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LEEDS UNITED: The Way Back under Marcelo Bielsa
Don Revie had made Leeds United the best football team in the country in the 1960s and 70s. Upon his departure, Leeds had ‘done a Leeds’ multiple times since and after numerous financial disasters they were a generation out of the top flight. They needed somebody to come along and pick them out of the mire. So, they went Loco and got back to the Premier League.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:25 - Since Revie
08:20 - Loco Leeds
26:15 - The Legacy
References for Issue #6 (Provincial England)
And It Was Beautiful (Phil Hay)
Angels with Dirty Faces (Jonathan Wilson)
Inverting the Pyramid (Jonathan Wilson)
Ipswich Town: Champions of England 1961-62 (Rob Hadgraft)
Ipswich Town: The Modern Era (Rob Hadgraft)
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The Sons of Revie (Rocco Dean)
Summer of ’63 (Gary Edwards)
What if Documentaries is TH-cam's only football magazine, with monthly issues of five videos each month on a topic as far back as the dominant Aston Villa team of the 1890s, as recently as Napoli's stunning 2023 Scudetto winning team, as obvious as Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo and their litany of trophies, as obscure as Dynamo Moscow's passovotchka football of the 40s. We've got it all.
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Check out our football alternate history channel: www.youtube.com/@WhatIfFootball3417
Check out our football quiz channel:
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I write about football here: medium.com/@jdoyle9293
If you'd prefer the audio version: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/what-if-football/id1558118890
00:00 - Introduction
00:25 - Since Revie
08:20 - Loco Leeds
26:15 - The Legacy
References for Issue #6 (Provincial England)
And It Was Beautiful (Phil Hay)
Angels with Dirty Faces (Jonathan Wilson)
Inverting the Pyramid (Jonathan Wilson)
Ipswich Town: Champions of England 1961-62 (Rob Hadgraft)
Ipswich Town: The Modern Era (Rob Hadgraft)
mightyleeds.co.uk
The Sons of Revie (Rocco Dean)
Summer of ’63 (Gary Edwards)
What if Documentaries is TH-cam's only football magazine, with monthly issues of five videos each month on a topic as far back as the dominant Aston Villa team of the 1890s, as recently as Napoli's stunning 2023 Scudetto winning team, as obvious as Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo and their litany of trophies, as obscure as Dynamo Moscow's passovotchka football of the 40s. We've got it all.
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LEEDS UNITED: The Peak under Don Revie
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If you watched yesterday’s video, you’ll know how Don Revie built the foundations of Leeds United. They were back in the big time, they’d got their first shot across the bow with a title challenge and an FA Cup final and now they’d built up a reputation. Dirty Leeds were here, and they just might have been the best team in England. Go to piavpn.com/WIF to get 83% off Private Internet Access wit...
LEEDS UNITED: The Origin Story
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Regardless of where they might lie in the English football pyramid: Leeds United are a big football club. This is the objective truth no matter your club allegiances in the year of 2024. Rewind 70 years they were nothing. They weren’t even as good as Huddersfield Town and even Bradford City had won an FA Cup. And that’s in their West Yorkshire boundaries. Then Don Revie turned up: This is the B...
IPSWICH TOWN: The European Revival under Bobby Robson
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Ipswich Town were champions in 1962 but that was quite literally consigned to what little black and white footage existed of it. The Tractor Boys were ploughing their own future back in Division 2, trying to find their place, wondering if they could ever get back to those famous days. And FROM THE FARM they made it back: this is Bobby Robson’s Ipswich. Go to piavpn.com/WIF to get 83% off Privat...
IPSWICH TOWN: Alf Ramsey’s English Champions
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Ipswich Town have been a breath of fresh air upon their Premier League return but it is widely accepted that they’ll probably go down this season. Today we’re covering Ipswich, but in a more innocent time, when they could get promoted to the top flight of English football and do some magical things. This is NOWHERE TO CHAMPIONS, The story of Alf Ramsey’s Ipswich Town. Go to piavpn.com/WIF to ge...
EAST GERMANY: 24 minutes of stories from behind the wall
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The Berlin Wall fell 35 years ago this month. To celebrate, we’ve cobbled together a few stories from the history of East German football. First off: what better way than to celebrate East Germany’s one appearance at the World Cup in 1974. Then, we’ll take a look at each of the nation’s three European finalists before the civil war between BFC Dynamo and Dynamo Dresden that took place in the 19...
HAMBURGER SV: The Forgotten Glory Days
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The Champions of Europe just drip off your tongue, don’t they? Real Madrid from Spain, Milan from Italy, Manchester United from England and Bayern Munich from Germany. There’s been a few you might not know of from lesser leagues but today’s video is about THE Forgotten Champions: Hamburger SV, a team from a big nation who played against the best teams and were crowned Champions of Europe. Go to...
BAYERN and GLADBACH: Germany’s Original Klassiker
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We all love Der Klassiker, don’t we? When the biggest German sides battle it out: Bayern Munich and Borussia Monchengladbach. Wait, you expected to see another Borussia didn’t you? Whilst Dortmund and Bayern participate in the game known as the Klassiker now, it isn’t the Original Klassiker. No chance, because in the 1970s Bayern’s fiercest rivals were Gladbach, and they were competitive in a w...
RED BULL: The Rise of Leipzig, Salzburg and friends
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Red Bull gives you wings, as the marketing strapline goes. Certainly, Red Bull has had the ability to give wings to several non-descript football clubs you might never have heard of: from the MetroStars to Austria Salzburg and SSV Markranstadt. But have they given football the wings to fly away from tradition and community that it was founded on, to create something rotten to the core? Go to pi...
UNION BERLIN: Their Unbelievable Rise to the Top
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There hasn’t been a more unbelievable rise in modern day football from continental Europe. At the start of the 21st century, Union Berlin were broke, they were in the fourth tier and they needed their fans to re-build their stadiums. But since, they’ve got up, up and up right to the summit of the Bundesliga and have participated in every UEFA competition. This is the story of how they did it. G...
CZECH REPUBLIC: Their Twin Peaks at the Euros
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The Czechs have been successful at the top of international football: precisely four of them that made up their 1976 European Championship squad. Since the dissolution of Czechoslovakia, not so much. Except for two glorious summers that straddled the new millennium so delicately. This is the story of a new age of Czech football, of 1996 and 2004, the Outsiders of Europe’s Twin Peaks. Go to piav...
YUGOSLAVIA: The Chaotic Final Days
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Despite being known as the European Brazilians, Yugoslavian football had a habit of being nearly men. But in the late 1980s, when the country was at breaking point, they were blessed with the greatest crop of players ever. They won the world youth championship, almost won a World Cup and, for the majority of their players, got to taste European Cup success in the Final Days of Yugoslavia. Go to...
CROATIA: The Birth of a Football Superpower
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In the early 1990s, Croatia were one of a new band of nations admitted into international football after the dissolutions of multiple European republics. Whilst the rest of them stuttered and failed, Croatia prospered and became one of the great stories of the late 20th century. This is the story of the Birth of Croatia, in a football sense, and the rise of the Dark Horses of International Foot...
WALES: The Agony of Qualification
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Wales, the red-headed stepchild of British football. They could never have the glory or expectation of England, they couldn’t even lay claim to the history or moments of hope that belongs to Scotland. When England were winning the World Cup, when Scotland were going to major tournaments: Wales watched them on the telly. They spent a literal lifetime in the wilderness, between 1958 and 2016. Thi...
1970 FIFA WORLD CUP: The Re-Design of World Football
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Don Revie was a manager way head of his time never gets the recognition he deserves you have Shanks,Matt Busby and Clough The DON is up there with best he was a visionary he knew as the years moved on corporate box's would be the norm Leeds United of the 1960s early 70s is ONE of the best footballing side's in Europe if not the world 🌎. Leeds robbed so many times of bent officials in the UK and Europe robbed of the Cup 🏆 winner's cup and the biggest price the European Cup 🏆 even the B/Munich players said Leeds should've of been rightful winners FFS 😮 thanks gentlemen keep fighting marching on together we all love Leeds 🦚🇮🇨🤍💛💙
Fantastic manager England s best manager
Great great team. What a midfield. Grey.bremner.giles.lorimer..might be Britain's greatest team ever.?.
One thing I cherish is that I was able to experience promotion with my old man before he passed away a year later. I'll always have that memory until the day I die. Thank you Marcelo for making me and my Dad fall back in love with my beloved Leeds.
A breath of fresh air?? How does 9 points from a possible 36 equate to a breath of fresh air?
How they’re playing, carrying themselves - playing positively against teams like Liverpool City Spurs and United
What's going on with the black strips? Stop it !
One of the greatest teams ever Revies Leeds , broke all records in 73/74, most points which had stood for about 50 years , least losses most consecutive wins , when he let them of the leash they were special esp the midfield led by Bremner n Giles, Lorimer Gray , Jimmy Greaves n Trevor Francis both said the best team they’ve ever played against
Brilliant documentary. O was too young to know this. But throughly enjoying it so far. Will share. Superb seried
Get your facts right! Bremner did not get Leeds back to the top flight - Wilkinson did.
Many apologies
Nothing like constructive criticism!
@ it’s TH-cam, you could make a perfect 24 hour long video but if one statistic at the 21 hour 56 minute mark is wrong, the comments will be filled with that, not the other 23 hours 59 minutes 😂
No worries 😊
my apologies - I can be a bit pedantic at times 😂 keep up the good work chaps.
Best team in England, who lost to us in the FA Cup final. Yeah right, bunch of cheating buggers with a dodgy manager making sure the referee of the match had a little extra in his pocket.
I believe the data indicates Don Revie is the most consistently succesful manager in the history of English Football. Leeds United had never finished top 4 before he became manager and never made a cup semi final. In his 10 seasons as a Manager of a first division club he finished top 4 every season and took the club to 10 cup finals. All this in a hugely competitive era with many different clubxls challenging for honors every season. It this respect his level of consistency for such a long period of time is peerless.
Leeds always flattered to deceive the nearly men of football
Didn’t realise Gary Monk quit I thought he was sacked for dodgy dealings? That followed him everywhere, no?
Ear and he never protested his innocence he held his hands up and said yes I did WTF you on about Lad?
Real Saragossa were the best team I remember seeing during the 10yrs I saw almost every game there..I am nearly 80 hrs and even saw the Busby babes and the great John Charles
Unfortunately Leeds' downfall has been it's Directors! Fan's & Player's SECOND TO NONE!!!
Bremner did not return Leeds to the top flight, that was Howard Wilkinson in 1990
When ipswich signed him i was a school boy at Totnes devon saw him on local TV scoring for plymouth I was so happy knew ipswich were going places he is my favourite ipswich player favourite ipswich player ever from a ipswich fan in Somerset
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When we pay for them to stay in hotels etc. they are, child.👍
Eek , wrong site, sorry.
"Liverpool Football Club exists to win trophies" - Bill Shankly
Was enjoying this but the black lines that come in around 3 mins are awful and had me thinking my screen was broke 😂
I’m sorry man - copyright issues - I’m thinking of ways to get round it 😂
Wanted to watch this but the background music and effects were to irritating
Howard Wilkinson the forgotten legendary manager hardly gets a mention on what he achieved for Leeds United 🦚🇮🇨. Then in 2018 the legendary Mr Bielsa 🇦🇷 didn't even know who he was then he put Leeds United 🦚🇮🇨 back on the world 🌍 stage . 3 s the magic number The DON ,Howard Wilkinson then then the legendary Mr Bielsa 🇦🇷 got us promoted 16 year's later keep fighting all Leeds aren't we 🤍💛💙
Wilkinson will be getting his own video
Harvey, Eddie gray, Andy Gray,bremner, McQueen , Hartford,Lorimer, Jordan. All Scottish isn't english football the best?
When Man City won the CL last year there were only two Englishmen. Still counts as an English team. Your point is moot.
A Dagenham lad who had elocution lessons to get rid of his east London accent, funny one that .great manager though .
Revie was only 17 when WW2 ended so his career wasnt really stalled by the conflict
Bielsa, has a shelf life. His players are f**ked after two years.
Only pipped by liverpool
Another worldy! Outstanding 💯
I'm enjoying your videos but I think Howard Wilkinson deserves better than a mere mention. Getting promoted was no mean feat.
It’s only because I intend to make a full video about it.
@@WhatifDocumentaries3417That's why this channel is awesome
Agree Wilkinson very underrated did a wonderful job
What next for Leeds?
Promotion 49ers with red bull to spend and we will be Premier League Champions then Champions League Winners in the next 10 years well you can dream lol great series.
@ 😂😂😂
english football... Foreign owners with foreign managers and foreign mercenaries with an average of 9 Foreign players from 11.the only thing english is the name on the door,and that's debatable if the money is right!
And of course Wark and Osman went on to appear in the movie Escape to Victory. Alan Brazil ballooned to three times his size at Talksport.
Castlefield or Castleford?.
@@andywrong3247 I know I have no idea how I said that. It’s not even that from me either 😂😂😂
I make the same mistake with Chester & Chesterfield, I know one of them isn't right.lol,peter stories was out on price £15,000.my records show.if you didn't do the castlefield blunder who did.i don't think cooper was listed from Castleford I'm sure it was another westyorkshire town, have you been using artificial intelligence by any chance.albert 2 black who played for leeds?.good work great details just get facts right.theres no anomalies on my pitch,on old photos Mike bates looked the spit of Peter lorimer, cooper turned up with boots in a brown paper bag & asked for a trial..
I don’t use AI, I just got it from a book he was from near Castleford and missaid it and somehow it slipped through
@WhatifDocumentaries3417 Brotherton near Selby..
@@andywrong3247 close enough 😬
They didn’t pay £135,000 on Jim Storrie…more like £15,000. Love the video. Can’t we see the matches, looks much better quality than I have seen before.
Leeds were robbed of the 1975 European championship by a ref who was later found guilty of taking bribes, a stadium riot followed the final whistle, which a friend of mine was arrested for spent a night in a Paris jail, find and deported the next day, that was after Don had left the club.
73 and 75 was before my time but looking back at those European Finals they were so rigged cant belive Milan and Bayern kept the title and trophies.
@@lee-i6x2n my dad took me to my first game age7 on the15 may 1965 we beat burnley 5-1 been hooked ever since now 65 years old, been emotional
Really ? First time I’ve heard of this
@@morleywhite911 well known to us older fans Jimmy Anderson was manager at the time. should be full story on line somewhere
@@johnclarkson-os8hz You are half right,the manager was Jimmy Armfield,but I agree with you on the robbery of so many finals and semi finals which we should have won,it was a conspiracy 🤬
I'm at the age of 76 to remember most of this, the only regret that I have is input that Alert Johannsson had in the Leeds Utd growth. The Black Flash as he was affectionately known played a very significant role in the development of Leeds. As I remember, when the the ball was passed to Albert the crowd cheered him on. He dazzled the full backs, He took cheeky penalties, he was an absolute genius to watch. At the time, it was because of him that Leeds scored the fastest goal of 11 seconds. Leeds played Swansea at home in 1962. Big Jack played Centre forward that day with Freddie Goodwin playing Centre Half. Bremner was inside left and Leeds had the Kick off facing the Cop. Mel Charles was the Centre half for Swansea. At Kick off, Charlton passed the ball to Bremner, who passed it to Albert on the left wing. As he danced down the left wing showing his magic, making the Swansea defenders looking like armatures, he crossed the ball, Where Big Jack out jumped Mel Charles to score Leeds fastest goal at the time. Having said that the most important message of this video is Bobby Collins he is the reason that I met my wife. Because Man Utd were playing Belgrade in the European cup, the TV in the UK covered the match as a preview. The TV program showed a young girl eating her sandwiches on the terrace of Old Trafford, If yo said to me, there is your future wife , I would have knocked you in the head. A month later Leeds played Man Utd at Old Trafford, I was there because it was Bobby Collins return to football after his injury, stood next to me was the girl in the previous sandwich situation, we chatted without realizing the significant of the the moment. For some reason, she wanted me to be in her life forever, We've been married now for 56 years all because of Bobby Collins
Another belter! My late old man was a huge Leeds supporter. (I’m not) But I watched the VHS he had of ‘Leeds - The Glory Years 65-75’ as a kid till I wore the frigger out. Can still name all of that great Leeds side.
Funnily enough that VHS has been ripped onto TH-cam in its entirety and this is what you see in this video.
This would have made more sense if the narrative matched the coverage.
It would. Sadly I don’t have access to the archives of BBC, ITV and UEFA combined, or had gone back in time and filmed matches on my own that were not broadcast for television in the 1970’s.
@ honestly wasn’t having a pop, I’d love to have seen those mid 70s highlights 👍 too!
Excellent video. Thanks. I was at the early home game where we lost 2-4 to Man City. At no point at that time was I thinking Ipswich would be champions. More likely struggling against relegation. Next match I saw was against Arsenal at end of the season, 2-2. Great match and huge crowd. A bit of a crush so us small boys were allowed to sit on the grass in front of the old Portman stand. Would n't be allowed these days. Elf and safety.
been eating soo good this week😭
The 1976 European Championship final took place at the Marakana and was where we were treated to the original Panenka penalty. A look at the rise of Dutch football would be worth covering. Although Croatia do well in tournaments the former Yugoslav domestic leagues are not of a great standard. The Serbian league is just a battle between Red Star and Partizan.
Is Don Revie’s Leeds the best team in English football history? If not, who is?
I need to think about this.....I'm still trying to work out how you only have 1.7k subs.....This channel and your narration is on par EASILY with the bigger channels. We need to blow this channel up. I absolutely love this style of content. I'm 42 and a Lancashire lad. Proper good stuff 👌👍🇬🇧
No. I’d say the Liverpool teams of Bob Paisley or United sides of Sir Alex Ferguson. Revie’s teams were good but not great. When it most mattered they seemed to bottle it time & time again. I think their few triumphs are marred by alleged match fixing, whether Revie tapped up opponents or not…I don’t know. Leeds of that period were a good side though.
@@Cashy__13Huh, so who was 3rd 4th n 5th then?
@@Cashy__13 Thats a fair comment but im not sure about bottling it. Were unlucky in at least two finals as well as a couple of semi finals. Definately should have held on against Chelsea though.
@@Cashy__13 Robbed in many big games. Alleged fixing by Manchester based journalists. Never finished out the top 4 in 10 years. In the final of every Euro tournament, something manu have only recently done.
To rub it in Burnley lost the Cup Final 3-1 to Spurs.
I saw every home game that season. Billy Baxter was the best centre back the club ever had.
Think Andy Nelson still going and living in Spain I remember him as Charlton manager.
Paul Mariner is a Chorley lad and played (briefly) for Chorley FC
I'm sure you mentioned Charlie Ashcroft... he lived in Eccleston (Lancashire) at one time and was a lovely chap
Breaks my heart everytime i see Dons statue over the road on the industrial estate
I’m a United fan, I’d appreciate if you could do a video documenting the years that preceded the 99 ucl win and how we choked throughout the 90s
So am I. I did a three parter on Busby Babes, Treble, 2008 team. You can find it in the Issue 0 or England playlist on this channel.
@ where would I be without this Channel man