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Unfortunately they are totally different products and setups so there is no migration between them. It would be super helpful if there was though I fully agree! You have to start again basically.

Hi Mitch, it depends on many factors such as drop, fabric weight and tube size. However, here in the UK we manufacture zero-deflection blinds at up to 5m wide with a 2m drop and we use the Somfy Sonesse 40 motor which works just fine with this size. Somfy has a Zigbee version of the Sonesse 40, which is hopefully available in Canada. Let us know if we can help in any way.

Even showed broken curtains that don't fully close. Where irl most curtains overlap

I've always covered the windows an half a foot surrounding each edge with blankets to make sure I don't have the light. This year I used a couple sheets an drapes. Last night I left one edge open an the windows closed an the a/c was running whenever I woke up. Seems a way better option. My dad would use the plastic insulation you blow dry that seals to keep heat indoors. The 3 layers of thick sheets/drapes I used this year probably would've been excellent with the plastic but I need to keep the windows able to open an cycle in fresh air because in 2 days my skin gets nasty from any stagnant air.

@ShawnJonesHellion okay thank you so much for the tips, I have a old window that needs replaced but it's gonna take more work than just replacing the window we gotta rebuild the whole frame. I'm deff gonna do the plastic insulation around the sides that's genius

Totally thought he was about to dj some industrial music myself

Great question. The first thing to consider is that 'external shading vs internal shading' is not a black-and-white comparison. Think of it like SPF levels on bottles of sunscreen: blinds have different characteristics depending on the blind type, fabric type, fabric transparency and fabric backing etc. A roller blind with a 5% screen fabric is a bit like SPF 30; it lets a decent amount of light and visibility through, whilst offering good protection from the sun. A blackout blind, of course, is more like SPF 50; blocking out light and therefore heat far more than a screen fabric roller blind. Staying with the sunscreen analogy, external shading is like wearing a hat: it's either on or off and it does a great job of stopping the heat. Fixed external shading is not a good solution to a dynamic problem (the sun!) but moveable external shading is a much better solution however both options are comparatively a lot more expensive than internal blinds. That said, they are more effective at stopping the heat/light even entering the building in the first place, so in that respect they are 'better'. Internal blinds, on the other hand, offer UV protection, heat reduction, glare control and internal acoustic dampening. Internal shading can reduce heat loss by up to 33% energy in the winter, whereas external shading is completely ineffective at retaining heat. They aesthetically harmonise with the interior design theme and they can be automated to work with other smart home devices like lighting and AV systems Ultimately, neither is 'better' than the other. In an ideal world, people would specify both external and internal shutters and have both systems working harmoniously. External shading is 'better' at keeping the heat and light out for a few hot and sunny days of the year, but that's all it can do. Smart blinds are a better all-round solution for every day of the year. Hope this helps. If you need anything from us, please email sales@umbrashading.co.uk and one of our discovery team members will be happy to assist.

We now have the complete Somfy Zigbee range in stock! Reach out to sales@umbrashading.co.uk to get a price.. :)

Now we've been testing it for longer we can say that the functionality is impressive! We'll be doing another video soon to show more of what it can do.

Pretty sure it has small incremental movements but we'll be doing more testing soon - the motors are now in stock!

@umbrashading yeah but sometimes if you click that like 3 four times in a row it keeps running like a big step. I work with IO in business setting and that's something I see a lot on the regular IO motors

It's available from Somfy - or it can be purchased with Tahoma hubs from Umbra

@@umbrashading is that a true PoE according to 802.3af, not requiring USB power? The product with ref. no 9028054 still has to be connected to power, as far as i can tell

Hi, We've always found Somfy support to be very good in the UK. Maybe reach out to them on social media? If we knew what the problem was we'd try to help as much as we could.

Hi thanks for the response however if i have to start using support it speaks volumes of the product, i do like tech however i have a limit to how much time i'm prepared to invest versus benefit and this thing went the wrong way, all academic anyway as thrown in the bin

Maybe they will one day... I guess Thread is still too new to be sure where it will go.

Yes you should be able to. The company you bought the controller off should be able to help you with this but to be honest the interface on the Yubii is very straight forward so you can probably figure it out.

We're working on it! Thanks for your comment. Let us know if there's anything else you'd like reviewed.

Good question - we don't have a definite answer on that yet but it would be good to know. We'll try and find out.

I've got one working just fine via ZHA and Home Assistant. I've posted photos of the integration on the HA Uk Facebook group. Works 100%. It does not yet work fully on the ZigbeeMQTT integration though.

I’m here to know this too

the 30 zigbee motor, works fine for me on Home Assistant with ZHA integration :-)

@@chrishampele181 Amazing to hear - I've just taken receipt of a 28 zigbee motor - but I can not get it to pair with any third party hub. Did you have to do anything before ZHA would see it? Set it up in the Somfy Pro app?

Hi, yes you can programme the remote directly to the motor without the app, but this would be pretty pointless as you won't benefit from any of the Zigbee functionality you're paying extra money for. Setting the limits is slightly harder/more complex than RTS but when setting up through the app the extra functions you can configure are a nice touch. We now have these motors in stock.

"extra money" - do we know what the cost/premium us for these yet please?@@umbrashading

No such thing. The lighting doesn't change at all and is typical of a standard window. Thanks for your comment.

That's the Light of Alfheim lmao

He purposely chose broken curtains that remain open! Good pointing out. This company should be seized like most

You're absolutely right. The light is being manipulated by the blinds and curtains themselves. The light itself, however, doesn't change.

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Hi, Not as yet, however, I'll raise this with our team to see if it's something we can arrange for the future. Many thanks - Matthew @ Umbra.

Hi there, yes you are able to use the TaHoma in conjunction with any other RTS/iO remotes or switches.

Hi, from an RTS compatibility angle I don’t think this would be an issue however the Tahoma is not Homekit compatible for indoor shades unfortunately. - Charley

But check out the new one.... worth a look :) th-cam.com/video/RwLGFPB4138/w-d-xo.html