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If forced between the following choice, what would you choose: Your family, or your faith and membership in your church? Expanding this, it wouldn't only be choosing the church over your family, it would be choosing it over the ability to ever have a family, or any intimate relationship with someone you love and who loves you. If you would not choose to abandon your family or the hope of ever having one in favour of the church, why do you feel it's justified to require others to do so?

So happy for you all. From the little island of New Zealand. 🤗🤗😁

My son was born gay. He was boorn homosexual. He is loved by his father in heaven as much as is every child of god. Your use of the scripture s ard your own private interpretation. I will support my son should he decide to marry a man. You are talking about someone that you have not experienced. You can sound s understanding as you like but ultimately you have no understanding of this matter.. stick to what you know.

Good Job brother. Beautiful explanation of the Plan of God.

Thank you so much, brother, for sharing 🙏 ❤️

Thank you for sharing!

So sweet!!!😊

Thankyou for sharing, that was very helpful information🙏🙏🙏

I wish you well and hope it will be helpful to the Irish saints and our/your neighbours.

This is such a beautiful lesson for me about temple. Thank you so much

Spot on.

Thank you for sharing!

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You forgot to mention the word of wisdom, if you believe it was a true revelation from God, was given NOT by commandment or constraint (D&C 89:2) yet members think it's an actual commandment from God. It was also never meant to be a constraint to enter the temple and was always meant simply as "words of wisdom", like health advice. Also, you keep expanding the definition and intent of the word of wisdom based on personal bias. No where does it discuss the 'addiction' side of substances or even caffeine. The word of wisdom doesn't mention tea and coffee at all, which were so common and prevalent during that time. If Joseph Smith meant to include coffee and tea, he would have done so. Instead, he only mentioned "hot drinks" so now you have members misinterpreting what he meant by hot drinks. I know members who won't even eat hot soup because they think it's against the word of wisdom. If you truly want to know where the word of wisdom came from, study the Graham Diet Movement by Sylvester Graham. Joseph Smith literally plagiarized and cherry-picked ideas from the Graham diet, which was a popular diet fad during the time and location of Joseph Smith. It would be like a prophet writing down the Adkins diet when it was so popular and then members following that diet for hundreds of years because they falsely believe it was a "commandment". The word of wisdom is NOT a commandment, he literally wrote the opposite in verse 2 and made it crystal clear. Joseph Smith continued to drink coffee, tea, and even alcohol after he wrote the word of wisdom. They drank ALOT of wine in the temple so it clearly was never meant to be a commandment. When I'm asked the same question from non-members "why can't mormons drink coffee?", I tell them the truth. Because a prophet after JS died completely misunderstood what was meant by "hot drinks" in the word of wisdom and avoiding hot drinks was a health fad at that time in the early 19th century. The early saints did not follow the word of wisdom.

I cried when I heard the news. I am so overjoyed for you all.

How do we become worthy?

Not drinking coffee you say is unique to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints??? Sorry, but you haven't done your homework! The Adventists also practice the same dietary/health restriction (of course, they DID get on that bandwagon a while after we of the LDS faith did, but it's NOT unique to us!)

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Actually, many early Church Fathers taught the Mother of God was without sin, full of grace even before baptism, which removes sin! As the ark of the Lord was created a pure dwelling place for the Most High, all the more Mary, the Mother of the Lord! !As a Catholic Christian, enjoyed this video thank you! God's grace and peace to you always!

Soda is unheathy drink.

I drink both tea and coffee in moderate amounts and I am heathy. I agree if people drink 3-6 or 7 cups of black coffee will harm our health.

When Robert was in my Sunday School class in Tralee, he rarely attended but when he did he never participated.never tried to engage in an way with the class. Considering he is so vocal now and loves to share his knowledge i find that strange.

Hot drinks cause oral cancer. Coffee and tea are typically served 20 to 30 degrees hotter than other drinks and much hotter than soups.

I'm really enjoying your videos. One thing I feel is important to mention is that we cannot follow the commandments under our own power. We need the Holy Ghost to help and to guide us in this. To try and follow the commandments on our own is a huge burden. We need the power of the Holy Spirit to die to self and live for God. We are transformed and perfected in Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Ghost. The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience … (Gal 5:22) If by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. (Rom 8:14) Walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. (Gal 5:16) If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. (Gal 54:25) Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? (Gal 3:3) For behold, again I say unto you that if ye will enter in by the way, and receive the Holy Ghost, it will show unto you all things what ye should do. (2 Nephi 32:5) For, said he, I have repented of my sins, and have been redeemed of the Lord; behold I am born of the Spirit. And the Lord said unto me: Marvel not that all mankind, yea, men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, must be born again; yea, born of God, changed from their carnal and fallen state, to a state of righteousness, being redeemed of God, becoming his sons and daughters; (Mosiah 27:24-25)

Is herbal tea also not allowed?

This is an excellent topic!! ❤❤❤

Such a soothing voice ❤ great content as well

The actual text of the word of wisdom discredits the rules around specifically coffee and tea. I think coffee and tea are a policy interpretation and are not spiritually dangerous. Our processed food is 100% more dangerous than coffee and tea. Many Members of the church are disgustingly fat but claim they live the word of wisdom.

Sorry, the Exodus is just not historical. It is not until the iron age (1000 BCE) when the bible starts to contains historical events. Everthing before (and including) the bronze age collapse, is not historical (the conquest, exodus, abraham, tower of babel, the flood, the garden of eden, etc). These stories were developed during or shortly after the Exile.

I love your humility. Good video. D&C Section 89 is not a commandment and does not mention coffee or tea. Verse 17 allows the consumption of mild drinks made of barley and other grains. This is beer. In 1841 Joseph Smith wrote in his journal about a man preaching temperance in the extreme. Joseph rebuked the idea, calling it pharisaical, hypocritical and not edifying. Obviously, Joseph had no intention of making the word of wisdom a commandment. He was against it. Also, Jesus drank wine. We cannot therefore say we are living a higher law. On the contrary, surely we are living a lower law. I love the church, I love the leaders of the church and I see their good intentions. However, I'm concerned that the rigid 1921 policy is overbearing and accusatory. I agree, we should not be addicted to anything but making it a strict commandment perhaps has negative consequences. The church should teach correct principles and then allow us to govern ourselves.

Interesting note of trivia: In 1965, the First Presidency (including David O. McKay) signed letters approving the consumption of Decaf Coffee. "For your information please be advised that the drinking of a beverage made from the coffee bean, from which the caffeine and deleterious drugs have been removed, is not a violation of the Word of Wisdom...". These letters were never read over the pulpit as they were only sent in response to questions sent to Salt Lake, but they did approve of the redistribution of this information.

1) when it comes to drinking or eating. Moderation in all things. Too much or too little of something is not good. 2) we should be eating or drinking things that are good for us. Coffee and tea, regardless of what people think coffee is actually not good for us, just like Soda, kool-aid, or other high sugar drinks. Coffee is clinically not healthy and too much coffee can cause hyper activity, loss of focus, a sudden crash in productivity when you stop drinking it. 3) Eat that which is in season or what can be grown or preserved properly out of season. 4) just because it's not listed, doesn't mean it's okay and just because a leader of the church does something doesn't mean it's okay to do. They are men after all and are subject to sin as much as everybody else. Justification is a great path to hell, but it doesn't mean that not following this to the letter of the law will put you there. What will put you there is the willingness to disobey the laws of God regardless as to what you think is okay or not. 5) you aren't going to get a list of what is okay and what is not okay, because he who is commanded in all things is an Unwise and Slothful servant. As far as that destructive angel is concerned - one of the leading causes of death and illnesses is due to unhealthy eating practices. You want to survive a pandemic better, eat healthy. You want to get over a sickness quicker, eat healthy. You want to perform better, eat healthy. But that's not only just eating healthy, but working out. You don't have to go into extreme weight lifting and looking like those body builders isn't necessarily healthy

The reason lds prohibited coffee was due to the regional, cultural baggage of coffee at that time. It was consumed in social settings like taverns where people also drank alcohol, and the temperance movement was gaining steam in the United Stated which sought to bring about teetotalism. Coffee was seen as associated with sin and vice. Thus coffee, a fairly innocuous beverage, and certainly productive to consume, was prohibited.

Herbal tea naturally has no caffeine. Decaf versions of naturally caffeinated teas are available. Decaf coffee is available. The antioxidants in both tea and coffee have been shown to have positive effects on our health. Interestingly though did this command not come from the command to avoid "hot drinks"? I'm curious why no scripture from the word of wisdom was used that specifically spoke of tea and coffee. Why is hot chocolate fine but herbal tea is not? D and C 89:9 "And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly."

An additional point that I wanted to respond to is your assertion - that 'without commandments and the morality that comes from commandments' human beings are no more than animals or insects who would kill and steal. I'm curious, do you think that without commandments you personally would begin killing and stealing? What about your wife, your parents, grandparents and children? When I think of people in my life - I have associated with good people who haven't had a belief in God and who haven't lived by commandments. My friend Utpal was the most generous person I ever met. Roy worked with me at Tesco when I was 18 and was a gentle giant - he lived peacefully. A client of mine had served time in prison and had a complex life - but I always felt safe in his presence. When we said goodbye - he held my hands, looked at me with such tenderness and said 'thank you'. I felt so much pure love. Another client who lived with so much chaos (and was a young single mother) had such a profound love for her son. These friends and acquaintances wanted to live morally, kindly and peacefully - not because God told them to - but because they wanted to. We can look to Humanism and Atheist Ethics for some understanding as to why. Here's a link to a short clip from the film 'After Life' to highlight this idea: th-cam.com/video/aB01BL0jVe8/w-d-xo.html

But, three years later to be inside Kirtland Temple, and twelve years later, be crossing frozen rivers and hardships we cant imagine, some were healthier than before because they held the Word of Wisdom ... a little bit

Then those same wives and mother's gasped in horrors when the Word of Wisdom continued, " ... and hot drinks are not for the belly."

Women sustained the first part of the Word of Wisdom gladly

Can't? How about "choose not to" 😉

What's the wisdom of the word ? Stay away from things that hurt when you have to quit ... (like money ?") Temporal salvation is more than healthy bodies ... what things are generationally unhealthy. Three years before the Temple of Kirkland, the Word of Wisdom. We were taught how to use tobacco to treat bikes of snakes or spiders or stings of bees and wasps. We were taught about what to wash our bodies. This was common knowledge of our native American neigjbors.

Only a fool wants to drink a scalding anything, broth, soup or saki ...

Excellent. The word of wisdom is meant to be a statement of guidance, not by commandment or constraint. With regards to Coffee and Tea.. no such restriction is mentioned, It says' Hot Drinks'.. Hot drinks would include 'Hot water". and there is wisdom in this.. The CDC even came out in the past 10 years or so , saying exactly that .. that we should avoid 'Hot drinks'.. The reason is that the "HOT" of the drink is carcinogenic. It fires up the body's inflammation response and that leads to esophageal cancer. Where this part of the Word of Wisdom became associated with Tea and Coffee, is part of the Churches historical 'Culture'.. and not any thing specific to doctrine. But kudos' this this content author's explanation of the over arching meaning of the WoW.. If there is anything substance in your life that is beginning to control you, or is detrimental to your health.. that should be avoided. Whether it's Coffee, Tea, Mountain Dew. or any caffeinated and addictive drinks.. or Burgers and fried food , or sugar laden processed foods. As for changes in the WoW.. I don't think there needs to be changes in the WoW.. but how it's interpreted by the Church could use an adjustment. Typically it's been used as a code of Prohibition with in the church. Prohibiting Coffee, Tea, Wine, Alcohol and Tobacco etc. But the text it self doesn't forbid all these things. And like mentioned above it doesn't mention Coffee and Tea, but instead HOT Drinks, and it should be noted that Hot drinks in Joseph Smiths day , would have included "Hot Chocolate'.. Chocolate houses were a big thing in the early 1800's . Wine and Beer for instance is not forbidden, but is to be used with caution. Hard drinks , typically interpreted as Hard Alcohol is forbidden. Yet the total prohibition of all alcohol , wine and beer included, occurred when the nation went into "Prohibition'.. So the church followed suit, and when the country came out of prohibition, the church remained with a prohibition stance on alcohol. And the justification for the prohibition has been a creative interpretation of the Word of Wisdom, and that's where I think there needs to be an adjustment. It should be viewed in the spirit and intent that the code was given originally.. and not prohibition. for instance, obedience to the WoW is not whether or not you have a glass of wine or cup of coffee, but whether or not the substances are controlling you? Equal consideration should be given to things like excessive consumption of meat.. or processed sugar foods. If someone is refraining from all alcohol but is consuming vast quantities of Mountain Dew and heading quarter pounders every day.. maybe they aren't abiding by the WoW.. but again, not by command or constraint.

Great explanation! Thanks!

Can’t is the wrong word to use. we can if we don’t care about a temple recommend or following the words of wisdom.

Thank you! Beautifully described.

I know the whole premise was to answer the coffee question....but could it not also include sugar? Food and drink in the 1800s are extremely different than the foods and drinks available to us today. Sugar and sweeteners and chemicals in our food are harming us. Is someone who doesn't drink coffee or teas but eats only highly processed sugary foods and is overweight and unhealthy, living the word of wisdom?? I believe we have focused a little too much on clarifying the drink aspect that we have overlooked the counsel to eat Healthy foods, to get adequite excersice, to sleep in a healthy pattern( not too little or too much) are all parts of this Word of Wisdom. Too many people focus on need to be specific when instructed by the Lord. There are too many ways we can be deceived and enslaved for God to specify a list in its entirety. Generalities are good because the world changes. We have an opportunity to focus on what you have taught....a principle of not only health but protection and blessing. We are led by the spirit to live the principle, not to focus on debating semantics.

"Cant" is a misnomer. Of course we can do anything the rest of the world does. "Dont" is more accurate . We CAN do anything, but we DONT because we were told not to. Our faith drives these things and the blessings we get far outweigh doing such things. We have the choice either way though.

President Nelson clarified, tea and coffee still prohibited

Read the revelation. It refers to hot drinks. In the early 1800s that was interpreted to be tea and coffee, not even iced. The reason we don't drink the stuff is because they say don't do it so we dont.

Hi Cameron, I wasn't going to comment on any more 😅 but then I just listened to this particular video. I had a lot of thoughts as I was listening. I'm curious about these various studies you were referring to throughout your video. To make such bold claims and absolute statements about the outcomes of children from various households - can you bring receipts? Can you share links to these studies? You have every right to your personal opinion. But to claim that 'studies prove' your opinion requires some due diligence. Also it was quite a claim to say that the current western society is the best society to ever exist 😮. I'm curious what you base this on and your process in reaching this conclusion? Your examples of broken commandments/breakdown of morality are predictable but miss so much understanding of nuance, complexity and lived experience. For example, 'porn addiction' while spoken about in the church is not classified as an addiction in the DSM-5 (the 'bible' for psychologists). There is no such thing as porn addiction outside of the church. Esther Perel a leading expert in relationships holds space where porn can enhance sexual relationships...and keep couples thriving. In many ways porn causes more problems in LDS relationships where it is demonised. Where do children thrive? In safe and loving enviroments - can we be open to the various beautiful family configurations that offer love and safety? Why do people drink heavily or take drugs - well usually to numb the pain of child abuse and other complex traumas. Substance abuse is a symptom of suffering and an act of survival and not a 'choice' to be demonised. (I worked as a psychotherapist at a homeless hostel and have listened to many stories first hand). I can see you trying to keep things straight forward and clear. But Christ stood for and sought out the individuals who were found in the complex spaces. Surely to represent and honour Christ we need expand and deepen our visions. Have you ever read 'The universal Christ' by Richard Roar? This book is a great resource for reflexion...😊