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Walking in Unity in Christ (Ephesians 4:1-3)
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Caleb Preaches at Clint First Baptist on 10/27/24 at their annual Roundup service.
Trust the Method and Wisdom of Jesus (Sermon on John 7:6-24)
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Caleb Preaches on John 7:6-24 at Clint First Baptist on 10/20/24
Hunger for the Bread of Life (Sermon on John 6:22-40)
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Hunger for the Bread of Life (Sermon on John 6:22-40)
Jesus Walking on Water (John 6:16-21)
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Caleb is a guest preacher at Clint First Baptist on 9/15/24. For the past few weeks he has been teaching through the gospel of John.
Engage Worldview Academy Testimonies
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Marie Arellano and Rebekah Bishop share about their Engage Worldview Academy experience during the Dr. Jason Lisle Creation conference in 2023.
What is the two story view of truth?
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This is an excerpt from a longer interview with Nancy Pearcey on her new book, the Toxic War on Masculinity. You can watch the full episode here: th-cam.com/video/2R-apkHbmOo/w-d-xo.html
Engage Truth Camp Highlight Video (2024)
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Engage Truth Camp Highlight Video (2024)
The Attack on Identity in our Culture
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Caleb discusses what it means to be made in the image of God ("imago Dei") and the key way that is under attack in our culture now with Charlie Wolcott from Worldview Warriors. For more about Engage Truth Ministries, go to Engagetruth.org For more about Worldview Warriors, go to www.worldviewwarriors.org/ Disclaimer: We do not watch or endorse any of the other shows on Channel 38 or KSCE. If th...
Worldview Formation with Children
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Caleb interviews Annette Vanderzwan on the United with Christ TV show.
Engage students sharing about apologetics & evangelism
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Caleb interviews Ruth and Zeke Arellano, two Engage Worldview Academy students, about their experience in the Academy & the Engage Truth Summer camp. They also share about the importance of evangelism and defending the faith. You can watch future livestreams on that channel: lifechristian.tv/ To sign up for camp and/or our next book raffle, Click here: www.engageapologetics.com/post/engage-trut...
Deconstruction vs Faithfulness
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Caleb & Jason Kerns (Engage Truth Camp Co-director) discuss Deconstruction vs Being Biblically Faithful on the KSCE TV Show, United with Christ (channel 38). You can watch future livestreams on that channel: lifechristian.tv/ To sign up for our book raffle, click here: www.engageapologetics.com/book-raffle?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR18MDD1SGcX2JGtGUhZNiqMymKIzitwk0st-28v68c0wFl5mF5vguopBoQ_aem_...
Engage Camp Featured Topic: Biblical Justice vs Secular Justice (with Monique & Krista!)
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Sign up for camp here: www.engageapologetics.com/post/engage-truth-summer-camp-2024
Engage Summer Camp Promo 2024 (1 min version)
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Sign up for camp here. www.engageapologetics.com/post/engage-truth-summer-camp-2024 Camper registration & staff application is on the link above.
Astronomy Reveals Creation (Dr. Jason Lisle)
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Astronomy Reveals Creation (Dr. Jason Lisle)
Understanding Genesis with Dr. Jason Lisle
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Understanding Genesis with Dr. Jason Lisle
What is the Engage Worldview Academy?
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What is the Engage Worldview Academy?
Engage Truth Ministries Year in Review Slideshow (2023)
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Engage Truth Ministries Year in Review Slideshow (2023)
Critique of Controversy of the Ages (part 1)
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Critique of Controversy of the Ages (part 1)
Zoologist reflects on the explanatory power of the Biblical worldview
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Zoologist reflects on the explanatory power of the Biblical worldview
Stef Heerema on the Flood Model & the Layered Castile Formation
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Stef Heerema on the Flood Model & the Layered Castile Formation
The Toxic War on Masculinity (with Nancy Pearcey)
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The Toxic War on Masculinity (with Nancy Pearcey)
Brief Reflections on the Lake Spillover Theory of the Grand Canyon
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Brief Reflections on the Lake Spillover Theory of the Grand Canyon
Do we have the right books in the Bible?
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Do we have the right books in the Bible?
Space & the Bible Creation Conference Promo (2023
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Space & the Bible Creation Conference Promo (2023
Charlie Wolcott's reflections on ICC 2023
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Charlie Wolcott's reflections on ICC 2023
The sound is whack. I can't watch this :(
@yahuahisking5483 I should play normal on a TV. Sorry, we haven't been able to figure out this sound issue.
1888 A.T.Schofield suggested God and spirits exist in 4th dimensional space. Kaluza Klein Theory shows we can complete the unified field theory if we consider more than 3 spatial dimensions. This is scientific basis for the existence of God as an extradimensional entity. The ark underwent spatial alteration similar to the scifi "Tardis" in "Doctor Who", making it much larger on the inside. The animals easily relocated by the extradimensional entity or its subordinates. The 40 days were actually much longer due to artificially created time dilation. The amount of water the result of dimensional folding and borrowed from other locations. Theoretical physics easily explains the events. In quantum mechanics, the collapse of the wave particle duality in the double slit experiment under observation has yet to have a scientific explanation. There are the typical high school level arguments about "something" interfering, but particles would impact and electromagnetism already creates the wave pattern. Diffraction through the slits has varying explanations and science still hasn't fully explained oddities like Poisson's Spot. But the changing of the quantum nature from wave to particle goes far beyond simple interference. It implies what Max Planck is quoted as saying, "I regard consciousness to be fundamental. I regard matter to be a function of consciousness. " None of which lends itself to athiesm.
Got annoyed at the very first slide. “Claims to be a Christian.” You don’t cast doubts on a man’s faith because you disagree about biology and science.
Where’s the line? If the same guy said, “21 reasons why Christ never rose from the dead.” And these guys questioned his belief, would they be warranted?
@@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 Christ rising from the dead is a fundamental tenant of Christianity. YEC is not. Where to draw the line - ie what is fundamental - has been discussed from the dawn if Christianity. But I feel pretty confident in placing those two beliefs on opposite sides of the line.
@@billcook4768 except, of course, Jesus references Noah’s flood as a genuine historical event. You could say the whole story builds on itself.
@@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 He didn’t say it was a real historical event. He just compared things to it. People do that in speech all the time. We may compare a couple to Romeo and Juliet. Doesn’t mean we think they were real historical figures. One thing we know about Jesus is that he engaged in metaphorical speech. He used parables for teaching. the whole Bible is full of metaphorical and symbolic speech.
@@billcook4768 him speaking in parables does not give evidence for things he references being a parable.
Where can I find Part 2??
We haven't been able to record it yet.
@engagetruth2057 ok thank you for your reply and God Bless
Xzx
I can think of only two possibilities. Either it did come from nothing or it has always existed. Either way seems more likely than the other.
It appears that the universe is probably infinite and timeless. Thus, thus there is no need for a creator and your " nothing" argument is meaningless. Score another one for intelligence.
It is believed Jesus was born around the Feast of the Tabernacles which is September/October. If we go back nine months from here where are we??? And when DOES life begin??? We need to remember how Jesus came into this world. If we stop celebrating Christmas we could stop reading scriptures associated with Christmas. You cannot take away from God's Word!!!
Lots of truth
Thank you!!! I’m grown so weary of fellow Christians thinking themselves more holy because they have chosen to believe falsehoods about Christmas, and thinking their personal convictions need to be ours. I love Christmas. I love celebrating my Savior’s birth!
Noah's floods to come are not rain they will be tidal wave deluges the new moon pulls out & around the planet east to west every 40 years when mercury & venus are in a major conjunction for the 1,000 years it takes the earth's orbits to eclipse the magnetic equator separating our stars fermie cells. The first one will be in 2033. God our father wants that none shall perish & all shall repent and follow his son as their Christ Messiah to have life & life more abundantly.
Love hearing Marcia's testimony and how God is using her!
If that much magma erupted from the mid oceanic ridges as he claims the heat would boil the oceans and kill everything in them. Plate movement and mountain building also generate heat so if you cram 200 million years of heat generation into one year it would melt the earth’s crust. But all this can be swept under the rug if you want to start with the Bible.
We know it never happened... The flood been disproven. And we know noahs ark is a copy of older flood myths.
Lying piece of crap.
Thank you Caleb and Engage Truth for all of the content you are putting out! Especially for the recap of the ICC! May God bless you tremendously! 🙏
Thanks for the feedback and encouragement! I have several more ICC videos I hope to (Lord Willing) release the next couple of weeks as well.
@@engagetruth2057 Awesome! I will be watching them!
Great interview - reading the book and from what I have read so far I highly recommend it.
Well done
if the flood was not going to be the solution and god knew that it would not be the solution why the f... did he kill everyone. all for nothing what a waste of human life. bit of o bum god. short sighted, quick to anger, bit of a waster if you ask me.
The mechanism of Noah's flood: "Goddidit."
So you didn't watch the video or read anything.
@@truthisbeautiful7492 I did. They said 'goddidit'.
@@MrWeezer55 I see you didn't provide any evidence for your assertion. Dismissed
@@truthisbeautiful7492 The evidence is that they say 'Goddidit'. I don't have to provide anything.
@@MrWeezer55 can you give a time stamp? What exactly do you mean? Do you mean that the supernatural judgment of the global flood ultimately came from the Judge? Of course. If you mean that's the end of the explanation, then provide evidence. I think the use of this slogan is intended to be mockery, is that correct? If so, mockery isn't an argument. I hope you are prepared for the coming Judgment when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ. Are you?
The SIMPLE fact that someone wants to REASON AWAY a phenomenon is evidence they have no clue. If you observe anything, for example, ‘a forest of trees’, who would reason those away? The answer is ‘probably someone who destroys’. You will always have to destroy something before you put another thing in its place. That’s okay for a forest to be torn down in order to build a structure, but it’s strange to deny the trees were there first.
2:01:13 yeah doctors normally go through the surgical procedures with their patients weeks or months in advanced. So unless you can show the patient had no prior discussions with her doctor about the procedure, or she had no knowledge of the procedure before hand, then this example is weak.
Klaus Kenneth is a fascinating man who was a high level Tibetan Monk who became Orthodox Christian. He claims they got up to all sorts od demonic stuff! Great interview!
I watched this before on PC, but I encounter sound/audio problems (iPhone). I also read multiple comments to your videos saying the same thing.
Yes we are aware. I have one other solution that may fix it and I'll re post it if so. I'll have to do that after my spring seminary courses end. Thanks for reaching out!
@@engagetruth2057Keep up the great work! God bless!
The fantasies of Mr Noah and the flood that never happened
You have come back to comment here at least 3 times, beginning 2 months ago, then 2 weeks ago, and now 9 days ago. I'm curious about 2 things. #1, why do you bother, since you don't agree, and #2, how are you explaining all the marine life fossils in the centers of continents, far from oceans.
@@chanelgumienski7908 You clearly have not even the basic knowledge of earth science, geology, chemistry, palaeontology. You believe any absurd stories that fit in with your ridiculous book of superstitious primitive man made god stories
Paul- very sad that you'd openly comment that "your kids laugh" at stories like Noah's flood". The day of accountability will come. :(
@@dwightwhitman2781 No they will not only in your fairytale mind will they.
Point 1) I remember quite vividly that many YECs explain the grand canyon directly by the flood. So to me it seems accusing Collins of a strawman attack is more like an ad hominem by you than a fault by Collins. Your main argument, as I understood it, is that lithification can occur rapidly. Okay, conceded, but you failed to show that this rapid process by calcium carbonat cementation is what actually happend in all the layers in the Grand Canyon. Well, it didn´t, and so you made an invalid argument here. Point 2) To tell you, what can and can not happen during a flood is certainly NOT a strawman argument. It is just showing what is physically possible. Deposition of evaporates during a flood is impossible. Period. And the papers shown here are about subsurface deposition on a small scale. You must really have a very low opinion of the intelligence of your audience. Well, thought I would go through all the points, but sorry, guys, if you make already in the first 2 items on the list such fundamental mistakes, things get boring.
Would loved to have seen all the thousands of species of Dinosaur all lined up patiently waiting to enter Mr Noah’s boat, surely God must have stunned them with his magic wand first. And as regards Polar Bears and Penguins how did they get there at the pick up point , and the Kangaroos after the worldwide flood ( never happened ) did they hop the 7,500 miles back to Australia. It’s a funny story though have to give you that, my kids laugh all the time at it
Start at 43 minutes in, he explains that.
Noah would have brought in a pair of baby dinosaurs into the ark which would have occupied very little space. Also It's completely plausible for Penguins and bears in the ark as well. We have evidence that Penguins can travel 1000s of kilometres through the Earth's oceans. And we also evidence of rapid speciation that just takes decades to happen from Darwin's finches, so it is entirely possible for a pair of bears to be in the ark and then rapidly speciate in the post flood scenario spawning polar bears.
@@BhikPersonal You clearly belong in a mental institution, or work in Disney land , completely deluded
@@BhikPersonal, The ark itself was ridiculously impossible so the animal migration problem to the ark is mute.
@@davidgardner863 The ark was not ridiculously impossible. I don't see how it was impossible.
Fairytale time and does this information contain proof that someone called Jesus walked on water , rose from the dead, preformed faith healing etc
Funny that a geologist quotes the Bible for research on the Bible. This alone shows you what a fraud this guy is. Cedarville University is a private Babtist university. That´s the last nail in the coffin. Bye , Dr. Whitmore, you know nothing. Stop telling lies.
And how does CPT deal with the massive amounts of energy generated? Baumgardner and others never explained that.
Your question is invalid considering that the amount of energy generated doesn't pose any real problems. It would be the equivalent of dropping molten metal into a pool of water (which we see in TH-cam channels) where nothing really catastrophic happens.
@@BhikPersonal and yet the rate project said that cpt produces the equivalent of around 500 million years of nuclear decay . They then went on to say that God accelerated decay rates but can’t explain how . So no it doesn’t produce the energy you claim
Now show the physics that the RATE team could not.@@BhikPersonal They admitted to several hundred million years of nuclear decay and then claimed that decay rates were accelerated. I want to see how that is possible
We know that Noah's flood did not happen, we know Noah's flood could not happen. There are so many things wrong with this Bronze age story that make it an impossibility. There is conclusive evidence in various scientific fields that prove a world wide flood impossible.
I'd love to hear this but with the audio fixed up a bit. God bless 😊🙏✝️
Millions of years for rock to harden...? I had a portable basketball goal, black plastic base, full of sand, gravel and rain water harden to rock in less than a decade.
Not allowing comment. First comment got censored.
This comment is not censored. I allow people to post if they disagree, but foul language, insults, constant ad hominems or attacks after warnings and constant red herrings (people that refuse to directly engage with the content in the video above and just post somewhat related points) are not allowed to contine commenting (not sure if you made a comment before that violates those rules- sorry,. As of now, I'm the only one that manages the page and I'm a grad student with two jobs and a family, so I don't have time to answer every post or critique. I'm not sure if you tried to comment before. We will try to address some objections in the comment section in our part 2 video (filming TBD). Either way, thanks for commenting and I hope you will watch the above video in its entirety. People that comment that refuse to watch the video in the OP waste everyone's time in the comment section and don't move the conversation forward. Blessings to you and your family. :)
The fact that this sounds that bad, yet sounds totally fine through my earbuds is freaking me out.
Sorry. I'm not sure why the recording turned out that way.
Google is your friend, and way better than this guy who is supposed to be a geologist? He said geologists do not how dolomite is formed and have thrown their hands in the air. Umm nooo Dolomite is formed by the replacement of the calcite ions by the magnesium ions. Depending upon the ratio of the Mg ions in the crystal lattice they have different names (Figure 1). Modern dolomite formation has been found to occur under anaerobic conditions in supersaturated saline lagoons in Brazil.Sep 18, 2018
Creation scientists (an oxymoron) start with the Bible and close their minds to anything that does not agree with their belief.
There is zero evidence for a global flood from any field of science.
The religion of evolutionism is bad
Wow, so interesting!!!!
Thanks.. not a pangeion so much. Im thinking the basins sank. Thank yall very much
All fiction like Lord of the Rings can make good movie , shame the fantasy story Noah did not
Strange how you guys have to follow these videos just to say something. I have no desire to go to athirst videos and say anything. You can't just point and laugh among yourselves, something inside you bugs you.
@@hollertrotter Not laughing it just amazes what you believe with all the evidence which you dispute yet have none of your own . Sad really
@@paulhaynes3688 Okay so why are you here?
@@hollertrotter Shows your ignorance asking that
@@paulhaynes3688 How? Why flock to videos like this if you don't believe in it. I don't watch science videos telling us how life originated or why the earth is flat.
1:19:03 not just Mars, there are canyons on *Earth* much larger than the Grand Canyon. They’re underwater on the edges of the continents.
The bit about supercritical water and salt deposits was absolutely fascinating.
I’ve done a fair bit of reading on salt since this comment, and while I think that there is evidence pointing towards supercritical water precipitating salt in some regimes it’s not a good explanation for the vast bulk of salt deposits. Rather indications of magmatic origin for salt deposits are strong- the lava lamp shapes, the association with faults, the separation of NaCl from CaSO4 and striated mixing lower in columns, etc.
two words - hydroplate theory. Note how many times the criticism is about too much limestone for the flood to form. Not with HPT. See Brian Nickel's channel, excellent videos
49:51 some coccoliths can live in the darkness, even in the uniformitarian framework this is how they are believed to have survived the dinosaur extinction event. Coccoliths can use osmotrophy to take in nutrients from organic compounds in the water.
Garbled sound.
Here is the podcast version below. try watching it on your TV or laptop or just plug in your headphones or watch the podcast version below. If I can fix the sound issue I'll post it again. open.spotify.com/episode/40RVTLafvyCYjsgh2yS63S?si=tIwTtpA2SKWCSZFwHIAakA&
I posted a comment on this video and the comment is gone. Was it deleted?
I don't remember deleting your comment. I do remember deleting a commenting that was merely insults a few weeks ago and one that didn't interact with the comment above. I don't think that was you, however. People are free to disagree with us but it is our policy that insults and continual comments that refuse to specifically interact with the content will the content in the video, do not stay on. Feel free to repost if it's a respectful comment (either agreeing or disagreeing with us). :)
@@engagetruth2057 What I said was essentially that I think there's a much more compelling case for receding floodwaters forming the Grand Canyon, as it explains the cut through the Kaibab Upwarp, the fractal counter-flow shape of the canyon, the relative lack of sediment at the river delta, etc. I was pretty nonplussed to see the comment vanish afterwards but if you don't recall it I guess I can only shrug :) Thank you for your reply.
Great talk! God bless you, your work, and the work of many bible-believing scientists.
To bad this man lied everything. As we know for a fact that noahs ark didnt exist, and noahs flood never happened. And bible believing scientist... thats a contradiction.
@@themplar "We know for a fact that Noah's ark didn't exist" lol, what?! Also the greatest scientific discoveries were made by Christians. Your statements are nonsensical.
@@vash_thestampede6708, Not only did Noah’s ark not exist, it couldn’t exist. It was totally impossible at many levels.
@@davidgardner863 There is overwhelming independent historical evidence from across the entire world that Noah's flood actually happened.
@@BhikPersonal Give me an example, and not one that is easily explained by eons of plate tectonics and numerous local floods. I suppose you’re going to tell me about flood stories from many places around the world, but there are also ancient civilizations spanning the biblical time line that never had a flood.
Garbled sound. Try to reload the video.
Sorry. We've tried to do that several times with no success. The sound should be perfect if you watch it on your TV, laptop or use headphones. If I can fix it I'll reload it. Blessings. :)
Sound is not working for me either.
It should work if you watch it on your TV or computer or plug in your headphones.
1. The most common date given for the flood is 4400 years ago, right in the middle of the Egyptians first burst of city and temple building, why did they not notice they were under water? 2. To flood the planet to over top the highest mountain you would need about 3 to 4 times the known amount of water in the world, where did all that water come from? 3. After the flood, where did the water go? 4. How did 8 people build a wooden ship bigger than any wooden ship built in modern times when THAT ship was reinforced with steel bracing and still broke up and sank. 5. How did animals with odd diets get to the ark? 6. How did 8 people deal with the needs of 10000 animals on the ark? Each animal had to be fed, watered, exercised and the poop scooped. Working 12 hours a day they would need to deal with over 100 animals per hour. 7. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood. 8. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood. 9. Well according to the Book of Jasher, the wives ARE sisters. Jasher 5: 32-35 "And thou shalt choose for thy sons three maidens, from the daughters of men, and they shall be wives to thy sons. And Noah rose up, and he made the ark, in the place where God had commanded him, and Noah did as God had ordered him. In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded. Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah." If a species undergoes a population bottleneck, the lack of genetic diversity can be seen in the members of that species. NO such bottle neck exists in the overwhelming majority of species. 10. 4400 years is not a long enough time to generate the diversity in the human population to give rise to the different populations of people we see on the planet especially when you consider that effectively the genetic diversity was limited to 4 people, Noah and his wife and Eliakim and his wife. 11. Ken Ham's phony Ark has a million Dollar + heating, ventilation and air conditioning system that ensures that workers and visitors do not suffocate in the building. According to the bible, the original Ark had one window, 18 in square. Sorry people but if Ham's estimate of 1600 species represented by a minimum of 4000 animals, they would have suffocated. 12. There is NO trace of any global flood in the geology of the world. Lots of local and regional floods, yes, but NO global flood. 13. Oh and by the way, for those fools at CMI who think Noah's Flood was a real event, a Tomb has been discovered in Egypt dated to 4400 years ago, about the time of the mythical flood (according to many biblical creationists). This raises several questions. a. If the Tomb was built before the flood, how did it escape being flooded? b. If the Tomb was built after the flood, the Earth's population would have been devistated so who built the tomb? c. Why is this Tomb perfectly in line with Egyptian culture before and after the fairy tale flood? If everybody in Egypt were killed in the flood, the Egyptian culture from before the flood would have been lost. Untouched 4,400-year-old tomb discovered at Saqqara, Egypt National Geographic, PUBLISHED DECEMBER 17, 2018
Did you watch the video above?
@@engagetruth2057 Noah's Ark is a fairy tale, your video of lies will not change that.
@@garywalker447 If you aren't going to interact with the content in the video above, then why are you commenting? Insulting and ad hominems are the textbook definitions of trolls online. Your original post is mainly a red herring to the material above (you are bringing up other issues and not directly responding to the content in the video). I'm not dismissing that those objections aren't worth considering (we may respond to those in a future video) but they are not primarily interacting with the video above and thus are functioning as a red herring and consequently it seems you just want to yell at us and have people hear what you have to say instead of having a serious dialogue about the content above. If you have no intention to watch or interact with the video above, please stop commenting.
@@engagetruth2057 • I enjoyed your geological explanations (and admissions of not having the answers to all problems). An added bonus was your reply to the commenter in this thread, it was a masterful response. It was very helpful and instructional, if you like, ‘An idiot’s guide on how to handle trolling’. That said, to the commenter, I did not call you ‘a troll’ because, as someone made in the image of God I consider you a brother or sister in His family on account of the finished work of Christ Jesus, a belief, I know, that runs contrary to the orthodoxy of ‘Evangelical Christianity’ (which is neither). Gary, if you have not been enlightened to know God as a loving Father you will, at least to some degree, speak and/or act with the mentality of a spiritual orphan. As such, although you may have very sincere questions to ask (and valid insights to share) they can be obscured by the clamour of a heart that needs to be heard. Keep asking questions, but respectfully and in love. Grace and peace to all.
@Shifty Not so messed up that you could slide a global flood into the middle of the time line that wiped out the whole population.