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Uncovering the Shocking Truth About Realistic Roadmaps - Phil Hornby
Season 1 - Episode 2 - Short 3 - Phil Hornby
In the second episode I talk to Phil Hornby (www.linkedin.com/in/philhornby/) my co-host about his views on roadmapping. If you are short on time and interested in the answer to a specific question jump to one of the chapters!
Phil is a technologist who has learned the business side and embraces the role of product management as a bridge between all areas of the business supporting, empowering and providing direction. Providing truly cross-functional leadership. Working with product people and entrepreneurs is both his passion and his strength.
He is also the founder and director of for product people, a provider of training and facilitation. for technology-based product teams and entrepreneurs.
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Should your roadmap include a trash column? - David Pereira
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Season 1 - Episode 50 - David Pereira David Pereira is a product leader with 15 years of experience. He's sharpened his skills by leading diverse teams, from startups to giant corporations. Since 2020, he has openly shared his mistakes, failures, and insights on agile product management, reaching over 10 million readers worldwide. His thought-provoking courses had 15K satisfied students across ...
Does your roadmap need a retro? - Dan Olsen
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Does your roadmap need a retro? - Dan Olsen
Should you talk about the impact when you change your roadmap? - Cliff Gilley
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Should you talk about the impact when you change your roadmap? - Cliff Gilley
The shocking truth about product management tools you won't believe - Michael Morris
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The shocking truth about product management tools you won't believe - Michael Morris
The Shocking Truth About Roadmaps - What You Didn't Know! - Dave Martin
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The Shocking Truth About Roadmaps - What You Didn't Know! - Dave Martin
Should you roadmap your portfolio? - Becky Flint
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Should you roadmap your portfolio? - Becky Flint
Is your roadmap a beautiful mess? - John Cutler
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Is your roadmap a beautiful mess? - John Cutler
The Secret Team-based Business Model Behind New Product Launches - David Bland
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The Secret Team-based Business Model Behind New Product Launches - David Bland
The Shocking Truth About Roadmaps - What You Didn't Know - Nick Black
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The Shocking Truth About Roadmaps - What You Didn't Know - Nick Black
Should your roadmap include a recap? - Elliot Golden
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Should your roadmap include a recap? - Elliot Golden
Product Roadmaps - The Surprising Truth About Their Survival in Reality - James Mayes
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Product Roadmaps - The Surprising Truth About Their Survival in Reality - James Mayes
How long should it take to make your roadmap each month? - Malte Hans Scholz
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How long should it take to make your roadmap each month? - Malte Hans Scholz
What is the roadmap for product management as you scale? - Donna Lichaw
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What is the roadmap for product management as you scale? - Donna Lichaw
The Surprising Origins of the Best Roadmap Format You Never Knew Existed - Janna Bastow
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The Surprising Origins of the Best Roadmap Format You Never Knew Existed - Janna Bastow
Can a roadmap connect the dots to the outcomes your leaders want? - Jeff Gothelf
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Can a roadmap connect the dots to the outcomes your leaders want? - Jeff Gothelf
Should you roadmap your positioning? - April Dunford
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Should you roadmap your positioning? - April Dunford
Discover the Shocking Truth About Product Teams You Never Knew - Marty Cagan
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Discover the Shocking Truth About Product Teams You Never Knew - Marty Cagan
Should you show your roadmap to customers? Especially in PLG? - Leah Tharin
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Should you show your roadmap to customers? Especially in PLG? - Leah Tharin
The Roadmap Mistake That Will Burn You - Don't Make This PM Error! - Francesca Cortesi
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The Roadmap Mistake That Will Burn You - Don't Make This PM Error! - Francesca Cortesi
Is anyone's roadmapping perfect? - Francesca Cortesi
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Is anyone's roadmapping perfect? - Francesca Cortesi
Is a roadmap a plan of record? - Harry Max
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Is a roadmap a plan of record? - Harry Max
Revolutionize Your Product Team Structure for Maximum Efficiency and Autonomy! - Gabrielle Bufrem
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Revolutionize Your Product Team Structure for Maximum Efficiency and Autonomy! - Gabrielle Bufrem
How is making a roadmap like cooking? - Gabrielle Bufrem
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How is making a roadmap like cooking? - Gabrielle Bufrem
Why Group Decisions are a Waste of Time and Resources - Itamar Gilad
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Why Group Decisions are a Waste of Time and Resources - Itamar Gilad
Can you create an Evidence-Guided Roadmap? - Itamar Gilad
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Can you create an Evidence-Guided Roadmap? - Itamar Gilad
Unlocking the Shady Secrets Behind Roadmaps - Martin Röver-Parkes
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Unlocking the Shady Secrets Behind Roadmaps - Martin Röver-Parkes
What do Hardware and Software Roadmaps have in common? - Rob Phaal
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What do Hardware and Software Roadmaps have in common? - Rob Phaal
Should you groom your strategy? - Nacho Bassino
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Should you groom your strategy? - Nacho Bassino
Unlocking the Power of Roadmaps: Redefining Product Management Success - Matt LeMay
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Unlocking the Power of Roadmaps: Redefining Product Management Success - Matt LeMay

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  • @highopay
    @highopay 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just hear him talking "be credible" "make sure there is evidence..." but not a single time how to actually achieve this. And that is the hard part. Of course a roadmap is only valuable when there is enough confidence that the thing is not utter bullshit. With some things that were mentioned, like prototyping, feasability analysis, they can make some projects take twice the time. So is getting started early and learn on the journey more important or research and analyze before to make more accurate roadmaps?

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you do the right thing and it takes longed (it should not take anywhere near 2x!) but you don't waste your time doing the wrong things you will end up making more progress in less time. The urge to just build it is seductive. Often a feasibility prototype is hours (or at most days) of work. It's just a form of discovery. That allows you to take out risk and drive up confidence quickly and cheaply. You phrase it as an either or, do a lot of up front work or get started. We'd argue it is both. Get started. Write down what you think is the right direction of travel, include the uncertainty and discovery in the roadmap. Then do the discovery and refine. After a few short iterations that initial uncertainty is driven down in the short term stuff and you are showing the areas you are understanding further out. Hint: if you put the customer problems on the roadmap they also tend to be pretty stable - the discovery tends to just help you better understand them and through that refine the solution you will deliver to address them.

    • @highopay
      @highopay 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TalkingRoadmaps That's surely an explanation that makes sense on paper or for some teams. I'm working for a company where we develop one huge product with almost 20 teams. There is so many dependencies (yes we are also in the process of untangling them) that every discovery/prototype won't show very clear results quickly. You could argue that this is our fault with having still many remains of a big monolyth but probably the truth for many other "older" companies out there. So there is no way we can proof the concept good enough in a few days to give a seemingly accurate roadmap for a year or two year long project :(

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@highopay you somewhat answer your own questions. The only real way to scale product work is to descale the work, striving to minimise the dependencies. But you also hint at a key point at the end, a roadmap is not a project plan. It's job is not to provide delivery certainty in a proJEct context. Its job is to communicate and align direction of travel in a proDUct context. By asking a roadmap to do too many jobs we make it do them all badly. In a product context our goal is to ship little and often. But that said we also have to consider the domain. In some domains they are complex - which means that the only sensible way to have certainty is to use methods like agile and lean (aka discovery) - most software fits in this. On the other hand some domains are complicated - which means that planning and analysis are the best approach to take - most physical products fall here. The hard part comes when you have a mixture. Neither mean you can't do discovery to rerisk and increase certainty - the question is how far you want to go with that. You likely can't eliminate risk in a couple of days but you can probably take 50+% of it out. I work with old and new companies alike helping them with this sort of thing.

  • @DaurenKurkenov
    @DaurenKurkenov หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would it be possible to add some visual examples?

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps หลายเดือนก่อน

      Visual examples of roadmaps? If so we have a bunch of visual guides in the works so that sort of thing is coming.

  • @WoodyW2k
    @WoodyW2k หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this.

  • @dankelly
    @dankelly หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just say "never give a date". What company has enough people or enough time to do feasibility prototypes for every new thing they work on?

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think it is that simple. It's all about risk. There are times (business reality) that you need to give a date, so you invest in feasibility discovery there. Similalry if feasibility is the biggest risk you should invest in that. Like everything in product "it depends".

    • @richardarussell
      @richardarussell หลายเดือนก่อน

      What company has enough people or enough time NOT to do feasibility prototypes for every new thing they work on? I mean, unless you're working on things for which feasibility isn't a risk at all - but then you wouldn't really have a problem to solve, because you'd be able to predict dates reliably in the first place. Are predicted dates reliable? If so, you don't have feasibility risks, so probably won't get much value from feasibility prototypes. If the predicted dates are unreliable, do the dates matter? If not, your feasibility risks aren't material and so it's not worth having dates or feasibility prototypes - just go ahead and start working and finish when you're done. I hope your business and customers are OK with that! If the predicted dates are unreliable, and this matters, then .... invest in the feasibility prototypes, because you can't afford not to. Which is it?

    • @dankelly
      @dankelly หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TalkingRoadmaps I'll take "it depends". Just like, "when will that new feature be done?" It depends on how many other things I have to work on at the same time and how many quality, experienced people I have to work on them.

  • @teodoragenova1487
    @teodoragenova1487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Justin & Teresa! Thanks for the absolute great episode. I was wondering, can you point out to where I can find the product vision video of Dropbox. I tried TH-cam, but wasn't available, or at least I didn't recognise it. Thanks!

  • @saroshmawani6801
    @saroshmawani6801 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome as always. Thanks for the insightful conversation.

  • @billjenkins1535
    @billjenkins1535 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    April is one of the best podcast interviewees. Knows her stuff and is stoked about it and talking about it.

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was a fun chat circling around positioning, roadmapping and the evolving role of product management and marketing!

  • @timgwallis
    @timgwallis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CEO’s shouldn’t only stay out of the “how”, they should stay out of the “what” as well. The effective use of the C-Suite is co-creating the desired outcomes from the “whats” of the value-delivery teams, along with the intended business impacts of those outcomes.

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not that simple. At time the CEO is one of 2-3 people in the company and so they absolutely get involved with how and what. When the business gets large then absolutely the CEO is best focusing on "why" and the outcomes. That said there is a whole spectrum between those stages with different levels of involvement. Regardless the CEO is likely to want to know what the team is working and the direction they are taking things.

  • @Entrepreneur_in_progress
    @Entrepreneur_in_progress 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The customer advisory board is a very interesting concept, keeping the teams and executives close to customers.

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      CABs are super powerful, you can partner them with User Panels as well to get both the senior and operational views in B2B. They provide lots of insight and engagement.

  • @angstrom1058
    @angstrom1058 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No, I just use nav on my phone. I had an "road atlas" once, with lots of road maps (/sarc)

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Satnav is just a digital roadmap with guidance. The risk is you end up on auto-pilot and paying attention so you take the wrong term. The same thing can happen if you treat your product roadmap that way ;)

  • @DanielWinterstein
    @DanielWinterstein ปีที่แล้ว

    Far too much of this rings true!

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps ปีที่แล้ว

      So true right, roadmapping is hard!

  • @JohntyRay
    @JohntyRay ปีที่แล้ว

    Great discussion , I think C in RICE should be statistical confidence

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed the discussion! Statistical confidence would be a focus on Quant, it's important, but you can't always quantify things. Product is messy and often depends on Qual. I love Amazon's attitude of data supported by anecdotes for making decisions, and if the anecdotes disagree with the data trust them instead, then I go looking for new data! @ItamarGilad has an approach to confidence that I like, he tends to just use ICE instead of RICE but his way of getting a confidence number is powerful. CHeck it out here: itamargilad.com/the-tool-that-will-help-you-choose-better-product-ideas/

  • @svetlanadeyneka9498
    @svetlanadeyneka9498 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks it was very interesting

  • @shellers163
    @shellers163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it just me or is there no sound to this?

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no sound on the sketchcotes - they were an experiment that we did and couldn't decide what audio to add to them! They are a summary of the previous episode.

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps ปีที่แล้ว

      On the other hand if we started doing them again… what sort of sound would you want / expect on this sort of content?

    • @shellers163
      @shellers163 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TalkingRoadmaps I would like some commentary on the major points. Firstly, I'd like to see (and hear) the roadmap, first!! The structure of what you are going to say - it gives viewers a reason to keep watching - honestly I didn't watch it all the first time round. Essentially the Orange Rectangles - I would add Benefits to the major points and maybe reformat the last orange rectangles to be subheading rather than headings. After the roadmap is clear - then you can fill in the details. Also - align the title with the content. The title is "Focus on the highest risk" - it appears in the first speech bubble 5 times - but then we have to wait until right at the end to see the word risk - it almost seems an after thought not the main content. Just thoughts - I hope they are helpful. Happy to have a call and describe in more detail. Best Wishes. Keith

    • @TalkingRoadmaps
      @TalkingRoadmaps ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shellers163 thanks for your feedback, we'll keep it in mind if we start doing the sketchnotes again.

  • @WoodyW2k
    @WoodyW2k ปีที่แล้ว

    Huge congratulations on your book launch, Daniel. We loved having you on the channel and hearing your thoughts about innovation in the B2B space and the first 10 customer map. 👏🏻

  • @TalkingRoadmaps
    @TalkingRoadmaps ปีที่แล้ว

    And his Product Management IoT course here... courses.danielelizalde.com/p/the-iot-pm

  • @TalkingRoadmaps
    @TalkingRoadmaps ปีที่แล้ว

    If you fancy a sneak peak then grab a free chapter here... b2binnovator.com/

  • @TalkingRoadmaps
    @TalkingRoadmaps ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out Daniel's book here... geni.us/TheB2BInnovatorsMap