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Cornell Abortion Debate: Jonathan Peeters and Stephanie Gray
Is abortion moral? Should it remain legal?
This debate was an opportunity to hear an exchange of ideas between speakers with wildly different perspectives on this question. It was followed by a Q&A with the audience.
Debate speakers:
Jonathan Peeters, for abortion
Stephanie Gray, against abortion
Sponsoring organizations:
The Cornell University College Republicans
Debate in Science and Health: Cornell University
Ithaca College Feminists United
Ithaca College Republicans
Ithaca College Students for Life
No Labels at Cornell University
Veritas Forum at Cornell
About the speakers:
Jonathan Peeters graduated with a B.S. in applied mathematics in 2000. He briefly pursued a doctoral degree in mathematics before realizing that his heart was really in philosophy. He received his doctorate in philosophy from the University of Colorado, Boulder in 2008. He has taught at University of Colorado, Boulder; the University of Washington, Seattle; and Ithaca College. He is passionate about introducing students to the arguments and methodology of contemporary analytic philosophy. His research has focused on the Early Modern period, especially on the notions of space and divisibility of Descartes, Leibniz, and Newton.
Stephanie is a seasoned international speaker who began presenting at the age of 18. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science from the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, and a Certification, with Distinction, in Health Care Ethics, from the National Catholic Bioethics Center in Philadelphia. Stephanie is Faculty at Blackstone Legal Fellowship where she trains law students from around the world about conversing persuasively on abortion. She has given over 800 pro-life presentations across North America as well as in the United Kingdom, Ireland, Austria, Latvia, Guatemala, and Costa Rica. She has spoken at many post-secondary institutions such as Yale University, George Washington University, the University of California, Berkeley, and the University of Sussex in England. In 2017, Stephanie was a presenter for the series "Talks at Google," speaking on abortion at Google headquarters in Mountain View, California.
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  • @heartofalegend
    @heartofalegend หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard a good question that also gets to the heart of this. "How do we feel about pregnant women who do meth, knowing they're pregnant?" Obviously, we say that's wrong, but why? If it's her body, what's the problem?

  • @mashah1085
    @mashah1085 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep in mind, Stephanie Gray has openly said that, if a woman needs an abortion to save her life, she should "just accept death". That's how radical and extreme she is.

  • @quakers200
    @quakers200 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whatever that mass of cells is I find it hard to defend it as a human being deserving the protection of society. It has been found that one in five fertilized eggs do not even adhere to the woman's womb. If all these zygotes have souls then heaven must be full of these little whatever's and God, the designer of reproduction, did a poor job of protecting these little souls. Looking at the fate of newborn children through the ages shows a great deal of infant mortality, death during childbirth, natural abortion, starvation, disease etc. if God cares deeply about the fetus, it sure does not show up in human design. If all these souls are in heaven that did not live long enough to take a breath heaven will be a strange place in deed. This is not the answer to the abortion debate but it needs to be part of the conversation.

  • @Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics
    @Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics ปีที่แล้ว

    She straight up _executed_ him with the "Mommy, don't" closing statement.

  • @nickhancock5584
    @nickhancock5584 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stephanie obliterated this dude.

  • @SK-ou4gt
    @SK-ou4gt ปีที่แล้ว

    the hateful cu** has to depend on gore for her point.

  • @kml2546
    @kml2546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a debate between Stephanie and mama dr jones

  • @AdamMCrawford
    @AdamMCrawford 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If she is pro-life then why did she murder this guy in this debate?

  • @mickellbrown3
    @mickellbrown3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I am really trying to understand is he made a good point where how we identify individuals in conjoined twins is their separate brains and consciousness. Let’s say we had two sets of conjoined twins formed very similarly. In one both have a brain and consciousness. In the other only one does and the other does not have a brain or consciousness. Let’s also say that this brainless twin is also being kept alive by the other twins body for the sake of argument. Is this twin without a brain considered a person and or has rights because by Stephanie’s argument, being human is where are right are grounded, but this would also include dead people and non viable pregnancies. For the dead, they are protected by law but the rights they have are different so one could argue that a preborn babies rights are also different. And there’s more I could say even. Please I welcome a discussion because I need help with this.

    • @mickellbrown3
      @mickellbrown3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The thought I had is that one will be viable at some point while the other will not. But they both are still human so it needs more explanation than simply being human. Human growing? Human progressing? Human alive? The conjoined twin and also technically alive so idk.

  • @candidthinker1638
    @candidthinker1638 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched many debates of Mme. Gray Connors : This part usually come at some point - th-cam.com/video/Fk5x1fifxrM/w-d-xo.html. IMO, when she describe the laparoscopic surgical procedure, she is describing a form of abortion. However, she cannot say it (based on her stance on abortion). To compare, the Abortion Pill(s) doesn't target the embryo (if we had the technology, ones could save it...). First, Mifepristone (1st pill) blocks your body’s own progesterone, stopping the pregnancy from growing (Pregnancy needs a hormone called progesterone to grow normally). The second medicine, misoprostol, causes cramping and bleeding to empty your uterus. This method doesn't target the embryo, but Mme Gray Connors distinguish it from the ectopic pregnancy procedure (for no logical reason).

  • @paulajames6149
    @paulajames6149 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have watched many debates on abortion and the pro choice is never compelling. They usually get slaughtered by the pro life. In my opinion.

  • @VictorialuvsGod
    @VictorialuvsGod 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She creamed him!

  • @leftmikerightmike
    @leftmikerightmike 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sure this was very interesting for those who could actually hear it

  • @ryanperry3811
    @ryanperry3811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unprotected sex doesn't mean you're taking on having a fetus inside you? Bro whaaaaat??? I seriously advise you guys don't try to eat or drink anything while listening to this dude 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jimbojackson4045
    @jimbojackson4045 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:02:57 She ends this man's whole career.

  • @kgunthorpe
    @kgunthorpe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pro-lifers (especially those who think the woman "smoked" the guy) who believe that life begins at conception, please answer the following hypothetical: "You're in a fertility clinic. Why isn't important. The fire alarm goes off. You run for the exit. As you run down this hallway, you hear a child screaming from behind a door. You throw open the door and find a five-year-old child crying for help. They're in one corner of the room. In the other corner, you spot a frozen container labeled "1000 Viable Human Embryos." The smoke is rising. You start to choke. You know you can grab one or the other, but not both before you succumb to smoke inhalation and die, saving no one. Do you A) save the child, or B) save the thousand embryos? There is no "C." "C" means you all die." The answer is? ____

    • @Roheline9
      @Roheline9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a fantastic prompt. I do acknowledge that life begins at conception. I agree with the overturning of Roe bc I am for state rights. However, I think the abortion pill should be available everywhere, I realize it won’t be and that is inconsistent with my ideology, but i am okay with the abortion pill despite being more pro life. Therefore, I would save the child over the embryos. I would like to position a better prompt. You can either save millions of babies from having their skull crushed, brain sucked from of its remnants, and limbs pulled from their mothers bits; or you could save one 13yo boy. Which would you save?

    • @Miguel_77
      @Miguel_77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/kF15yDriJVU/w-d-xo.html

  • @busterfan721
    @busterfan721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if any of these pro-abortion supporters who claim fetuses/zygotes are not human for whatever reason realize they are making the argument: to have human rights one must be human-plus? This would essentially build the argument for all kinds of discrimination which includes discriminating and removing the humanity of minority populations.

    • @roar44879
      @roar44879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, I didn't watch this, so I am not sure if you are referring to the video, but the pro choice or "pro abortion" side as you say is about bodily autonomy. There is literally no other scenario where we force someone to stay attached to another for the purposes of keeping them alive. Even corpses have bodily autonomy, which is why you can't use organs of a dead person even if it will keep someone else alive, unless they are a registered organ donor. Also, in case you didn't know, pregnancy is NOT a health neutral condition.

    • @kml2546
      @kml2546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roar44879 so she addressed this by saying that your organs like you heart, your lungs, pancreas, liver etc.. are in your body for your body, your uterus is in your body for your offspring.

    • @roar44879
      @roar44879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kml2546 adressed this? Please be a little clearer since I don't know what "this" is supposed to stand for.

    • @kml2546
      @kml2546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roar44879 sorry, was referring to the organ donation comment. Stephanie addressed why it's not OK to force someone to donate organs but have to use the your uterus to keep a baby alive.

  • @lastnamefirstname8843
    @lastnamefirstname8843 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If a person starts a house fire, knowing that there’s a chance a baby is upstairs, and doesn’t save the life of that child- they will be charged with criminal negligent homicide. Why is it different when the baby is smaller?

  • @frederickedeh8664
    @frederickedeh8664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am in no way a scholar but common sense tells that the man’s argument is flawed. Let’s say a driver gets into an accident due to his or her negligence. The other affected driver now hospitalized, needs a “born marrow” to survive. For some reason the negligent driver happens to be only match for the born marrow. Can the government force the negligent driver to give a born marrow for the survival of the other driver ? I think yes. In the case of abortions, the woman is the negligent driver and the baby is the hospitalized driver. The baby is in that position because of the negligence of the woman to prevent her pregnancy when she’s not ready for a child. Therefore the mother is obliged to lend that baby her womb for 9months in order to survive

    • @cfar1969
      @cfar1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting you think the govt could force this bc it’s unconstitutional. Has never happened. But if pro life ppl were consistent that fetus is human being and human beings have equal rights to fetus then the law should be this. I have a right to others helping me to live. Right to helping me in medical emergency whether others want to or not. Be consistent

    • @jacobgraf7284
      @jacobgraf7284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cfar1969 The difference is that my bone marrow's purpose is for my body while a woman's uterus' purpose is for her offspring. It is biologically ordinary for a fetus to live in a uterus, but it is extraordinary for me to give my bone marrow to someone else because it wasn't designed for that other person.

  • @jvlp2046
    @jvlp2046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    God gave mankind the "gift of FREEWILL" that comes (back to back) with God's Law/Commandments (one can not exist without the other)... One of the Commandments is "thou shall not KILL."... the word "KILL" is a more appropriate correct word than "MURDER"... why?... because a "Self-Infliction" is not a murder but a "Suicide."... Murder by definition, is the infliction of another party or other individual person... God tells us that regardless of guilty or not, self-defense or not, enemies or friends, etc... we (mankind) must not KILL our own kind (humans), and only God has the right to KILL, for God is the "Giver and Taker of Lives" of all His creations. But due to the STUBBORNNESS of Mankind, God gave Moses another set of Laws/Commandments, other than the 10 commandments, this time, it was more detailed and more on Human Relationships like "DIVORCE, MASTER & SLAVES, etc." and how to govern the Nation of the Jews/Israel (God's chosen people) that is pleasing in the Sight of God... With this other set of Laws/Commandments given to Moses by God, I could not find any detailed Laws/Commandments regarding the KILLING prohibitions of "UNBORN CHILDREN"... but the killing prohibition for the "BORN CHILDREN" (Babies/Infants) was clearly given... In those early days, the only way they can kill the "UNBORN CHILD" was by killing the pregnant woman... and as time goes by, they found some medicinal plants/herbs that can abort the pregnancy and were only allowed to be used if there is a danger in the life of the pregnant women... God can even order/instruct Israel to "WIPE-OUT / ANNIHILATION" (total destruction/obliteration) of any clan, society, or nation as God's "PUNISHMENT" including babies/infants, children, and pregnant women (with unborn children),... For Example.. when God ordered/instructed King Saul to eliminate/wipe out the entire AMALEKITES, King Saul spared their King, and God got so mad/angry that God gave his kingship to a shepherd boy named David... If somebody out there could find a CLEARER passage/verses in the O.T. or N.T. regarding the Killing prohibition of the "UNBORN CHILDREN," please let me know... thanks

  • @jvlp2046
    @jvlp2046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Christ Jesus said, "Woe (burden/sorrow) to that man,... it is better for a man if he had not been born (unborn child) than to betray the Son of God (Christ Jesus)" (Matt. 26:24 / Mark 14:21 paraphrased)... In other words, it is better for that Man, to be killed in the womb of a woman (abortion) than to be born and betray Jesus... Is this literal or a figure of speech?... or perhaps both?...

  • @jvlp2046
    @jvlp2046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a Christians, but I was wondering... If GOD Almighty gave the Human Kind the gift of 'FREEWILL" to choose between Good and Bad (Evil)... Why not give WOMEN their "FREEWILL" to Choose?... Who are we (humans) to deny anyone of their gift of FREEWILL from God? ... Anyway, God will judge us all in the end... right? My only concern is... why will the government give "financial support" (millions of dollars) for "Freedom to Choose" (Pro-Abortion movement) but not other Basic Human Freedom... such as the Freedom of Speech, Assembly, Freedom of Religion, Freedom to Bear/Carry Firearms, etc.?

    • @waynechen852
      @waynechen852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, individuals can use their free will to do evil, but the legal system (and ideally the cultural norm/ societal pressure) would guide individual behavior and reduce the perpetration of evil. Therefore since abortion is akin to murder it should be legally punishable as such, as both violate The Lord's command.

  • @jvlp2046
    @jvlp2046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only for People who believe in God the Creator of visible and invisible... 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 /paraphrased, "Our (Physical) bodies are not our OWN, Jesus bought us with His OWN blood, so we must glorify God thru our Body and Spirit/Soul, which are HIS."... Therefore, since our bodies are not our "OWN," we can not put TATTOOS, PIERCING, DO SELF INFLICTION, SUICIDE, DO DRUG/ ALCOHOL/CIGAR ABUSES, ABORTION, INDECENT SEX (PORNO & MASTURBATION), SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, CHANGE GENDER/TRANSGENDER, ETC...

  • @mikewhelan9561
    @mikewhelan9561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    a pot head with a phone could make a better video

  • @kathyyodertreat
    @kathyyodertreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please remember this: "YOU still have the SAME heart that began beating in your mother's womb" ~Houston Kat

    • @candidthinker1638
      @candidthinker1638 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if you don't? Perhaps, in situation as Heart transplant.

  • @thefaithfulone1947
    @thefaithfulone1947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    th-cam.com/video/tZAc8PQVlYo/w-d-xo.html Prolife song 🎵

  • @Lili-Benovent
    @Lili-Benovent 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Women are going to have abortions regardless of what the agents of that imaginary control freak Christian God say, it's their own body and they have the right to choose whether they go through with pregnancy and childbirth or not. It wasn't until the 1970s that women had access to safe, sterile and professional terminations, prior to that it was a choice between an unwanted pregnancy, for whatever reason, or a visit to a back alley amateur butcher at an enormous cost, not just money wise but also health and sometimes life wise. Now these sanctimonious, self righteous God botherers want us to return to that scenario, imagine if it was your daughter or close friend who through ignorance or error became pregnant and felt that they were not ready to face childbirth and all it encompasses for the next twenty years of their life, would you force childbirth on them, would you want the State to force childbirth on them, would you make terminations unavailable in a clinic, or would you force them to make a decision to have the termination in some quacks back room? It's our bodies and our right to have a clean, professional, proper procedure if that's what we choose and your Jesus in the sky has nothing to do with it.

  • @austineilagan4533
    @austineilagan4533 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jonathan Peeters: "I dont think the anti-abortionist can satisfy both of those jobs" Stephanie Gray: "Hold my beer"

  • @sararistow6137
    @sararistow6137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought she was pro-life, but she clearly murdered that man.

  • @jimmymelonseed4068
    @jimmymelonseed4068 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My guy ditched his argument real quick in the XE

  • @neuronneuron3645
    @neuronneuron3645 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The debate should come with some legal consequences. She should be arguing in front of a state or federal court for the fate of the unborn. The pro-choice movement can present their best advocate and the judge/s can settle the matter.

  • @robertalust5466
    @robertalust5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m pro choice…or I guess pro legal abortion I wouldn’t say it’s moral, but safe legal abortion should be available for those who choose to.. It’s not something I could choose personally, but I can’t make that choice for others, I don’t know their situation, and poverty, lack of support, trauma, sexual assault, incest, and health concerns are very valid reasons why I could see a person making that choice. Therefore I could never fault or judge a person on that choice…. It’s unfortunate his debate style is not as effective as hers…

    • @travisjohnson7065
      @travisjohnson7065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're admitting it's not moral, what specifically is immoral about it?

    • @robertalust5466
      @robertalust5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisjohnson7065 And I hope you ask this in good faith But I think abortion is immoral or unethical b/c when life begins is a philosophical question that I believe begins at conception.. I would not be able to end the life of my child if I found myself to be pregnant.. However it is not my place to impose my morality on to others…and without proper support women are forced to make that choice….because society does my help many… So I’m saying abortion is unethical but I can see why the desperate, the sick, the poor, and abused would need it…but they wouldn’t if there was help for them Currently there is not What I’m saying is I emphasize and understand both sides..

    • @travisjohnson7065
      @travisjohnson7065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertalust5466 A couple issues. First, it's not a philosophical question, and in fact, it is not a question at all. We know the answer. It's a fact of basic biology that life begins at conception. If you can cite a single biologist who denies this, I'd love to know. And not only biology, but also common sense. The sperm and egg are living cells. Why would two individually living gamete cells come together in reproduction to create non-living offspring, which eventually becomes living at some arbitrary later time? So it goes from life, to non-life, and then eventually life again? And also, why are there countless signs of life we can clearly observe in the womb? Why is a supposedly non-living organism growing and developing within about 24 hours of conception? Why is a supposedly non-living organism multiplying its cells, increasing in complexity according to its own DNA, absorbing nutrients and oxygen, converting nutrients into energy through metabolism, and so on? We need to stop pretending that any of this is even debatable. It's an irrefutable fact that there is life in the womb of a pregnant woman, and for anyone to ever suggest otherwise is incredibly idiotic. So much so that even many pro-choice advocates have abandoned this pathetic attempt at an argument. Second, think about what you're saying about morality. You would not be able to end the life of your child, but you think you can't impose that onto others. So basically what you're saying is, you can't tell other people not to kill their children. Think about that. So you see another parent killing their child, and you feel like you have no right to stop them? Lastly, there is help for them. If a mother in need asked you for help, what would you do?

    • @robertalust5466
      @robertalust5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisjohnson7065 agree with biology 100% And yes if one or two ppl asked me for help I could to a degree but I couldn’t help dozens or hundreds And I couldn’t help with everything a mother needs to give birth and or if she decides to raise it.. Your biological argument is fantastic And I could definitely help a few mothers financially… But I can’t help her with mental health concerns, physical health concerns, trauma.. Nutrition ect…a supportive system of people And even the financial help maternity clothes, pre natal fitness, birthing plans Having a baby is expensive… If we want everyone who ever gets pregnant to have to child then we need the support systems for all..

    • @robertalust5466
      @robertalust5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@travisjohnson7065 and just to be clear are you suggesting mothers in need go asking strangers for help? Could you imagine doing that if you were in that position..? Do you really think other people would help? .. Most people are bogged with their own issues and struggles.. I think we can agree on a lot here But the fact is the system is broken and there’s a lot of women who get pregnant that feel they have no choice because they have no help.

  • @u0455294
    @u0455294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could probably make better arguments for slavery than the bone marrow analogy.

  • @mondobear22
    @mondobear22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I keep looking for an abortion debate between two serious thinkers making an effort to seek an ethical conclusion. First, a serious abortion debate would be restricted to first trimester abortion. Each side would be required to talk for at least ten minutes on 1) body autonomy rights, 2) sentience, 3) consequences to women 4) why or why isn't the human species to be protected in non-sentient form in the womb, at great cost to women; while it's acceptable to torture and kill all other species for money, entertainment, etc.? Mainly, keep the debate focused only on first trimester since 97% of abortions take place then. Also, the fetus is non-sentient; also, the method of abortion is different then; also, the psychological experience will be much different than a later abortion. The prejudice towards non-humans needs to be addressed, specifically, how can an argument be deemed reasonable when it's merely whimsical favoritism?

  • @mikebalderston2723
    @mikebalderston2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peeters definitely presented the most coherent and effective argument from PC side. It's just too bad that he seemed unprepared for the cross-examination. Some of the question from Gray asking for supposed logical consistency had better answers than the ones that were given.

  • @ATageH
    @ATageH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, Stephanie Gray is a god next to this guy. She completely destroyed him.

  • @chrisarmon1002
    @chrisarmon1002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when another pro choicer gets exposed of their illogical, inconsistency’s. Lastly their irrational behaviors

  • @jimbojackson4045
    @jimbojackson4045 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:05:37 Speakers' introductions 0:06:48 Gray's opening statement 0:21:47 Peeters's opening statement 0:34:24 Gray crosses Peeters 0:39:51 Peeters crosses Gray 0:45:50 Gray's rebuttal 0:54:18 Peeters's rebuttal 1:02:57 Gray's closing statement 1:06:30 Peeters's closing statement 1:10:55 Q&A

  • @CristianaCatólica
    @CristianaCatólica 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    LIFE IS SACRED FROM CONCEPTION TO ITS NATURAL END... GOD BLESS HIS ONE AND ONLY CATHOLIC CHURCH

  • @dylanrunner2001
    @dylanrunner2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He looks like they picked him up at their local starbucks 😂

  • @MeowyMakes
    @MeowyMakes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pro-choice "feminists": "This is a war on women! Men need to stop telling us woman what to do!" Pro-life woman: *roasts a pro-choice man at a debate* But sure, go on with how being pro-life is "anti-woman" or "anti-feminist."

    • @jenniferstark7116
      @jenniferstark7116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      this!!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @robertedwards909
      @robertedwards909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to stop telling dog owners what to do

  • @marieconstantia4441
    @marieconstantia4441 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I see these picture my first reaction is that I want to vomit. My second is a thought: anyone who thinks this is ok is a savage. Ultimately, abortion is a grave sin of pride. “I will be like God”.

  • @Kitiwake
    @Kitiwake 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rape and "crisis" pregnancy. There's a long standing legislative maxim: "Hard cases make bad law."

  • @miltonwetherbee5489
    @miltonwetherbee5489 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To the twinning argument. Let's say before the split you have one zygote, which is a person. At some point during that 14 day time that zygote splits into two. When it splits, neither is the original or both are (which view you take of those two isn't important), and at that point both become two separate persons. Each one will develop uniquely from that point, but neither was first. If we had transporters like in Star Trek, and if you have a transporter malfunction that brings back two copies of the same person, both of them would have been the same until that point, but at that point neither came first and both become unique individuals despite having the same DNA. The point of saying all this is to point out that while twinning may be the only real life example of one person becoming two unique people, it doesn't mean that prior to that point the embryo wasn't human, alive, or a person, and thus the argument he's making isn't actually a legitimate argument.

    • @bseaingu
      @bseaingu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw a theory that there are two sacks inside one ovum, like a double yolk egg so both are fertilized at the same time and though from the same ovum were always individual.

  • @margiesheehan3646
    @margiesheehan3646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are

  • @marniacoyo556
    @marniacoyo556 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This did need to stfu with his protohuman shit lmao

  • @iericnierman
    @iericnierman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stephanies logic could hardly be tested by an educated person. This dude should have stayed at home with his mom... who didn’t abort him.

  • @stevehubler3024
    @stevehubler3024 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    God bless Stephanie Gray for standing up for the rights of the unborn! Her arguments are powerful, moral, ethical, and fueled by the Holy Spirit!

  • @tgere79
    @tgere79 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    th-cam.com/video/Fk5x1fifxrM/w-d-xo.htmlm00s "I doubt that mere species membership is enough to give right to life." I'm not a legal expert, but I'm pretty sure that in the United States, "mere species membership" does in fact give one a right to life. Specifically, the 14th amendment addresses the right to life for those with"membership" in the human species.

  • @elmithosmaldonado43
    @elmithosmaldonado43 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stephanie quite “dismembered” that young boring dude 😏. See what I did there? As empty and bad a joke as that guys arguments 🤓.