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Couldn't agree more. That's why we sell Clos du Clocher and NOT Caymus

We will try to organize a blind tasting

We'd prefer you to seek out non-grocery store brands

it's great for people who love artificial flavors and sugar

@@bighammerwines their marketing is dominant here in Los Angeles. They target our latino folks with a bombardment of billboards

Thank you.

Keep your eyes out. The quality of these wines doesn't match the price quality ratio we see daily elsewhere - especially from small family wineries that aren't marketed in grocery stores.

Even better, seek out a reliable merchant who can guide you to non-grocery store brands

Thank you for watching. You're correct, you have pour taste.

No one's crying. People do want to get their money's worth. If you like over-extracted, high alcohol and significant levels of rs in your bottles then have at it. No need to shit on someone else who prefers more refined producers.

I think you missed the point. That wine at $20 isn't worth it because of the quality by way of comparison. If you've seen other comments, our quality analysis is hardly in the minority.

He is absolutely correct, this wine is grossly overpriced and with each year it gets worse and worse

In what world is caymus worth its price tag? Lol. If it was $20 bucks then yes

I agree. Caymus is great. It's only people who have budgetary constraints who will complain about it based on the price.

We taste approximately 100 weeks per week since 2009. We're not operating an annual wine tasting competition to award medals. We run a business and make qualitative decisions every day. Our expertise far surpasses most of peers. But, sure just for fun, we might make a video tasting blind some wines some day.

If you had to taste 20+ wines at a time, you'd spit too.

So he's not plastered by the end of the day

Agreed. I thought 2019 stood out quite a bit.

Agreed. Even Special Selection has followed this profile, unfortunately.

@@richardbrowe9299 I think the overall is, if someone doesn't like red wine bc they have tried many in the past and they dislike it, Caymus is a great way to open their horizons. It's inoffensive (Meomi however VERY OFFENSIVE LOL). Is it great quality wine for those with more refined taste no, but it's a great start for those who are not well versed in wine.

​@@mcp0y3".. inoffensive.." huh? It's horrible. My friend, you need to expand your horizons. There's absolutely nothing redeemable about Caymus.

@@gregoryscott5780 lol I promise my horizons are pretty expanded.

$90+/btl is hardly a "great start" for 99% of wine drinkers. Rather, it drives them to drink anything other than wine because the quality and value is so bad.

Most people don't start by drinking $90 bottles of wine. The success of the marketing of the brand has deluded many Cabernet drinkers into thinking that this is a quality wine.

@@bighammerwines it's not great quality, but it's superior to most $25-$30 bottles... but if people have tried many times cheaper wines and don't like red, Caymus is a great start if they want to start refining their taste. That's all

​@@mcp0y3"...it's superior to most $25-$35 wine..." No. Absolutely not. There are $25 bottles of wine that run circles around Caymus!

I think Caymus is a quality product and it tastes “good”. I went on a quest to find wines comparable in style which led me to Paso Robles. I think J Lohr Hilltop is in the Caymus ballpark and a solid buy at under $20. Austin Hope Cab… I prefer to Caymus and it is almost half the price although that seems to be rapidly changing… so maybe I should stop talking 🙊

Agreed, the marketing of the brand has been excellent. The quality? For those that know, it's shocking.

I agree ☝🏽… Caymus is good… kind of like what I expected red wine to taste like when I was a child. It has mass appeal…. Sweet jammy dessert like qualities in a well made wine even if it is a bit of a one trick pony. Caymus is certainly not deserving of a scouring face in disgust… that seems a bit overly dramatic. Caymus is kind of a universally appealing Cab and I have heard rumor there may be some Malbec concentrate mixed in. I understand why wine “purists”enjoy hating on Caymus. I don’t think it is the best option and for 80+ per bottle I would rather spend my money on a 100% Cab from a single source with full transparency so we can really get into tasting and appreciating the terroir. I like Caymus but I like it in very much the same way I like Welches grape juice… plus I have experienced options from Paso with a similar style and some I prefer over Caymus both due to the price and the wine itself.

nicely said. 🎉

Disagree. And, we have decades of experience and lab analysis that proves this style of wines don't improve with age. Quite the opposite, they degrade rather quickly in large part due to the high sugar and importantly the high pH. There is not sufficient acid in this style of wine to hold up to bottle aging beyond 5 years.

Sounds like you haven't visited gas stations that have a significant wine selection. I was alluding to the ubiquity of the brand and stand by the comment. If you think that metaphor somehow discredits everything else in the video, so be it.

I can think of 2 convenience stores and 6 grocery stores in my town that sell Caymus. I thought the 2019 was really good, and since then not so much.

​@bighammerwines wine vendor here. Seeing anything over 30$ at a gas station is by far the exception and not the standard. Calling an 80$ bottle a wine that you can grab at a gas station or convenience store is a GROSS misrepresentation. Even here in Texas, where we have the biggest gas stations in the world, Bucees, you won't find anything that expensive. I get your point in that it's very represented in wine sets and you'll find it at most major grocery stores, but this is top shelf at grocery stores, assuming they can even get a case. I sell to one of the top 5 Targets in the country for wine and they frequently struggle to get it allocated.

​@@bighammerwinesWine vendor here. I sell to convenience and grocery stores. Saying that you can find Caymus at a convenience or gas station is a wild statement. Convenience, maybe, if they're lucky. But that's the exception and not the standard. It's very rare and would totally depend on the volume that they sell since Caymus cases get allocated. Some grocery stores go without a case of Caymus for months because they don't sell enough wine to get a case allocated.

My channel and my opinion. Make your own. There is wine. There is not wine. We sell real wine, as opposed to grocery store plonk. We make this clear distinction. There are a dozen wine manufacturers producing 80% of the wine sold in the US, two thirds of which is sold in grocery stores. There are six companies that control 80% of the distribution market. This is an existential threat to family wineries. Consumers need to wake up to this reality or suffer the consequences. Take note of the phone, auto, soft drink, processed foods, and many other consolidated industries. Lastly, adults are in charge of their own feelings and they can take ownership of them.

Thank you for your feedback. We taste thousands of wines per year doing exactly that - looking for the next revelation. Sounds like we're kindred spirits.