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That’s a throwback. 😁 I do recall doing and thanks for the suggestion. I may revisit it at some point as a video If I may, what was your thought about how I described the installations? Feel free to post a reply or hit me up at davesdisneyview@gmail.com

Im puzzled over your description and picture pointing to the antenna on the roof, engineered to radiate downward and somehow interact with the cable below. I'm no engineer but that doesn't sound right. Maybe, or I suspect, the transmitter on the roof was a self contained unit used to cover the parking lot, and a completely different transmitter fed the cable for the roadway. ~ Which seems more likely. I've been researching LPAM and that's why it caught my attention.

That’s a great question! I made that podcast about 5 years ago, so I can’t remember the exact details. I’ll have to go back through all the info I found (assuming I still have some bookmarked pages or notes from a guy I talked with along the way). Whatever I come up with will be in conjunction with a revisit as a part of a video. That said, I am an engineer, and I recall reviewing what I found and thinking it made good sense. It could be that I was wrong in my conclusion (I violated rule number one! Never say you’re wrong!), or perhaps I was incomplete in my explanation. I do recall that they had several radio broadcasts, so maybe the two were simulcasting rather than one feeding another (maybe?). But one of the things that drew me to this story was the fact that Disney was being wildly innovative (I mean who thinks to bury a cable next to the road for self promotion?), and I have a vague memory of them doing something rather unique with the broadcast. I guess in broadcast terms, I’ll say “stay tuned”

@@lostfoundwdw8953 Well the cable next to the road for transmitting information to drivers was not something new, the method had been used for decades (the first such installation was for the George Washington Bridge in New York in 1938, later the Lincoln Tunnel and certain stretches of highway, colleges, by the early 1970s the LAX airport had such a system in operation and so did many drive-in theaters (Cinema Radio) for the movie audio on the car radio. What Disney did with radio was notable, but the idea itself was nothing new.

Incidentally, these type of cable installations are/were not licensed operations, anyone can do it, its completely legit and is governed under the rules of the FCCs part 15. In fact, it was LPB who had installed Disneys system, and had petitioned the FCC to rewrite the paty 15 rules to allow a slightly greater field strength for leaky cable,, and the FCC agreed. That's not exactly how it happened, but thata the general gist of it.

Correct. I wasn’t quite as articulate on that point. The construction started in California in 1979, and was moved to Tokyo so it could be prepped for opening.

Don’t know what this means. 🤷‍♂️

​@lostfoundwdw8953 please the image of the accident in 1974

I’ve never seen one. And I couldn’t find one in the newspaper archives. The paper only had the blurb I showed.

As do I. I wasn’t there that day, but it feels like I was there in a way. My heart breaks over it - still.

I got my monorail toy when it first came out, maybe 25 years ago? (You may have noticed the various parts shown are discolored). The switch was one of the accessories available at the time, so I picked one up. I rather enjoy it. 😁

Meant to also say that my monorail has dialogue from Kevin Miles, who did the spiel from 1988 until they changed in the early 00s. The switch also has spiels from that era. Realizing now that this is a vintage collection, on a future episode I’ll have to play some of those.

Thanks. And welcome!

Yeah. I never drove the monorail, but I do miss the general nature of working at Disney world. It was a lot of fun.

Fair enough in nitpicking. That’s why I started the discussion at the roundhouse, though I didn’t say it specifically. Yeah the tractor spur was an addition they made relatively recently; that I didn’t mention that but should have. Hey! A reason to make another video. 😁 And … the cost … that’s why they built the monorail beams for Epcot on site. The facility is still there. Just saying.

Info about the on site beam manufacturing facility is included in episode 71, the history of the monorail. th-cam.com/video/xyFlpdoLCIg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oCZQGkD-bOeB4xrq

@@lostfoundwdw8953 I wasn't aware the facility for making beams was still there! Learn something new every day.

Thank you!

Thank you. I also wondered whether she did the painting herself, or maybe simply did the overall template. I don't know for sure, either way. I'll have to go through my videos to double-check the location (or better yet, visit the Contemporary!), but at the moment, I stand behind it being on the Chef Mickey side.

@@lostfoundwdw8953 She very well could have done the painting, it just seems like an almost impossible task for a single person. But idk! The only reason I know it's the gift shop side is because I'm painting a recreation of the mural, and I took the reference photo from Chef Mickey's cafe, and it's not the side with the five legged goat XD I've studied it a lot, and I just doublechecked. Unless it also has a five legged goat, idk. Either way, nice video!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you.

It was actually a different hand stamp. I believe it was a monorail or something. While the theme park was a character(varying by day) But they did move the barriers and entrances sometime in the 80s, so you didn’t need a monorail handstand anymore.

Send me an email please. Dave@disneyworldpodcast.net

Thanks

I can remember the words TTC being in use in the early 80s. As to why, my best guess is that when they got into the Epcot build, they changed the name; the original plan was to have everyone park in the main / Magic kingdom parking lot and select your destination. Of course, they changed the plan and built an Epcot parking lot. But that was still the hub for transportation. So it wasn’t the “main entrance”

Thanks for stopping in

The problem (if you will) is that sometimes Disney has reasons for doing things that are specific to them. I wasn’t sure if that was the case here or if they were doing something more traditional. That’s it.

So I was on the right track, generally. Good insight. Thanks.

Sometimes their sense of humor is missing. And their legal team takes everything very seriously. Cute idea tho.

I didn’t specifically call it out. I wanted to talk about the history of the associated legislation. But for context, when the state “changed how Disneys improvement district runs” or perhaps “took control of Disney” - they actually only made two changes. The name changed and how members get elected was altered (some are appointed, and they no longer come from the two cities where employees live) Yes that does modify how this all works to a point. But it’s not at all like some would have you believe.

Thank you. I was (perhaps obviously) saddened by how this turned out. But life goes on. I am working on replacements that cover much of the same ground. My current episode is specific to the history of these trains.

Lucky you! Interesting. I had always heard it was 3, with a max of 4. But it would make sense for it to be 4 when it’s busy. And by the time Epcot was under construction, park attendance had increased, so 4 may have been the norm. As an added thought, even before the grand Floridian, there were 4 stations so all trains could be stopped at a station for safety reasons. (Always a consideration)

@@lostfoundwdw8953 Oh and let me tell you. You REALLY had to be a good driver to run on a 4 train beam!!

100%! those two things ARE the monorail

It is truly shocking and surprising the fleet is held together with duct tape at this point… here’s to hoping they spend a little of the $60 billion at Disney world on new trains!

That could be. And actually that may be based on the concept of the makers mark now that I think about it. Like I said, I wasn’t / am not sure.

@@lostfoundwdw8953 1:25 As you mentioned, you could ask Bob Gurr, the creator of the original Disneyland Monorail. He's still around and very active in his 90s!

If I have a chance I will. I had a million questions when I interviewed him…and he had more answers than I could digest. So I never got to some. In a way, it was a delightful problem.

In development parlance, Mk is a version/variant or iterative model.

While I’d like to say, I don’t think it’s the right thing to do publicly. But I’m always happy to have a discussion offline if you have questions. 😉Dave@disneyworldpodcast.net

They're "evergreen" for the most part...you are welcome any time!

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.

Sadly... Its looking like a lost cause, so I'll have to go to "plan b" and create some new / different content about the monorail. TH-cam is funny that way, but its the cost of doing business I suppose.

Thank you. It’s no small feat. But I like to think of it as a labor of love in a way. I have all this information rattling around in my head, but it really takes time to confirm those thoughts, and have them make sense. Plus, there’s always something new to learn along the way. 😉 As for this video…I’m hopeful that it will work itself out. If not, I have some thoughts about what I can do to replace it in a way. Stay tuned I guess.

Thanks. I did too. TH-cam is … a bit of a beast sometimes and it’s hard to talk to a real person when there are questions.

@@lostfoundwdw8953 I wish you the best of luck. I know how hard it can be. I look forward to seeing new episodes.

It is. Glad you popped by for a visit to the parks - and to my little corner.

Love the stories. And I’m glad I got the stories (at least mostly) right.

I’ve never encountered anyone who worked on the junk. That’s pretty cool

​@@lostfoundwdw8953 There is a junk photo I had and lost. It is a publicity photo of Mayor Carl T Langford at a birthday party he had on the junk. I believe it was published by the employee newsletter. It was available on line, but I can't find it anymore. If you happen to see it, let me know please. I am in that photo, the Life "Walt Disney World opens" Oct 15, 1971 cover, and another photo called "Disney World's famous chefs" that I had forgotten about. I saw it at the 30th anniversary. I and my friend Mike are on each end, which is funny because we were stewards, not chefs. They just stuck to toques on our head. Our friend Gordy, the tall guy in the center, was a world famous chef. He lives in the Joshua Tree area of California. All 3 of us on on the Life cover.

Welcome. And thank you.

Me too! The guy was awesome. And turns out he was so big in the community at large too. He really was someone to admire.