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Lol. Obviously, the Theosophists still have a lot to learn if they still don't realise that Krishnamurti adhered 100% to the occult and esoteric rules and laws in everything he said and did, and applied them as written down by Blavatsky. Tell me, do you really have no idea, not even at the basic level, what's in your own books?

Bravo David Moody. You've done justice to this "unknown" man.

Kirishnamurti has been with me since before emails too. Thank you for helping me to understand some of his insights.

I'd like read the book of teacher Krisna

I am a great fan of Pablo Sender's talks about Theosophy and other related topics. Thank you Pablo for being the spirit of investigation and finding so and so --

David, I beg to differ strongly. Krishnamurti used his own vocabulary and expressed the teachings exhaustively unlike other masters in human history. But that does not make it original. It does not mean that nobody else has pointed to the truth like he did. In fact, at the very outset following the dissolution in 1929, he made this abundantly clear. “There is nothing new under the sun. Everything has been thought out, every manner of expression has been given to thought, every point of view has been shown. What has been said will always be said and therefore there can never be anything new from the ordinary point of view you can only vary the expressions, using different words, different connotations, and so on. - November 7, 1929. Without doubt K’s teachings are almost identical with the Buddha, Advaita, and Visishtadvaita. Unfortunately only a very small minority of K listeners had a traditional background with familiarity of the above philosophies. So they simply assumed he was original. In fact, all of K’s teachings until 1929 used traditional language because he spoke mainly to Theosophists who were familiar with that vocabulary. Once he started speaking to the world at large, his vocabulary had to change inevitably. Looking back, it is simple enough to understand the history of K.

29:50 ummmm soooooo goooooood

I get the feeling that David is one of those few people who have almost, though not completely, understood K.

Focus on Teaching, more than teachers. - #Masters

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Three words said and explained very clearly by Krishnamurti are observation,concentration and attention. Attention expands mind beyond limits and in its silence the otherwise dissipated energy concentrates and the intelligence acts. And brain in that state regenerates .Energy is free to act make new patterns . Period .Simple.And this is to live in Meditation,a sacred life.This is Religion.

Really good presentation about thoughts and consciousness. It made me think of how practice is needed for neuroplasticity to take place. I believe that consciousness is more than just a result of the human brain, but there is a correlation between the thinking process and how the neurons are connected and maybe even untapped potentials such as in the cerebellum.

Mr.Pablo sender's lecture was very depressing .He emphasised very much the theosophical knowledge and its practices.They have been relegated to history. Truth is a pathless land. Choiceless awareness is the first step. Life is about understanding myself and the ending of self.Do not try to explain about K and it is not necessary and is an act of vanity. Visnu Nagarajan

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Sorry sir. I do not agree with those who think Krishnamurti is difficult to understand. He is understood by many and changing many lives. People who really listen benefit hugely. No one like him.he is original.

it is said only about four thousand people worldwide have understood the krishnamurti teachings

God Seed Krishnamurthy, I just bring to your attention, that In this birth Krishnamurthy and Buddha can't be same. Example around the world nobody have same or similar face. Everybody have some different knowledge.. but God knowledge is infinity ♾️

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My guess is that the apparent difficulty of individuals reaching enlightenment is that it's about a collective awakening! The development of humanity as a superorganism. And J. Krishnamurti may have hinted at that with expressions such as "thinking together". Actual thinking together requires a collective consciousness.

I wish to bring your attention to another, absolutely unique, without precedent, impossible to describe Enlightened Master, Incarnation of Lord Shiva.... the Formless in Form... HDH JGS SPH Nithyananda Paramashivam. My reason for mentioning Him here is that he is absolutely approachable and easy to listen to, and challenging as can be. Swamiji is truly shedding light on the human condition and sometimes mentions Jiddu Krishnamurthy with great reverence.

Wow, what Krishna said about J. Krishnamurti saying that a disciplined man is lazy, that's a very good point! If the man was disciplined in his subconscious, he wouldn't need to make himself disciplined. Krishnamurti talked about another kind of discipline and my guess is that it's the subconscious kind of discipline without inner conflict with the conscious mind.

As long as we seek answers, we don’t truly ask. As long as we read books, compare teachings, try to explore from a knower point of view - Surely, barren land is the fact of all teachings

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I first got acquainted with the works of Krishnamurti at the age of 17, living in the USSR, in samizdat, since spiritual literature was not published in the USSR in those years. Now I am 65. During this time, technology has allowed me to be almost directly present at his conversations and touch the "living water" of this Great Author. I have never encountered anywhere such a deep and objective coverage of the understanding of his teachings as David Moody. Thank you very much!🙏

What is the purpose of comparing Krishnamurti with the Buddha? But for the rest ......thank you!

Thank you very much!

Brought back my days at Rajghat, spent as a teacher😊 The weekly talks by Professof P. Krishna on the Rajghat school campus and study centre. My first grounding into JK's philosophy was through Professor's talks. !! Thankyou P. Krishna ji, as we called you.

Jiddu speaks for himself. He was just like you and I , a human being .

Thank you. At least now I am happy to see that I am not the only one that find it so difficult to understand Krishnamurti teachings. However something is clear for me: He was absolutely original, and he was a humble man who behave accordingly to his teachings of choiceless awareness, observation without center and freedom from the known.

THANK YOU ALL SOOO MUCH...Only a open Heart can understand this...

Once, 'K' had said : " the secret of my mind is that I don't mind anything ". I think it's corollary to his teaching of " dying to every passing moment and incident ". Of course, only a vacant (and alert ) mind can do so. There is a story in the life of Buddha that a strong critic of Buddha had furiously argued with him so much so that ultimately he could not control himself and just spit on the face of Buddha. The accompanying disciples of Buddha also were enraged. But, Buddha simply wiped his face and asked the culprit if he wanted to say something more. The critic went away in a huff. However, later he felt ashamed at his beastly behaviour and could not console and forgive himself. Next day, he came to Buddha and profusely lamented. Buddha said : do you still remember yesterday's incident ? Much water has flown the Ganges since yesterday. It has not left any mark in my mind. Don't lament my friend. K's state of mind and his teaching quoted above really corroborate the above story of Buddha's life. 🙏🙏🙏

Informative and inspiring.

Krishnamurti wasn’t anything, he was just talking to everyone, to put a label on him would completely negate everything he’s said. If one is ever in such a state of “The Buddah” or “Enlightenment” which is absurd to even put into words because such states are beyond conception and words, arising from thought, so to even say such things would be irrelevant. One does not attain enlightenment, you don’t attain a word and symbolic representation would be moot when it unfolds.

Thank you Prof.P. Krishna ji 🙏🙏🙏

David wonders if Krishnamurti is still popular in India. When I was there, I tried to find K's books. The booksellers told me that they don't stock his books anymore because no one wants them. One reason K was so popular was because he had such an uplifting presence. I say this having heard K speak in Mumbai in 1983.

I disagree with your statement that Krishnamurti was something new and had not been seen in the world before. If one as a seeker, has a recognition of, some realization of Awareness or Oneness or Non Duality, Source, Emptiness... (whatever you want to call it) his teachings are very accessible and resonate like a temple bell. But first there has to be a recognition of what it is "you" essentially are... if not you won't recognize what he was pointing to and the whole of it will slip right over your head. As JK used to say "it is the seeing that frees."

Thank you David 🙏🙏🙏❤

He let the world go and his pineal lit up then he seen the truth

🙏✨Namaste Sir✨🙏

Advaita is the core of K's teaching, without uttering a word of it though. (I) have grasped it so well and is now working on self transformation movement. Join us. Let's spread K teaching far and wide. #swamyvkn

Namaskar to All🕉️🙏 I listened in disbelief to Mr Moody's answer regarding the Buddha and J. Krishnamurti. The Buddha has had and will always have the utmost impact on this world. Krishnamurti's legacy will not. That is clear. Did J.K. produce ANYONE that reached the level of clarity required. Those who knew him and are still alive are doubtful. Did the Buddha's teachings produce others who were "awake". A resounding YES!!! I also found J.K.'s style of dialogue and discourse dry, heavy and unnecessarily challenging with no hint of compassion and love. When a group would laugh at something Krishnamurti would say, he would get ridiculously angry. There was no lightness that could be seen. All that, said, my Beloved Father, Bhagwan Sri Yogi Ramsuratkumar Maharaj had Divine Love and the utmost respect for Krishnamurti, his only saving grace, to me. Yogi Ramsuratkumar sought J.K. out on a few occasions and did have a private audience with J.K. This has been recorded in books on the life of Yogi Ramsuratkumar. The speaker mentioned J.K. never asking for money but it doesn't stop this group for asking for a ten dollar donation at the end of this video. Ironic. Yogi Ramsuratkumar 🦋 Yogi Ramsuratkumar 🥥 Yogi Ramsuratkumar ❤️ Jaya Guru Raya 🌺

What a wonderful insight into the personality and teachings of JK Thanks professor Krishna ji for sharing your experience

Thank you Nandini🙏🙏

Because all spirituality is rubbish. Because talking about spirituality is rubbish. Because the human mind is rubbish. Because the truth is only revealed when we stop talking and thinking, yet he talked a lot about it. And when he talked he sounded very hollow. Listening to him felt like eating a sandwich with lots of sand in it.

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Thank you. I'm so happy I found this this morning. 🙏❤️🌍🌿🕊🎵🎶

Everyone should listen to all Jiddu talks, especially those with Dr. David Bohm.

What a great season 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😍🤗🤗🤗

Thanks for sharing such important retreat discussions 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😍😍 Please keep posting all these discussions ❤