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The Ratrace Losers
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Featuring off-grid news, reviews and how-to videos, the Ratrace Losers TH-cam channel is a companion to our blog located at blog.theratracelosers.com/
I've had a rough 2 weeks
My regular video won't be on time this week. My wife has been in critical condition in the hospital for the last 10 days, and to add insult to injury, one of our dogs has been missing ( and presumed dead) for about four days now.
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Cleaning Battery Connections
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Corrosion on your batteries can cause you to waste power. Keeping them clean is easy. In this video I'll show you how. Battery Cleaning Brush: amzn.to/2oyxzxr Dielectric Grease: amzn.to/2o5QkYA Angle Grinder: amzn.to/2oyFevL Wire Wheel Attachment: amzn.to/2n7r8Br Red 3M Scrubby: amzn.to/2nYHSty Please like and share this video. Leave us comments on what you'd like to see in future videos. SUBSC...
Measuring and Tracking Specific Gravity in Lead Acid Batteries
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Learn how to measure and track the strength of the acid in your off-grid solar system's batteries. Standard Hydrometer: amzn.to/2nto7XD Hydrovolt Temperature-Compensating Hydrometer: amzn.to/2nKM1zz Please like and share this video. Leave us comments on what you'd like to see in future videos. SUBSCRIBE!! th-cam.com/users/TheRatraceLosers Check out our blog at blog.theratracelosers.com (RRLXXX)
Stopping Cracks in Plastic
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Plastic can become brittle and crack when it's exposed to UV radiation. I'll show you how to stop cracks from propagating and ruining your water tanks. Please like and share this video. Leave us comments on what you'd like to see in future videos. SUBSCRIBE!! th-cam.com/users/TheRatraceLosers Check out our blog at blog.theratracelosers.com (RRLQT001)
Checking and Adjusting Battery Water Levels
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Learn how to properly check and adjust the water level in lead acid batteries. Also I tell you how I managed to destroy over $1600 worth of batteries with improper maintenance. Please like and share this video. Leave us comments on what you'd like to see in future videos. SUBSCRIBE!! th-cam.com/users/TheRatraceLosers Check out our blog at blog.theratracelosers.com (RRL002)
Who are The Ratrace Losers?
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A quick introduction to who The Ratrace Losers are and how we decided to go off-grid. SUBSCRIBE!! th-cam.com/users/TheRatraceLosers Check out our blog at blog.theratracelosers.com (RRL001)
Why are the batteries sitting on a concrete slab??? Good .. bad?
That used to be a problem. Back before batteries were all encased in plastic. It's effectively a wives tale today.
I hope Linda got better and your pup was found and returned home. I was going to subscribe but I don't see any new videos on your playlist. Blessings and Encouragement!
Great jobs!
That almost dead battery hydrometer reading gave 1.205 way bettter than my 1.85, without it being charged, whilst mine wS charged, iam depressed now
What do you think about adding electrolyte/acid back into the batteries to bring them back?
When the water level drops is that a sign the battery needs to be replaced?
No! Keep an eye on it fill level as needed I’ve had mine golf cart batteries since 2008 all it still good because I maintenance them
You can drain the acid out of the batteries and replace the acid with new acid that has the right dilution in it ! At a auto parts store it’s called battery acid
Thanks a lot.
Very educating. Thanks
Thanks! Don't forget your safety glasses and a mention that the leg will be in bad shape if you read with the metering device over your lap. Also we will add that you get free "acid washed jeans" on your battery maintenance days.
Are you still off grid in the desert?
Sadly, no. My wife's medical situation required that we move back to the city.
@@chaddouglas2136 Sorry to hear that man, I hope she will come out of it and you can go back living your dream.
Any latest updates?
very god lesson/advice. what about filling battery w/ the same meter? should work?
Can you add acid to the batteries if you have added too much water which resulted in overflowing during charging?
Water and acid???
How are things going?
Well..... We have moved to El paso and I have taken employment. This was due to my wife's medical needs or we'd still be there. We live in a 5th wheel trailer in a trailer park, so we still live "tiny," but I am back in the ratrace for now. Maybe when things change I will move back to the desert. We still own the land and cabins.
Good to hear you are doing ok.
Happy Holidays! I hope you have been able to deal with the weather. Have a happy new year!
Please do it with a good and safe safety glasses
Why do you charge the batteries in series?
Because its a 48v system built on 8 6v batteries. I have 2 parallel strings totalling 16 batteries
Thanks for this video... it's the only one I found that actually fulfilled my need to know the actual "how to" fill batteries.
i wouldn't be putting hydrometers on my lap unless my last name was strauss.
Very nicely documented with great information. Appreciate your time to post this information!
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you mentioned that you should wash the hydrometer because due to evaporation you would end up having concentrations of acid left behind... But I'm led to believe that acid has a lower boiling point than that of water... I watched some videos on how to separate the sulfuric acid from water by distilling and the acid evaporation occurred before the water... when batteries are low on electrolyte, the first thing that people do is add water, but if the acid is the first one to go.... then that means that everyone is diluting the electrolyte and slowly killing off the batteries... The hydrometer gives readings of the ratio of water versus acid and the readings can only be accurate if they are taken always at the same temperature... But the fact that you have multiple batteries, you can simply cross reference the batteries against each other. Naturally the readings will be different depending on state of charge and temperature on the given day but ultimately all the batteries should be equal. when the batteries are fully charged the acid becomes heavier it causes the float to sit higher. Water is an insulator and won't conduct electricity and it's only purpose is to dilute the acid, by adding more water to the electrolyte... you are possibly diluting the electrolyte even further. The problem is that sulfuric acid is very hard to get hold of. Hence the reason why I was watching videos on separating sulfuric acid from water from old batteries... I have seen videos where people have emptied the electrolyte from an old dead battery and washed it out with distilled water and then used a fresh mix of sulfuric acid and distilled water and then placed on charge, the battery was restored... there's a lot of videos and some people say that you can't fix a battery, some say that it's possible and then some people have no clue what they are actually doing... By watching a lot of videos you start to see where are getting it wrong... But washing out the battery is a good idea because lead particles that have come loose over time and they are now sitting on the bottom effectively shorting out the cell... I hope that this information is helpful, by just adding water won't fix the battery... To test the theory, use a tube... possibly even the glass tube from the hydrometer, sticky tape it to the battery so that it vents through the tube. also sticky tape paper to the top of the tube. if sulfuric acid is evaporating from the battery while charging then the acid should have discolored the paper, if not then it's just the water evaporation and the paper should be just wet... well that's my take on it so far.. any way, thanks for a great video.
I’m interested to see someone respond to your comment. Could you send along some videos on the topic? I have been doing tons of research on flooded lead acid batteries. It’s such old technology yet so many people are clueless about them.
You were led wrongly. The boiling point of sulfuric acid is 337 degrees Celsius while water is 100 degrees Celsius. Furthermore, evaporation at room temperature depends on vapor pressure, not boiling point. The vapor pressure of sulfuric acid is 1/30 that of water.
@@richardyao9012 thank you for your response, I'm just trying to get a better understanding of lead acid batteries.... Going by the boiling points of the water and acid, the first thing that I would think is that the water should be the first to begin evaporation, but then again we have to factor in the bond between the water and acid... There might be a bond between the two that changes their properties which may shift the boiling points either way! One example is solder, made if tin and lead, independently they display different boiling points to what they do combined together as solder! Solder should not melt at the temperature that it does but yet it does! So I'm thinking that maybe there's a similar effect on water and acid! What do you think? If we were to bring the temperature up of water and acid, would the water boil off at 100°C or would it start earlier or later? Someone somewhere must have researched this!
I added too much acid to my batteries. How can I measure how much to take out? Or is there any way to know how to balance the acid water ratio??
Take out full solution from battery. Estimate total solution requirement. Drain solution from battery fully.Prepare solution so that drained solution + prepared solution ( one acid to four distilled water ratio ) makes about two and half litre or estimate your requirement. Pour the solution in cells upto marked level on the cell. Now specific gravity will approx. 1.200. Now charge the battery & specific gravity will be near to standard requirement. Best of luck, my dear.
and run a battery desulphinator. i have 4 on my large 1410 ah 12v bank.
a desulphinator works .my buddy gave me 255 ah 6v batteries industrial deep cycle ones that sat 4 years uncharged no voltage in the cells at all and very sulphated for core fees i could trade in for new ones and i decided to put 2 table spoons of epson salt in each cell and level the water levels and attach a 8 stage smart charger and desulphinator 6v to 12v and charged them for about 3 days each till i had 10 of them tied into a large bank then i put a desulphinator on each series chain.and hooked up my duel 80 amp samlex marine charger for a month and a small 50 watt load so it would keep charging and discharging and equalizing at 14.8v absorb and 15.5 equalizing charges .eventually after 2 weeks i noticed the batteries started holding a good charge and gravity checks came out good and i could actualy see clean plates instead of white and gray crap all over them. i was able to fully restore that bank and i decided to use it on my wind and solar hybrid system for 5 years then sold them with 4/0 cables and bus bar for 1200.00 and purchased some crown cr235 6v deep cycle batteries 12 total brand new. and inam currently using those and love the power i get.i have a portable wind and solar hybrid trailer and 12kw and 7.5 kw inverters and 2 30 amp rv ports and i have 1800 watt array and single axis tracker and linear acuators and a 500 watt 3 phase ac wind turbine that has been at 1200 watts in 30mph winds .in all this system is awesome and wind turbines can clean battery plates off too.
What's your opinion on the Hydrovolt? It appeared to be more of a Mickey Mouse novelty than a scientific instrument. It sounds as if you prefer it over the older style hydrometer, I can tell you have knowledge in lead acid so I was hoping for some feedback. An Equalization video to your battery maintenance series would be enjoyable, it doesn't seem that there's enough of them on TH-cam. Thanks and I'll stay tuned!!
if they over flow it could be from over charging. there also a guide that goes in the cell hole in place of the cap. it keeps acid from boiling out and splashes. it goes in the hole and goes up several inches up.
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Sorry to hear about the wife, man. How can I contact you directly, please? Thumbs up for keeping us informed, man.
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Thank you.
Hello. Looking forward to seeing new content. :)
So are we! We will be releasing new videos every Tuesday with the occasional extra on Fridays. Make sure you follow us on Facebook as well. We feature new blog posts every Thursday, and short video clips in a vlog style about what's going on at our place.
I subbed. Maybe you can check my channel out too? So... do you cover the batteries after filling with distilled water? if so with what? if not, what happens when it rains out? you were concerned with getting the tops wet when you were pouring in the water into the cells so what happens if that all gets wet during a storm or does it not matter? I would like to see videos on how to set this up AND is it more cost effective then doing solar power? I think it may be more maintenance? but i do not know. thank you
The batteries have caps that allow them to breathe but not allow stuff to get inside. When it rains, they get wet, just like the battery in your car might get wet when you hit a big puddle. No harm if the caps are on securely. When I was pouring the water in and spilling some, I was more concerned with accidentally washing some contaminants INTO the cells by accident. Also, distilled water is cheap, but I am 60 miles from the nearest supply. I don't want to waste any and find out that I had just one more battery to fill and ran out. I've had that happen. It's frustrating. I mentioned in another comment that I plan to do an entire series on how to properly plan and purchase a solar system. Then there will be one on building that system. There's a lot to learn. Solar power is usually far more expensive than grid power. There are two main reasons to have solar (or wind, for that matter) over grid power: 1) You are so far from the nearest grid power that it would be cost-prohibitive to pay the power company $30,000 PER MILE to bring power to you. 2) You have a philosophical reason to be off grid. In our case, it's #2. I have a telephone pole with grid power right on my property. It would probably cost us about $1500 to get grid power installed here, yet I have over $10k worth of equipment, and I have to watch my power use. We decided that we wanted to live a smaller, simpler life out in the desert, so we deliberately chose to go off-grid.
ahhh ok thank you. that makes sense. i will look forward to your series :)
Welcome! Excited to see the new content!
How many batteries do you have now? How much can they store? What type are they? Thanks!
We have 16 GC2 (golf car) batteries. They are 6v each. Since our system runs at 48v, we need multiples of 8. So we have 2 parallel strings of 8. Each string holds about 210 Ah (amp-hours) at 48v. So we have a total of 420Ah. Of course, due to the natural aging process and the damage I've caused to these batteries due to poor maintenance, they don't have that capacity anymore. There isn't a really easy way to measure their capacity, either.
The Ratrace Losers Thanks for the reply! Is that enough for a typical day's worth of your use? Do you have to supplement with a generator?
Sadly, no. We do supplement with a generator quite often because we have added a significant amount of load since we designed the system. We really could use another eight batteries and another 6-9 solar panels if we wanted to get totally away from the generator. We live a fairly "normal" lifestyle. We have a microwave, full size refrigerator, several computers, fans, two water pumps and a swamp cooler that we use when it starts getting hot.
can you use LARGER batteries like say for a truck or?
Kinda. These batteries are a special type called Deep Cycle. They are made differently than car or truck batteries. While car or truck batteries will work, they will have an extremely short life when used in this application. That said, there are larger deep cycle batteries. And yes, I could use those for more capacity. However, I'd still need to have more solar panels to charge those batteries. When I replace these batteries, I will likely replace them with the larger capacity ones, but get half as many. That would give me the same capacity that I have now with some room to grow when I get more solar panels.
I thought placing batteries directly on a concrete surface was a sure-fire way to ruin batteries. Is this not the case with the deep cycle batteries vs your standard vehicle battery?
Nope. That hasn't been true since they started putting batteries in plastic.
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