วีดีโอ

Great Song!!!

Thank you for a beautiful, thought provoking talk

Thankyou😊😊

Acts 17:30 - 31: In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

Merry Christmas to you to have a great Christmas

Thank you Kyle a wonderful message

Paul is a deceiver who teaches a different gospel. Being gay is spoken about in the Old Testament.

I met ellie mumford about 5 times. I've never forgotten her. A very lovely lady. Also John Mumford. Glory to God Almighty 🙏

The bible is a man made book with man made wisdom (Kain and Abel) and man made errors : + light wasn't there before the sun + the earth wasn't there before the sun + Adam and Eve didn't exist + insects have six legs not four legs + the value of Pi isn't 3 + homosexuality is not a seduction by a satan, but a natural born healthy sexual orientation with an evolutionary sense + the "firmament" is not a solid "roof" over the world + the moon doesn't produce visible light + etc etc If the bible would be the word of god or inspired by god it would be without errors, but it isn't. As easy as that.

My recent life has been a challenge due to health concerns. I appreciate the topic as I have been struggling with my life being limited. Accepting it has been my struggle. That is difficulty.

Thank you. I have been a Christian since I was 8. Today, I am so glad I heard you. I needed to hear that Christ is in the midst of what's happening in my life.

Thank you for sharing. Opening up about your personal struggles is a vulnerable place to go. ❤

Cool vid

Love the question what is the kingdom of God. Thank you for sharing scripture too. The kingdom of heaven is within. Amen. Very good sermon. Thank you.

Thank you. I have found so much in your service. It has given me a new look at the savior after a lot of years. I share your broadcast with my sister as well.

A great reminder to continue healing and deliverance in its broadest sense, thank you

Really appreciate this series and have shared it .

Absolutely loved this and am sharing it with my life group in Cape Town. Well done and thank you Claire x

You should do audio books

Nice job

I don't care what Saul/Paul said about it. Jesus didn't say a thing about it. By the way, Saul/Paul went from persecuting Christians before his "conversion" to continuing to persecute Christians after it. Saul/Paul is just another human with an opinion (on too many things I think). His opinions are no more noble or Christian than mine.

The last argument of what Paul might think of a modern consensual same sex relationship is almost not able to be discerned. Paul and the Roman Empire as you said, had little to no examples of these relationships. They may have existed rarely but as you said. They would probably be frowned upon by even the male population committing pedastry and rape. Consensual sexual relationships were far less of a norm in that culture. So to be sure it can only be speculated what Paul might think of the modern. But the fact remains that same sex marriage is a newer concept and also consensual same sex relationships have always happened. I'm sure Paul would not be in favor of putting same sex attracted people to death. Nor victims of abuse. It's obvious that Paul gave a damn about people in general.

All this is TOTALLY different from gays and gay marriage today. Many gays today do NOT practice anal sex. They are called sides. After Paul had listed many sins in Romans 1, he says if you have committed any one of these sins then the whole point of his argument was was Rom 2:1 "You therefore have no excuse you who pass judgement on someone else...." I was a Baptist Pastor and overseas missionary and I am gay, medically proven during electronic shock therapy organized by a Dr who was President of the Baptist Church at that time. Happy to explain. I am not sexually active but I was told I was not welcome to even attend a Baptist Church, just because I am gay (and a side). I have now left the church. God creates some people gay and it is perfectly normal. God has also created some of over 1500 animal species gay. Did God make a HUGE mistake? Of course not.

We have to be always growing in understanding of complex issues

He may have had latent tendencies but did not like the idea of putting his penis in a fecal exit canal. Feces is disgusting to many people and even a latent homo might puke at the thought.

Remember Kindness 💜💙♥️

Thank you for your wisdom & understanding of scripture. This kind of knowledge comes to you by the Holy Spirt. Thank you for sharing it with us you’re an intelligent Man ✝️🏳️‍🌈✝️🌈✝️⭐️♥️🇺🇸

Thank you for your excellent explanation of old dispensation verbiage. As for today 2. Loving kind and caring respectful men who are committed to a compassionate consenting intimate union is OK with God God says in his word How Lovely it is when brothers Love each other ✝️🌈✝️🏳️‍🌈✝️⭐️✝️💜✝️👍✝️♥️

It is unlikely that Paul was ever privy to the intimate sexual exchanges between a man and a woman, much less between two men or two women. More likely is it that he was referring to public displays of sexuality he may have come upon in the fora and back-streets of the major cities he was wont of the visit, displays which may have offended his provincial Jewish sensibilities and which he, in his ignorance, interpreted as “men inflamed in their passions for one another”.

Really a wonderful sermon! I have struggled with Romans. Thank you for such a thought provoking part of scripture. I have found some dear people i know living by the rules.

Time,space, and Jesus wow beautiful

Romans 2 tells us not to judge and that we will be condemned for doing so which is the point of Romans 1. But Conservative Christians don't read that Chapter. They are focused on being the sin police for what they believe is sinful and no humility whatsoever that they could possibly be wrong.

Paul was a misogynists and liar, he never even met Jesus. Even James the brother of Jesus and Peter distanced themselves from him. Follow the true teachings of Jesus and not the words of the evil that is Paul, who was fooled by the devil. It was the devil who met him and not Jesus. The true Gospels were not put in the Bible and hidden by the church. The only true one is James and the churches lied about his relationship to Jesus and his other brothers and sisters. The truth will set you free.🇬🇧

In the past being gay would have had huge health problems and no medications. So live it up, for tomorrow you die.

As all gay people, I was born gay; it was not a choice, just as straight people do not choose to be straight. As such, homosexuality is not a sin. We are all children of god with a piece of god within us. Therefore, the sin is hating others, including gays.

This is too good! #NAME? *Promo sm*!

Thank you for this video. I think the great error in the ages about homosexuality is that it has been associated with sexual excess solely. Sexual orientation and the reality of it has never been discussed or mentioned. Deeply loving and monogamous long term relationships happen between two people of the same the sex all over the world all the time. These individuals are not attracted at all to the opposite sex. They are gay by birth. And yet, because of a warped interpretation of scripture, natural sexual orientation towards the same sex is seen as sexual depravity. As the video discusses, many heterosexual men (it happened in greco roman times and it still happens today) might have sex with another man who is sexually passive (or not sexually passive) for different reasons and that doesn't compromise his masculinity, but you see this case of homosexuality is different from someone who is truly gay. The case of the heterosexual man having sex with men is a case of sexual excess, in my eyes. Sexual excess can distract a person from their spiritual life whether they are gay or straight. Being gay is not a case of sexual excess. Sure, heterosexuals and gays all have the same human tendency to fall into lust but just having a sexual orientation by birth towards the same sex does not make a person sexually depraved . That is what needs to be understood by all Christians and the world at large!

It is certainly correct that our phenomenon of “homosexuality” did not exist in the ancient world, anywhere on the globe. That is the overwhelming consensus of scholars of the history of sexuality working across a whole array of disciplines. Nothing Paul or any ancient person or text said can legitimately be claimed to address or have in mind or apply to our “homosexuality” and LGBTs. All of it was uttered, written, and formulated without the slightest conception or awareness of phenomena such as ours. Indeed, the bulk of the transitional period from an ancient to a modern construction of sexuality would come only millennia later, roughly 1600 to 1800 CE, though the transition wouldn’t be complete in the modern industrialized world until well into the 20th century. During that transitional period, as in early attempts to look back across the divide, and during encounters between people from different parts of the world, great confusion reigned. People found it extraordinarily difficult to understand a different construction of sexuality, or even that they were encountering such. The early ethnographic literature is replete with tales of utter sexual incomprehension. Paul can no more address our phenomena than Anacreon or Plato can. And though, in unbridled fits of reader-response criticism, some modern readers can enjoy reading some Anacreon, the ancient Greek poet would have been as horrified by our “homosexuality” as modern LGBTs would be were they to conduct themselves by Anacreon’s assumed sexual code. However, the portrait you paint of ancient pederasty is a stilted, one-sided, cartoonish caricature that would make just about any classicist or historian of ancient sexuality laugh in your face. You really need to read some ancient pederastic poetry. Start with _Greek Anthology_ 12, the so-called “musa puerilis.” Then move on to the pederastic poetry of Anacreon, Bacchylides, Callimachus, Catullus (Iuventus poems), Horace ( _Carm._ 4.1 ), Ibycus, Theocritus (among the _Idylls_ ), Theognis, Tibullus (3.11), and Vergil ( _Ecl._ 2 ). You may also wish to stop getting your information from inexpert and never entirely accurate biblical scholars, none of whom are recognized experts on the history of sexuality. Read the expert secondary literature directly. You can start with the articles “homosexuality, male” and “homosexuality, female” in _The Oxford Classical Dictionary_ (online ed.), and the sources cited therein. You can then get a more global approach from the following: Aldrich, Robert, ed. _Gay Life and Culture: A World History._ New York: Universe Publishing, 2006. Edsall, Nicholas C. _Toward Stonewall: Homosexuality and Society in the Modern Western World._ Charlottesville, VA: University of Virginia Press, 2003.

Wasn’t Jesus gay? I know the priests at my church are.

Test Paul as a true apostle

Personally I would not worry too much about what Paul wrote. The source of his inspiration was mostly imaginary and then presented in the context of Bronze Age ignorance and prejudice. Are you concerned about what Muhammad said or Joseph Smith or countless others. Would you have been if you were bought up in a different family or culture. I admire your sincerity though. Good luck.

I think that it is difficult to see Romans 1 in the way in which you describe it. I'm not sure if there are early Christian teachers who commented on Paul's letter to the Romans, but it would be helpful to hear their interpretations of this chapter. I, for one, am a "red-letter" Christian, so I consider Paul's teaching to be nothing more than opinion and feel that his opinion of homosexuality is simply wrong. It was wrong then and it is wrong today.

Is he justifying homosexuality?

Homosexuality IS condemned by GOD in the bible in both the new and old testament scriptures multiple times. God created marriage to be one man with one woman. Sodom and Gomorrah come to mind. We are pretty much there now.

To get the truth, see videos and writings of scholar, Dr. Robert A. J. Gagnon, who is the leading expert on the Bible and homosexulity. All of the attempts you find on the internet to downplay Paul's condematio of homosexuality in general are not true and twisting of the words for particular agendas.

I’m sure that’s why we are so close to a nook ww3 with Russia and China, to cleanse the world just as sodom and Gomorrah were cleansed and the people that condoned that lifestyle like the author of this video

It wasn’t just Paul’s writings and let us not forget about sodom and Gomorrah! Leviticus 18:22 - Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. Leviticus 20:13 - If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. Romans 1:24-27 - Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. I Corinthians 6:9 - Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men. 1 Timothy 1:10 - For the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers - and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine

Why would God of righteousness and good condone homosexuality? I believe God will destroy civilization for three things..GREED..SELF-LOVE..AND . PERVERSION....as he did SODOM AND GOMORRAH ...

The deeper facts have nothing to do with male or female, no jew or gentile ect.........flesh and blood one mind does all good and evil by ONE power the boss of all imagination's that was before creation is the oldest facts called God in all life.

listening to your definition and interpretation of Scripture is definitely not what Paul wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost. You quote extrabiblical sources and forces it into Scripture to fit your doctrine. Jehovah (Exodus 6:3 KJV) instituted marriage between one man and one woman till death do them part (Genesis 1:27; 2:24; Romans 7:2-3; 1 Corinthians 7:39; Matthew 19:6; Mark 10:9; etc. KJV). You must understand that even the Jews (Israel) transgressed their LAW and continually gone a whoring after the gods of Babylon Egypt etc. and do the same abominable acts as they did. This is the reason GOD destroyed the world with the deluge because of the abominations for homosexuality, lesbianism, paedophilia, spectrophilia, bestiality, fornication, adultery, idolatry, etc. was abounding (Genesis 6-9 KJV). As for Sodom and Gomorrah was another example of the wrath of on homosexuals who even went as far as to want to rape the men which was angels who lodged in Lot’s house… (Genesis 18-19 KJV). In Scripture it is not just the obvious that is an abomination in the sight of GOD as the lgbtq2z narrative but also fornication and adultery is sin which will lead the practitioner to hell. Note the warning of Paul in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 King James Version 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. You cannot claim :11 if you are still practicing or in agreement or be entertained by those who practice :9-10. The warning in Romans 1-2 KJV for GOD will hand you over to a reprobate mind… Heed the warning to the church in Revelation 2-3; 20:10-15; 21:7-8; etc. KJV. Since the ascension of the LORD Jesus Christ grievous wolfs entered into the ecclesia not sparing the flock but devour them with traditions and doctrines of man and devils. Look what the lgbtq2z did they perverted the rainbow and used it to their own destruction for this world is set for the destruction by fire... (2 Peter 3:7-13; Revelation 19:11-21:5 KJV) … Thus, if you are practicing any of these abominable acts or are entertained by it or are in agreement with those who do it you are in agreement with their folly and will be under the same condemnation according to the Scriptures. You cannot reason it away or change the Scriptures to suit your doctrine for the Word of GOD is set forever in Heaven and man cannot change it. Man tried it for millennia now and did not succeed; we see today more than 38.000 non and denominational religious institutional organisations who congregates in one or more of the 46+ million theatres aka ‘churches’ reading from one or more of the 900+modern bibles which is not the word of GOD but perversions and is constantly revised to conform to the apostate church! GOD is not the GOD of confusion and His word is not of private interpretation… Paul was not confused in what he wrote in Romans 1:24-32 King James Version 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Paul was referring to gays and lesbians but even more than that… You need to repent of your twisting of the Scriptures to force them into your doctrine for you will stand before the Holy and Righteous LORD and Savior Jesus Christ who will be the JUDGE of the world giving account and since you call yourself a teacher know this your judgment will trickster James 3:1 King James Version 1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. Matthew 12:31-37 King James Version 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. 33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.