วีดีโอ

SF6 is the first in the series I've ever been interested in , certainly the first I've ever purchased. So I'm totally new to the series. I HATE the modern controls. It might as well be only one button that does a random move. How can you possibly learn the game if a button press gives you random moves? Frustratingly, going online for the first time, I'm constantly matched with modern control players who can pull off special after special and supers with no effort at all.

Modern controls was a great! I just started playing sf, I never played before and was close to just drop it. It was a great way to get noobs in and slowly learn the inputs and maybe switch to classic after having some fundamentals it would be easier

lily zangief ken guile maybe akuma are the best modern users got to master with gief on it and no classic inputs I don't agree with the damage reduction because of how limited ur options are which does matter some characters have to give up some of there best buttons or even there only overhead for example blanka or good burn meter pokes marisa and gief.

Real

Nice video

Modern trash.

I think its so funny that people automatically look at that M and think "oh ima win this one" until they dont. Then modern is trash 😂😂😂😂😂

(Spends entire match being extremely predictable and not knowing ranges of attacks) Some dipshit: FUCKING MODERN CONTROLS ARE EASY MODE

26:34 What them is this?

I wasn’t great at fighting games when sf6 came out like I could only do fireballs and tatsus at best. Playing on modern as well as a few classic games like the mvc games and jojos really helped me get better at fighting games. I play Chun and Akuma at platinum online but I didn’t realize people hated modern that bad. So I got more motivated to play classic. Chun felt right for me on modern and I didn’t feel confident swapping to classic Akuma on platinum. I felt accomplished with modern it helped me learn fundies and get better at fighting games overall skill wise rather than just thinking special moves and crazy combos solve your problems. One thing I liked doing on modern was adding onto modern combos like I found 2 ways to do raging demon mid combo and expand chuns combos even further. Classic is helping rn. Before Akuma I had modern Ken who’s gold 3 star rn. I didn’t take him to platinum as I want to use Ken on classic but to prepare for this I’m playing Ryu on classic ranked 1st till gold to use Ken again on ranked. Some characters I would prefer to use on modern and some on classic. I play a lot of modern and old school fighters and I know a lot of people won’t respect me cuz I play some characters on modern but modern alone motivated me even more for classic and I still use it to this day as it makes some characters like Chun better for me. She just feels so much better to play on modern. For classic I’m getting there. So as someone who is a mix of both. I’d say modern is fine. You don’t really see it competitively that often anyways and it’s not as brain dead as I thought the more I went in depth on it.

17:42 new.player here, last game was SF4/USF4AE. My thing about Drive Reversals is that in the tutorial it is advertised as a sort of retaliation to onslaught or a way to push somone into a wall, but they also say you can react to this with your own in the case of a wall or timing the opponent very well. I noticed that opponents use this and straight up react easily to it with their own to go second to DR you back, like I thought the window was stricter but its really not. So even if I am using it to try and stop someone from offense, it usually just backfires for me right now because theyll just do it right back even in moments I feel like they shouldn't, like after Drive Rushing towards me (the green aura thing??) and starting to use moves I am blocking. No matter what for me right now as a new player, I have resorted to straight defense and getting away from the corner. Or I will try and catch a jump in attack/follow up only to be met with the initial jump in then them reacting with their own Drive. The second scenario I can kind of understand, but the first is driving me crazy right now. 😢

I kinda hated playing against Modern players until I switched to xbox for a while, the controller on it has a very weird dpad that is virtually impossible to do QC motions bc I have huge hands. I switched to modern and realized how skill based it is, the damage penalty for auto combos is also a huge factor when you're using them and you see your opponent's health barely take a dent after a well placed combo. I switched back to playing on PC(also back to Classic) and, with the new mindset, I actually started noticing how many more M players(on my level, Gold-Platinum) have great fundamentals when compared to C players. I feel that a lot of classic players lab away for dozens of hours to pull off crazy long combos but neglect how to play live, whereas Modern players tend to adapt better for some odd reason.

Modern apologist are just as bad as those that use the control scheme 🥱

Great video, just starting out with a street fighter and this video was great, i use classic but i wanted to understand why people don't just use modern control... 20% its a lot!

Good video mane u should make more like these

As some one who tryed to teach people fighting games this is way better for geting more people into fighting games, teach they HOW to play (like when to anti air, zoning and other thing) then switch to normal mode and learn the buttons and imputs

I spit laughing when MEMPHIS popped up haha! You deserve so many more subscribers!

My take is that modern is great in that it brings people in to the game, it’s relative effective and requires some skill. However my issues are two fold 1) as a long time player, and this is a personal thing, but playing against modern players isn’t As fun. It’s not that I can’t beat them, I can it’s just the game itself is less fun. I feel like I go from play street fighter 6, to patient fighter 6. As a classic player because of the speed of those supers and specials, you start to play really conservatively, things like burnout pressure and DI becomes ineffective because of that 1 button level 1. It’s not bad, it’s just different and to me personally it’s not as fun. The second is more general. I worry that what modern gives you is so good at an early level where people are jumping and whiffing all the time that it becomes a crutch and modern players aren’t learning the actual ins and outs of the game in the same way we do organically. I’ve played lots of modern players in diamond and master who clearly didn’t even know what a shimmy was.

Solid content fam

it's just kinda pointless i guess. not just talking about modern but all the input changes over the past 20 years. 3s dumbed down input leniency from CPS2. SF4 did it from 3rd strike, 5 removed links and killed combo execution and 6 added modern... but none of it was needed. a normal person can master special moves in a CPS2 era game in like a few days. execution is to a fighting game the same way aiming is to an FPS. and if CS players can sit and grind spray control all day yet the FGC gets spooked at having to do a clean DP motion. it just looks bad. i don't play 6. i played it at launch and got 3 characters to master. and said the game wasn't for me. i hated drive. that's all i needed to know. but if you can't do basic special inputs. i just assume you don't actually play fighting games. because it's the type of thing that i have taught friends to do literally within a few days. who have no interest in playing the game outside of a super basic level. modern isn't this super scrubby feature like people claim. but it's just kinda pointless.

That modern controller should never ever be in sf6 in the first place why classic controller should have it hard doing specials and super while modern should press one button that's cheap and cheating so as I said before modern controller is for damn lazy people who want game too damn easy and don't have a brain in their head like they using a damn touchscreen screen controller that's for phone and never ever should be on PS4/PS5 controller because they don't need to have reactions just press one button smhh so again I don't respect NO!!!! Modern player controller.

Modern controller is for lazy ass people who don't really wanna learn the game and want it easy like mortal Kombat 3 with Kool stuff and koller stuff etc with one button finishing and 2 button special I don't respect NO modern controller player .

My opinion about Modern is - it’s the same format as some anime fighting games. No one is complaining so why are there complaints on SF6? At the end of the day, it’s up to the player who decides whether or not they will be good at the character

i use modern, it;s great

as a modern player i try to use all the classic inputs i can use for damage and only take the advantages of modern inputs for reactions when im in burnout or anti airs. That's just a way to play ppl should take it easy... great video btw

I like modern because the M tilts them before the game even starts

why does luke have feet sounds

Hella underrated video.

Great conclusion "modern players are just another hurdle for you to jump over" well said. Dont freak out over nothing guys. if modern was truly OP we would see all the top tournament players use it.

Im a modern player. i just liked the control scheme and i stuck with it. currently have 4 chars on master using modern. And i swear to god- sometimes i think one of the bigger benefits of using modern is that ur opponent is thinking about it. I rarely use the special buttons and most of the time play like i would with classic since i dont want the dmg reduction. But i still get away with shit i feel like i never get away with when im on classic 😂 and the amount of people who rage quit when im on modern compared to classic is just so funny. If you have some procentage of troll in your body i highly recommend modern.

clearly, modern controls is modeled after blade strangers

ok, that's cool, i think I'll stay subscribed and see where it goes!

Losing moves because you picked Simple Controls? Why? It all fits there idk why we're still doing the same dumb bullshit from 1996.

The random clips was really funny lol.

banger vid

Bing jumpscare

Nice no need internet Thank u man from phillipines

this is maybe just a big pet peeve of mine but if you’re saying a word that ends in est, for example “easiest”, you don’t say “most-“ in front of it. You wouldn’t ever say “this is the most easiest to explain”. That’s totally improper. I dont know i hope i don’t sound like a dick but like i hear it so often in TH-cam videos where people are reading off scripts and everything is recorded so it’s like… there’s really no reason improper grammar and english should be making it into a video. sorry 😅

While I think its ok overall in terms of accessibility and getting more casual people into the genre, getting hit by a modern controls combos feels so bad every time because you know it takes significantly less skill. I wish they gave modern control users more incentive to learn classic controls without just outright nerfing MC compared to CC. I also think it’s probably gonna stunt a lot of people’s ability to try out any of the past games which stinks because the older games are still great. It also might hurt people’s ability to go into other fighters, that aren’t like dbfz. Its gonna take a lot of work to break that kind of mashing instinct both fighterz and modern controls in SF6 drill into new players.

Yes it is . Play Mario

YES! I recently downloaded the sf4 mobile and was like "wait... this is the modern control system"

While I think it's cool that SF6 added modern controls, I can see they have a lot of problems. I thought of my own modern style of controls that hopefully fixes some things. First off, there are only two buttons for normal attacks, one for punch and one for kick, and depending on which direction you hold you get a different strength of attack like neutral gets you lights, back gets you mediums and forward gets you heavys. Then there are two special buttons for punch and kick specials, and of course the direction dictates what special you get. Pressing either punch and special punch or kick and special kick together lets you do EX specials, and to do supers you use a simple motion input like quarter-circle forward. I don't know how much these changes help but this is just something I thought of. Let me know what you think.

Pretty good video all in all. I would polish up your voiceover in a few small ways (although if you don't have a dedicated way like a closet in order to record in I fully understand) and the same for your script. (like how you can still get the other strength of special moves on modern if you do the input yourself, compared to some air and grounded normals being *completely* absent) I do think a few aspects of your editing could also stand a better representation next time you do a video like this such as at 1:40 and showing different move inputs looking cluttered, but in spite this you're already putting more effort into it than most youtubers that do plain voiceovers over gameplay, and for that I'm glad you exist. More people could stand to get into cool editing but its way too often a rarity. I want to know as I'm currently also striving towards cool editing, how do you do some of the fancier stuff like the green screened character models moving around, is it just digging deep into numerous tutorials online? And what software do you use?

😴😴😴

Great Video Man.......make more (this isnt a request)

For players like my with a physical disability modern is a huge deal. My condition impacts my left hand and anything more than quarter-circles makes my hand spasm up and in SFIV that meant i was limited to charge characters. In SFV when Ed and Falke came out i was so happy i could finally use a character's whole moveset even if the characters themselves were not my taste. And now in SF6 i can finally play Zangief and use his SPD even better i can play every character in the game and focus on footsies/mindgames without worrying about my hand. I understand why people get frustrated but modern controls are the reason that people like me can finally enjoy SF to the fullest.

I don't play Ryu, but I though the alternate special move strengths can still be input by motion controls even on modern settings. Is Ryu an exception? I should just not make this comment until I can go home and check myself...

The editing is awesome btw!

I used to sink so many hours on SF4 on my phone it was crazy how satisfying landing those combos felt !