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Tarokan Nor
Germany
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2020
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A swift Tailor
At this point AI is stupid, so I just let it do the picture and made the music myself
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When You Hate The Music But You Love The Music
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Eternal Life (perfect alarm clock piece)
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Eternal Life (perfect alarm clock piece)
The Difference Between A Musician And An Entertainer
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The Difference Between A Musician And An Entertainer
Schubert can break your heart and heal it at the same time
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Schubert can break your heart and heal it at the same time
The best piano sonata exposition ever composed for 11 hours
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The best piano sonata exposition ever composed for 11 hours
normal human being tries to play rachmaninov prelude (Op. 23, Nr. 5, g minor)
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normal human being tries to play rachmaninov prelude (Op. 23, Nr. 5, g minor)
normal human being tries to play Rachmaninov prelude (Op. 3, Nr. 2, c sharp minor)
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normal human being tries to play Rachmaninov prelude (Op. 3, Nr. 2, c sharp minor)
FRANZ SCHUBERT Waltz In B Minor (Orchestrated)
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FRANZ SCHUBERT Waltz In B Minor (Orchestrated)
Two very talented musicians. Just close your eyes... and trust your ears!
Kissin was masterful, about perfect. Lang Lang was ethereal.
calling anyone who can play Liszt an “entertainer” is actually hysterical to me someone like Lang-Lang that has quite literally devoted his entire life to his craft and has awards beyond numerical expression is on his own echelon
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The title makes 0 sense lmao
With all due respect, even if Kissin had met Lang Lang, he wouldn't have said such a thing. Both of them were invited to the Verbier Festival in Switzerland at the same time, and they just have different styles of staging and understanding of music, and Lang Lang is even better in terms of technique.
The owner of this clip seems to aim at humiliating Lang lang and wants Lang to disappear so as to enjoy Kissin solely. It does not really work that way for most music lovers. Those who trash either Lang or Kissin to demonstrate the superiority of their individual ability to appreciate music miss the point of music appreciation. These two are the greatest musicians with exceptional skills. There is no reason to denigrate the musicians you happen to be less preferential to.
actually, it's you guys always assuming that calling someone an entertainer means trashing him or that being an entertainer is a bad thing . I never said that it's bad thing, I never said we don't need entertainers, and I certainly never said that I want LangLang to disappear. If you seriously want to disagree with me, do not lay words into my mouth I haven't said.
Bro first learn how to play yourself before disrespecting lang lang
Musicians ARE entertainers...🤨. Some are more *entertaining* than others.
They are all heroes who use their lives to pass on notes and history, unlike the musicians and entertainers you say. Grades and titles are just decorations.
A showman playing a showpiece. I don't see a problem.
Kissin is Russian. We play music serious
Ngl I think this is quite a mean video, because you picked a bad performance from a brilliant pianist, like he makes a lot of of mistakes, witch is okay. As someone who has also performed, I have had a lot worse performance that if you just pick them out it makes me look horrendously bad.
They are both performers to me, which is nearly as bad as being an entertainer... But that is the price to pay at this level of public exposure ; one has to judge how each of them let their personnality infuse in their music. There may have worse examples, but there may have some other musician who let the music be...
Never liked Lang Lang. By being obsessed in showing off, he distracts us from the music to put the light on himself and his technic only. Stuck in technicity and thus distracted, the soul is left empty. Kissin, on the other hand, is keeping the light on the music only, and his amazing skills are at the service of it. He always has incredibly audacious and intelligent interpretations, shedding a new light on the piece. Two different worlds, so far apart!
Personally, l can't listen to Lang Lang. His playing is less than subtle, and often bombastic. Hayato Sumino and Yuja Wang are remarkable pianists who bring soaring individuality and interpretation to the art.
Well, I’m not even entertained.
I found it funny seeing how peoples says Lang Lang is the best, he's that, he's this. If you really watch the video and listen to both, you could clearly recognize the difference between them both. Kissin clearly majestic, the sound is like "bells" while "La Campanella" itself means bells in Italian. The audiences who watch Kissin's perform absolutely stunning, and Lang Lang improvissasion is just too much and i could say that he's entertained the audiences. Kissin is like playing for himself, he has his own world when he played, and the audiences fall into his world. It might be depends on liking, but i agreed about the title. "Musician and Entertainer".
Travailller des heures par jour sacrifier votre vie votre enfance adolescence ... une vie de duuuure travail.pour en arriver là et apres ca oser dire que l un ou l autre n est pas un musicien! Tous les deux sont des musiciens des artistes musiciens exceptionnels. Avec chacun sa particularité mais tous deux.joue merveilleusement
They are both musicians and entertainers.
If Liszt were to emerge now, they would call him an entertainer.
The preformance at 06:50 is not good, it's incondite.
kissin plays mechanical and Lang Lang more show off .
Who are you to judge the musicians?
he's money boy
who are you to question those who judge the musicians?
@@tarokan_nor 😅😂 such a Villain
When Lang Lang performs, he aspires to entertain with gesture, flamboyance, and exaggerated interpretation of the music that is not true to the score or the composers intent. Which in its way is just fine. When Kissin performs, he aspires to something else - compared to Lang Lang, there is less gesture, less flamboyance but more artistry by adherence to the written score, honoring the intentions of the composer and with technical precision and control in service to the expression of musical beauty and truth. I find the latter more satisfying. But, that's just me.
While different, one didn't seem any better or worse than the other. I've not seen one performance of this piece by many different pianists that didn't impress me, while each was unique. How many realize how fortunate we are today with such performances just a click away! Wouldn't it be interesting to see List play this piece himself? We'll never know.
@@rdw952 @rdw952 In piano performance, as in every endeavor, there are a range of technical abilities. While both of them are clearly very talented, from a strictly technical perspective, Kissin is more skilled. That is not to say that technical skill is the only measure - bit it is important. Also important, at least in the domain of performance of music in the 'classical' genre, is fidelity to the written score and, through the study of music history and the composer, performance practices of the era. Kissin's playing is much more faithful to Liszt's written score. Lang Lang is absolutely well educated and certainly can read the score accurately - but he makes a conscious choice to be more flamboyant and excessive for the audience's benefit and enjoyment and is is much less faithful to the written score. Which, as I said above, is in its way just fine, although not as satisfying to me. How much diversion from the score is OK...? Personally, I'd rather hear a jazz musician reimagine the piece in an entirely original way that is rhythmically, harmonically and stylistically distinct and creative than this performance by Lang Lang. The good news is, as you said, we are fortunate that we don't have to make a distinct choice of one over the other - the options are, almost literally endless.
@@davidalpern9297 If both played according to the written score with identical understanding, there would be no difference. I don't agree that one is proven "better" than the other, just a different perspective(influenced by their teachers, parents, favorite tv shows, etc) and thus, different execution. I can't imagine two pianists playing exactly the same in every aspect. Have you ever watched one of those videos of artists painting a portrait of the very same subject at the same time in the same lighting? The results are so different, which is why it is interesting to watch. Same with music as ART and not as SCIENCE. That's why they are called artists and not scientists. My opinion of these two is that one is more scientific(?) and the other more artistic. One may study to exactly replicate the composer's idea while the other chose to share his personal preferences over the composer's intentions once he understood them. You seem to prefer the scientific approach, which is just fine. I don't prefer either one and enjoy both for their unique expression. Everyone wins! (Still wish List had his own youtube channel!)
@@rdw952 Ahhh - but you either misunderstand or I didn't make clear what fidelity to the score means. Other than the notes themselves, there are virtually no directions in a musical score that tell a performer literally, exactly and precisely how to play... the dynamic, the tempo, the ritard, a note, a phrase, a melody. The score simply does not provide the written language to precisely convey the composer's intention. And, it's a good thing, because there is art and magic of each performers interpretation of the often vague, non-precise written language of the score. I can play you 20 recordings of Mahler's 3rd symphony (or any other work), by extremely well regarded symphonies all following the same score and they will all (to a greater or lesser extent) sound very different. Critics will argue that this interpretation is better (more artistic, more beautiful, more insightful, etc., etc.) than that one, but, for the most part, they do not take exception to the performance because it is not faithful to the score. Which takes me back to my point. There are many, many recorded performances of the Liszt. Most all of them are faithful to the score. Of these, some are considered to be more artistic, more beautiful, more insightful, etc., etc.. Most play the correct notes, without taking great liberties (long pauses, large tempo changes, missing or changing notes, dynamics levels) that are inconsistent and divergent from the written score. As I said in my first comment - "How much diversion from the score is OK...?". In Lang Lang's performance, the liberties that I listed above seem to me to not be true or accurately represent the range of possibilities for interpretation based upon the markings in the score - especially from a world renown, highly trained professional performer. A performer can certainly play a piece from a written score any way they want. And, apparently they do. And I generally do not find it the most satisfying given the nearly endless listening choices available to me. But, that's just my opinion - right?
One is hard-working,seriously churning out his music with sweating, while another is like joyfully playing his music in his toy room.
I’d say they’re both both.
Lang Lang plays like his fighting with multiple alter egos: - Lang Lang: "Oh yeah let's hit that note with flamboyancy" - Leng: Leng "Stop! just focus on the mus.." - Ling: Ling "Hi Mom! I'm playing!" - Long Long: "Did we forget to feed the cat?" - Lung Lung: "Ah! Where am I?"
They're both way more talented at the piano than anyone commenting. So there's that. People express themselves differently when playing music. It's called art. Learn to appreciate it for what it is.
It's such an incredible showpiece. How can anyone be criticized for showmanship, nuance, beautiful phrasing, emotion and flawless technique? LL clearly enjoys and expresses the music while he plays. Audience engagement and moving people is what performing is all about.
My piano teacher once said langlang was a poser
Lol! An edit that sums it up nicely
Part 2 should be a comparison between Alexandra Dovgan and Yuja Wang.
Lang Lang is a musician. He has some great interpretations of pieces. I'm not a fan of the whole showman thing, but I still recognize his musical ability.
kissn is just better. holds time for the whole piece
lang lang is commercially successful yes and very smart, with a great marketing instinct BUT that doesnt mean he isnt an incredible artist.
Anyone who can't see that clearly Kissin played it faster and cleaner is not very musically inclined. Just listen and compare part for part, like the coda and before. back and forth and you'll see the difference if you weren't able to see it the first time. Here, for example 3:34 vs. 8:10. Also look how he slowed it down here to get a better grip of the phrase 7:56 Vs. 3:22 and those are just a few examples. What are y'all talking about??! Delusions!!
我傾向前者kissing 他技巧更高妙 對聲音的要求是偏清脆+輕盈 他的聲音讓我聯想到中國古代的禮教樂器「鍾」鼎之聲 可是又混合著玉碎的冷冽清絕 這是他對李斯特「鐘」的的詮釋方式 不管是朗朗或李雲迪都做不出這個音效 朗朗的鍾鼎之聲較為長聲 聽起來比較偏向暖色系 Kissing做出這個音色效果 不知道是他的技巧更高超還是他的腦中的要求的音效異於常人 我傾向兩者兼具 我剛看了他12歲彈蕭邦的鋼琴曲 他本身對聲音的理解就是如此 是天生還是受他的老師的影響? 如果是天生 那真的是很有才屬於創造者 而非單純的表演者
Challenge Yuja..
a show piece needs be show off, 朗朗 did it.
So Which one is an entertainer? All I hear is spectacular
Liszt lives, while exist such persons as Kissing and Lang.
More like the difference between a genius and a god
*"We serve the music of the composers who were geniuses. We are not geniuses."* *Maria Callas*
I would say artist vs musician.
I think I heard a mistake at 5:51 ish
Western racism at its best huh?
Nope. Just Lang Lang
With every criticism that western people direct towards eastern people being phrased as racism, racism will indeed never die. Thank you for that, you are a great person and a true enrichment to mankind
How about Langlang vs Taylor Swift?
Lang lang
solo jugo de naranja
Salz
Lang lang made almost no mistakes. Kissin made many. Lang lang’s interpretation is far more original than Kissin. Since when have “musicians” needed to play a piece the way everyone else does, exactly how the sheet says by rote? Ridiculous video.