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Spooks Gotta Whiz ! Greatest horse ever , and the Greatest rider ever! Awesome team!

I have analysed your TH-cam and found out some problems, do you want to about it for a while?

I think the sport should arrange it this way: 3 yearolds should be in 2 hands in a snaffle or bosal until "the nrha futurity" in which it should be the earliest event a reining horse is shown 1 handed. 4 yearolds should be 1 handed futurity horses, and ineligible for derbys, making the 4 yearold futuritys a single event. I think aged event derbys should be 5 through 10, however; "the nrha derby" i belive should be an all aged event that the only requirement is that the horse has won a check in the same level it's competing at during it's career. Meaning if it the horse has won an open check in the l1 l2 l3, but not the l4, then it would be ineligible for the l4, but good for the l1 l2 l3. It would only need to be weekend club show check to qualify. The idea you have for another one rider one event i believe should be a 4 yearold event at "the nrha futurity." It could be a one round qualifier event, with it's finals also run on sat at "the nrha futurity." On sat finals day start the l1 l2 l3 3 yearold futurity ealier in the day. At the end of that class swap judge teams and have a "4 yearold all-star class" where there is only one rider with one horse teams allowed in it, and it's a l4 open only event. Put 20 to 30 teams in it to crown a best open 4 yearold of the year. These changes would be profitable to the weekend shows, and have a great trickle down effect. The 4 yearold event being a one rider/ one horse team only event would creat a tossup (a huge trickle down effect to lower ranked trainers would come from this) that could create great reality tv drama around it, also. Which i believe coming up with a couple more reality tv shows based around the sport is the key to exploding the sport into mainstream sports. We simply need to look at what the ufc did with the ultimate fighter series, and what Vince McMahon did in the late 70s early 80s to have a model of what could be, and that is to have a made for tv product ready, as apposed to waiting for everyone to want to see what we're doing unedited for weak attention spans.

Great explanations. Thank you so much! I am learning a lot from you!

Thank you so much for taking the time to educate, we never can have to much of that:)😀

Your discussion was interesting. It would have been helpful to me if you would have explained your graphs more before you went through the conclusions you came to.

Loved the show and subscribed. However, Brian Bell and Crystallized Whiskey also won the Florida futurity as well this year. So she won the Florida futurity, the Congress futurity and the NRHA futurity. So cool that she won 3 Futuritys as a 3 year old. She’s the highest money earning 3 year old in NRHA history, the 3rd highest money earning mare in NRHA history regardless of age and the 12th highest money earning horse ever in the NRHA. And she’s only 3. Absolutely incredible

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I really appreciate the conversation about the judging. Very well articulated problem and good solutions to consider. Thank you for doing this video gentlemen

That's how they do it in Europe - riding horses there is like playing basketball in the US. There are college scholarships for it and therefore the youth riders are supported, encouraged and the equestrian sports remain strong while our's in the US are struggling.

In the past you guys have been talking about spreads in scores. Looking at the same video, you 2 have a spread of 1.5 points between you on the Borges run. I feel if judges use the scale, there will be spreads, throw in geographical different point of view between the 5 chairs and the chance of there being a spread is even bigger. I myself have no issues with spreads as long as each judge can be accountable for why they mark a certain maneuver that way based on the NRHA rulebook and A General. Just my opinion

Enjoyed the explanation of the scores. On Trevor hand on the neck it was to obvious, it lasted to long and took away from the difficulty for me

You guys are awesome

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Brian and Jody what a great job thank you From Bobby Schofield

Great job

Lope off from standstill not walk and setup

You have amazing guest in Marnye!! This is great.

Thank you for the education.

Why don't they post a bunch of the runs!!!! Not critisizing these two but where can we see the runs...

no after a million you stay

Enjoyed your comments on judging, which I'm still trying to understand. Would love to see and hear your analysis on the next few horses that missed the cut by 1/2 point or 1 point. New to the sport, I'm trying to understand what gets extra points or penalty. (Fan of Matt Mills and bummed he didn't make the cut)

Is Rancho El Fortin in Mexico?

so much in this episode -Listen here and subscribe

Why US events don't have better sponsor support and producing horse shows versus sporting events in this discussion

Great show Jody , look forward to seeing you soon in Mexico. Congrats Aldo Ramon and Rancho El fortin.

We have cattle in AZ, between Prescott and Wickenburg. There not gentle feedlot calves if you need a few wild ones. Charolais cross.

Life goals! Do not waste your time > P r o m o S M!

Rollback. Read rule book. Stop (slide) Many lack forward motion.

Wow!! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience! I thought I had a pretty good handle on scoring and judging, but your insight was on a whole other level! Happy to subscribe and I'm excited to see what you all put out next!

yes yes and yes lol opinion that is the word we want out !! we are all on the same page!! I have ben roofing for 30plus years and a opinion starts and stops and picking a color because I've ben doing it long enough to show you why and why not with .. install to shingles , metal or flat roofs. my point is I think we can get here with the same kind of studying to score reining at first I didn't think this was possible but I didn't give up and I'm starting to see a way lets start with something simple yes %100 we need leve 1,2,3,4 judges and green Reiner judges I'm just learning and I showed in green and took me 4hrs to figure out why they scored me a 0 after I figured out why I read the rules to them and they changed it but I am just studding for level 4 so I really don't care but some people it's life and death lol the main reason I don't want a trainers option is because I study and even that is not consistent one trainer thinks he should score higher another thinks they scored to high but they will take it lol so here we are and I have some questions and maybe some answers bear with me can the level 1,2,3,4, judges train and show a 3yr old horse and get a score ? because if they can't how do they understand level of difficulty and willingly guided (I'm just starting to understand this) ok fine if they can't is there any input from top trainers on what. why, and how they under stand this better than anyone !!! me as a person studding and watching 100s of hours trying to really understand this at first I was looking at it wrong because I'm really starting to understand a horses brain I can really understand level of difficulty and willingly guided and at first I was really frustrated because I'm trying to train and show my horse at the highest level of difficulty and I'm not seeing the scores make sense so I Finley was able to look at it differently and In a way I'm happy because the way they are scoring is easier to do than the way I was thinking! I would really like to see a lot higher expectation at the level 4 ill give you just one no-brainer example why can you plus a circle if they walk 2 or 3 steps for the lead these trainers can do that on horses that have never ben road I'm not even vary good and I can lope from a stand still left or right.... no reword for the risk ???? I'm seeing lead changes not much different than what they can do on horses that have 15 rides im studying example my trainer was showing me a 2yr old with about 15 rides I said lets see a flying lead change ( he is at the top of trainers ) he comes through the middle hits the change like he's showing a horse boom I yell sold lol yes he is that good but I'm not seeing much difference in the level 4 because no reword for the risk they are just not doing it the hard way they are doing it the guaranteed way I really don't have enough understanding to get to deep into this I could drowned lol a student can't really get an A without the right teacher (I have the best horse trainer in the world that's not a problem) the reason scoring is so close is because its to easy I want to do this the hardest way possible I'm asking you to step up the game before I even get there lol I would love to watch some runs with you and show you what I'm thinking and really understand this ? I'm a slow learner because I have to understand everything the reword comes after all the work is done! I'm still working and I'm starting to get close so that's why I'm here I would really like to get involved more because I can see a way I really don't even like to think about how hard this is to do (judging) I have to watch runs over and over to see things they get one chance and I really appreciate that skill level ....you think it so easy you do it lol no I don't think its easy I think its able to be done with a hold bunch of work and then some more work and then when your to tired to do any more keep going then It will be done I'm not a guy that says to do something I'm not willing to do and I'm willing to help any way I can I'm not even sure I have enough understanding for this comment but i do want to understand ok I'm going to watch another one of your videos for more understanding thank you (I roof houses so don't critique my writing I know how bad it is :)

Rollback 0--1/2 confusing for horse. Train by loping from stand still. Simple.

I have ben trying to figure out scoring and I really think there is a way to score without a option but I study things at a different level and I %100 can't find consistency in the scoring to learn the difference in a plus 1/2 to a 1 1/2 to understand what I need to do to get a plus 1 1/2 is this information some where that I can study and learn ? ( I see no reason to score on a opinion when it can be done with facts! this would take 100s of hours to break down and put in place not simple but %100 could be done ) I really appreciate the Work it took just to get here !!! next level of understanding !!! comes like this (if you don't have understanding pray for it and it will be given to you) GOD SAID :) I would like to be able have someone show me a break down of the scoring so I know exactly what the horse need to do to get a plus 1 1/2 on each ?? where is this information ? with all do respect I'm not interested in a trainers opinion . this comment is to move the sport forward thank you !!!

This was fantastic! I hope you somehow promote this show. You deserve more that 20 subscribers!

Thank you Karen for your comment. We will do an entire episode show on just this aspect of our industry, so stay tuned. The simple answer is in a different format (entry/eligibility) of the Futurity/aged events with a focus on horse power not rider achievement averaged as we can keep an open door at the entry level pro for even more. Hang tight as we will bring a show on this specific topic soon with data. Think about how it could be rather than how it is.

Regarding Jody's comment about handicaping the horses and not riders, where do you build room for the entry level professional in the futurity program. If the top five riders can enter any level of futurity, how does that not provide a choke hold on the top spot for the top or level 4 riders?