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BBC - The Master Game [Season 6 & 7]
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The Master Game was the first program to show chess on television in a way that had a chance of connecting with the larger chess-playing public.
The system developed had players compete in a knock-out tournament at a BBC studio, where the games themselves were recorded; then, about two days later, the players recreated their thoughts during the game in a sound studio. The games were played under tournament conditions, with forty moves in two-and-a-half hours followed by an hour sudden death. (In the first three series, with absolute knockout format, there were also rules for replaying drawn games, but in later tournaments the rules were changed to avoid replays.) The game play was edited to a 30-minute program, so the audience did not have to endure long and unpredictable delays between moves, and commentary by the players was added.
What made the program so successful was the fiction that the players were commenting on the games as they were happening.
The system developed had players compete in a knock-out tournament at a BBC studio, where the games themselves were recorded; then, about two days later, the players recreated their thoughts during the game in a sound studio. The games were played under tournament conditions, with forty moves in two-and-a-half hours followed by an hour sudden death. (In the first three series, with absolute knockout format, there were also rules for replaying drawn games, but in later tournaments the rules were changed to avoid replays.) The game play was edited to a 30-minute program, so the audience did not have to endure long and unpredictable delays between moves, and commentary by the players was added.
What made the program so successful was the fiction that the players were commenting on the games as they were happening.
BBC The Master Game - 1982 - S07E13 - Adorjan - Lobron
The Master Game was the first program to show chess on television in a way that had a chance of connecting with the larger chess-playing public. As producer Robert Toner notes:
I had seen many forms of television chess coverage, but none of them was satisfactory. Pieces would disappear from one square and appear in another, and only experts seemed to be able to follow a game. Also, it was all so remote, I felt no involvement with the game or the players. What we needed was direct access into their thoughts, not the high-speed technical thoughts of a chess-playing mind, but thoughts put in such a way that anyone who knew the rules would be able to follow the most complicated game. (Foreword, The Master Game, 1979)
The system Toner developed had players compete in a knock-out tournament at a BBC studio, where the games themselves were recorded; then, about two days later, the players recreated their thoughts during the game in a sound studio. The games were played under tournament conditions, with forty moves in two-and-a-half hours followed by an hour sudden death. (In the first three series, with absolute knockout format, there were also rules for replaying drawn games, but in later tournaments the rules were changed to avoid replays.) The game play was edited to a 30-minute program, so the audience did not have to endure long and unpredictable delays between moves, and commentary by the players was added.
What made the program so successful was the fiction that the players were commenting on the games as they were happening, with the comments always expressed in present-tense form, thus creating a sense of engagement and immediacy that is not achieved in other formats, except perhaps in the now ubiquitous videos where players comment on their blitz games while in progress. The types of comments offered by the players were also quite effective at communicating the way GMs usually choose a move, relying more on chess reasoning and intuition than the calculation of long variations, except where the position called for that. Though we now have access to a lot of chess on video, no one seems to have invested the time and resources to create a similar product.
Directors: Sandra Wainwright
Hosts: Jeremy James, Bill Hartston
Starring: Robert Byrne, Svetozar Gligorić, Vlastimil Hort, Nigel Short, Jan Hein Donner, Bent Larsen, Tony Miles, Lothar Schmid, Andras Adorjan, Larry Christiansen, Hans-Joachim Hecht, Walter Browne, Raymond Keene, Eric Lobron, Miguel Quinteros
I had seen many forms of television chess coverage, but none of them was satisfactory. Pieces would disappear from one square and appear in another, and only experts seemed to be able to follow a game. Also, it was all so remote, I felt no involvement with the game or the players. What we needed was direct access into their thoughts, not the high-speed technical thoughts of a chess-playing mind, but thoughts put in such a way that anyone who knew the rules would be able to follow the most complicated game. (Foreword, The Master Game, 1979)
The system Toner developed had players compete in a knock-out tournament at a BBC studio, where the games themselves were recorded; then, about two days later, the players recreated their thoughts during the game in a sound studio. The games were played under tournament conditions, with forty moves in two-and-a-half hours followed by an hour sudden death. (In the first three series, with absolute knockout format, there were also rules for replaying drawn games, but in later tournaments the rules were changed to avoid replays.) The game play was edited to a 30-minute program, so the audience did not have to endure long and unpredictable delays between moves, and commentary by the players was added.
What made the program so successful was the fiction that the players were commenting on the games as they were happening, with the comments always expressed in present-tense form, thus creating a sense of engagement and immediacy that is not achieved in other formats, except perhaps in the now ubiquitous videos where players comment on their blitz games while in progress. The types of comments offered by the players were also quite effective at communicating the way GMs usually choose a move, relying more on chess reasoning and intuition than the calculation of long variations, except where the position called for that. Though we now have access to a lot of chess on video, no one seems to have invested the time and resources to create a similar product.
Directors: Sandra Wainwright
Hosts: Jeremy James, Bill Hartston
Starring: Robert Byrne, Svetozar Gligorić, Vlastimil Hort, Nigel Short, Jan Hein Donner, Bent Larsen, Tony Miles, Lothar Schmid, Andras Adorjan, Larry Christiansen, Hans-Joachim Hecht, Walter Browne, Raymond Keene, Eric Lobron, Miguel Quinteros
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The soundtrack to this is fire.
A real old school jugoslav gentleman against a friend of Kasparov, a hypocrit who worked relentlessy for the globalism and all the connected shit
In the description of the video the time control 40 moves in 2.5 hours is given. But the commentator says: 40 moves in 2 hours. Can anyone help?
Fun :)
interesting
Wow ! The cocky American got his butt handed to him.🤣🤣🤣
So interesting to see the confab at the start. Nigel did well to keep to simple crushing moves here. Beating Gligoric is a big achievement considering his record against the great Bobbly Fischer.
Check out Tony Miles on Wikipedia. Interesting read. Short said that "Tony was insanely jealous of my success, and his inability to accept that he was no longer the UK's number one was an indication of, if not a trigger for, his descent into madness."
As mentioned before I wish chess was back on TV🙏
The BBC are reviving it www.chess.com/news/view/bbc-to-broadcast-new-show-chess-masters
My experience of the episode is so different. What with Quinteros' sly smoothness and Browne's boasting I did not enjoy it anything as much as other episodes. Good enough game though.
I like the idea expressed at the beginning that playing bridge is something similar to throwing cards at a top hat! Way to throw shade.
shame this isn't still a programme
Funny if you analyse these old games with an engine. Computer instantly comes up with 13…Nxd4 and black is lost due to the pin after 14. Nxd4 Bxe5. (13…b5 as played in the game is also better for black but far less clear)
Just loving these talk games, only wish chess would come back to the tv🙏🙏🙏
It will be soon! It won’t be a series like this but BBC is producing another chess tournament series for 2025
Great series, really entertaining to watch. Should be more of it.
We need more chess back on the tv🙏
1:50 is anyone can read from lips? lol
He was saying that Bill's comment about improvising is rubbish. Something to bear in mind is that the real game is played before the recording and the players are filmed while going through the moves in order to provide better visuals, together with the voiceovers, for entertainment purposes.
Felt there was a bit of rudeness towards Miles at the end - in both Nigel's comments and the presenter...maybe you can forgive a nerdy 15yr old but the bridesmaid comment was rude I thought
Yes by Jeremy James - it seemed thoughtless.
Argh! The trophy -it's a fat 19th century Mexican in the sun. Has to be - why else would you do that?
Short was not better at 15 than Fischer was at 15 according to chessmetrics.
Worth pointing out that Bill Hartston says at 13:40 that the time control is first 40 moves in 2 hours, not two and a half as you say in your description. Lovely series - thanks for making them available.
Larry Christiansen trash-talking himself is pure gold 😂
this is hans niemanns dad
There should be different country versions of this show
Unbelievable Schmidt did not play Qa3 check when it was effective ( forcing exchange of queens )
Proof that Hans Niemann is a time traveller.
Perhaps at the end of this episode, it should have had the Dr. Who theme?
Wow what a spectacular game what a show of skill 👍👍👍
This show proves that the Government can read your thoughts, after all the BBC could by the early 1980s.
We still won in the Falklands/Malvinas in 1982 though! Rule Britannia!
Nice video
best game of the whole series
Hm, that's what I figured
In 1982, I thought Quinteros would have played The Falklands Gambit.
That would be losing for him 😜
Adorjan: ''I don't think about the money. Money is not important.'' Also Adorjan: keeps mentioning the money over and over again, obsessing about it.
Sad to witness.
Of course when they do the voice over they already know the result. He also said I don't need the money but my family does. 1st prize £2,500 2nd prize £2,000. I think it was just a bit tougue-in-cheek.
Adorján looking like a PlayMobil man with that haircut.
All those personalities from 1981 gone, all these boring mumbling players taking their place. I can see why this was the last series,
In the final position Short cannot win by flagging because Hort can move to the 1st rank and after Kh6 Rh1+ Kg7 Hort can exchange the rooks and it's insufficient material.
Of the 8 players who participated in the Master Game 1981, these are the only two who remain alive, Hort being 80 years old now.
39... Nh3 is crushing. Be1 Nef2+, Bxf2 Qf3+, Qg2, Nxf2+, Kg1 Nh3+ and if Kh1 Qd1 just mates so Qxh3 Qxh3 and black is up queen for knight.
Absolutely correct. Surprising that both grandmasters don`t spot this deceisive move. And the commentators just talk trash most of the time.
28:30 and on the BBC the 15 year old Nigel Short toasts to his victory with a glass of champers! Good old days!
somehow I get as much out of these simple formats as out of expert coverage on St Louis or whatever. What a formidable player Nigel was/is..also Miles comes across well
The calculation is the difference along with a feel for strategy,these players are a whole different level,very talented.
If you run this through Stockfish analysis, Quinteros played very well and was crushing his opponent until he played Rf3? Back then of course they didn't have the post-game engine analysis or evaluation bars. White was +4 at one point.
Yeah rf3 poor move. Qf6+ and then rf3 stronger. Queen protecting a1 from the rook check and forces king onto back rank or h file leaving g file free for a check
Hort looks like Cagney’s husband.
Is it possible to get season 3? I would really love to watch Karpov
Stay tuned
Oh my gaaa!
He is defending fantastic...
These are amazing to watch. Thank you!
My best Channel. These videos are a treasure of chess. back to chess with no engine is always great.
This was the peak for chess on tv type of entertainment, for sure. Such an excellent program. And what a game! Amazing.