alot of hype but might not be well-crafted or innovative might become more and more forgotten as time goes by. The well-crafted groundbreaking art will stay relevant. Because hype comes and goes, tastes change, but history never forgets who changed the artistic landscape. For example The Beatles will never be forgotten for this reason, but some other very big bands will be.

Nope. Not here.

I wholeheartedly agree and still purchase 90% of new (to me) music on CD. I know there are alleged lifetime issues for CDs, but I have a 40 yr old Talking Heads CD that still works. It was a Phillips pressing with the silver, fwiw.

I am not ashamed of it, but I do enjoy a little Muzak, et al, now and again.

Nerver ashamed of the music i listen too. If you dont care for it that's fine. I feel everyone should listen to the music that they like.

M. Gioia is definitely on the same level as the Late Frank Zappa was... A brilliant commentator and musician!! Keep the good work up, M. Gioia!!!

An excellent introduction to a very interesting subject, one that really demands more than six minutes to fully parse. Much of the very best music combines the masculine/feminine, Apollonian/Dionysian, etc. which is why the second movement of Beethoven's 7th Symphony can simultaneously thrill our intellect while moving us to tears. I'm grateful that I have no guilty pleasures in music ... it's all pure pleasure, no guilt. As Duke Ellington said, there are two kinds of music: good and bad, and I like the good kind no matter the flavor.

AMERICA"S GOT TALENT..John Depew.

Do you like it? Then it's good. Do you not like it? Then it's not good (to you). There, did I cover it all?

It’s a masterpiece, absolutely. That is all that really needs to be said about any master piece. I always get an uncomfortable feeling when people say “this is the greatest of all”.

That album is one of the few albums with No kind of Ego involved. Nobody tries to shine or impress. Just from the heart. Listen to the drums and bass. Totally supportive of the soloists. Its almost as if all the players are in a dream somehow. Just floating. Also so perfectly recorded and mixed. Important is different to different people. It´s a beautiful record.

Good riddance!

Amazing!

Back when it was launched, I was taunted for liking Aladdin Sane by David Bowie. Recently my daughters tease me how I like to re-watch Notting Hill, and music like Coldplay - `Dad music` ;)