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Can somebody explain non-euclidean manifold theory a bit moreeeeeeee I'm way too curios about that one 😭 Or at least what happened with the OP

i love them so much…. i will miss them. i hope they continue somehow

12:30 if this is true this means Hyeju is probably plural. I have no idea if the creative director knows abt plural ppl but wk. Plural people or Plural systems is a one person who has multiple ppl in theyre head. This is commonly referred to as DID(Dissociative Identity Disorder). but the term isnt always a good way to describe so once you know enough you would call it plural. I feel like plural is also used to differentiate from the more narrow understanding of the structure aka ppl believe it only forms from trauma. You will also see that cause looking this up. This brings me to the section of Endogenic Plural. Systems formed not from trauma. This is a broad term as many system origins or reason why multiple ppl exist in one person fall under this category. Endogenics are heavily scrutinized and are constant controversy for not being a traumagenic systme origin. I wont be getting into the discourse on it bc it is exhausting. The way Hyeju is possibly broken up is interesting. bc some plural ppl could consider that how some systems are. as for me the case as a system member, its far more complicated than that as im in a polyfragmented system. which is much harder to explain. ill consider this theory canon as its a very possible thing.

hyunjin left the oec bc she missed her gf heejin

i love being an orbit cos i get to hear things like "speaking of drugs & kidnapping" like what even is this fandom girl

Jaden was so right. the Lore is my favorite aspect to Loona, even more than the music or choreography, and if the new management at BBC was trying to kill the lore then that's a freaking shame, he promised to save them and he did. you all jumped to conclusions and called him a traitor so fast. he literally refused to let his creative vision be killed for the sake of making them just another trend-following marketable group. he followed through on his promise. if he hadnt done what he needed to, artms, loossemble, these wouldnt exist.

lol that intro "nervous 12 year old boy" dont be so hard on yourself ♡ that was funny to read, though

arg theory is definitely one of the best theories and craziest ones i’ve heard!! i know i’m pretty late to this video but i’d love if someone has more information/ a deep dive more into this!!!

god i love loonaverse. i wish we could go back to 2016 when they first started out and orbits were waiting for the next debut

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i’m really really late but do you think yeojin turned into a frog as a way to symbolize getting lost in the möbius forest/ “losing her sense of self”? saying she was in a spell is literally what sonatine is abt, 1/3 did an arcane love spell for her

I do not care about k-pop at all in any way but this cute girl told me she'd make me a stan so i guess its time for my brainwashing

Although Heejin being the "god" of the loonaverse is a super popular theory, I think it doesn't make any sense (along with other widespread theories that are baseless and make no sense such as the "villain" of the loonaverse - there is none - or Olivia /Yves killing Vivi)

For transgender theories on 29:00 haseul being a girl in the day and becomes boy in the night, i just remember what i was learned on psychology class... there is a theory about every human both woman or man has two parts, feminime part and masculine part, what is the personality depended what masculine part or feminime part you want to showed to the world

i don't know anything about jaden jeong but no doubt he was creative, just after butterfly cb loona's production went downhill. honestly their lore is what captivated me the most, but since then we were left with almost nothing.... every kpop group has catchy songs and high production mvs but no group has as much theories, easter eggs and deep pre production in their mvs as loona did. i wonder if his departure had something to do with bbc's shitty administration and exploitation or if it was something about his controversial side.

25:28 okay hear me out... Yves = Eve Vivi = Lilith

Okay new dark iceberg theory I just brain blasted coming up: what if the odd eye circle girls are human experiments? This kinda runs along with the theory that vivi had/has an odd eye but it doesn't necessarily have to. I was thinking about the blood and optometrist equipment shots in Sweet Crazy Love, specifically with Jinsoul. She uniquely has the eye patch, which she's seen with at the end of the "letter to Hong Kong" video. NOW at the end of the Eclipse MV's description as you said, it says that Jinsoul was trying to escape a "basement in Hong Kong". What if she was being experimented on in that basement and was implanted with an odd eye? It would definitely explain that imagery in the swc music video. Now of course the specificity of Hong Kong obviously connects Vivi to whatever happened to Jinsoul and lends credence to the fact that Vivi may have indeed originally come from the oec universe. It would also explain her android origins too if perhaps she was another odd eye girl who was experimented on. Perhaps when she escaped to earth and 1/3, she helped free Jinsoul from the basement, and that's why Jinsoul is seen in "letter to Hong Kong", presumably before she meets oec. Also knowing that Kim Lip, Jinsoul, and Choerry's videos happen from their perspectives before meeting any of the other girls of the unit, it's interesting that Jinsoul's video is a lot of this dark, nondescript area. Seeing as the basement was mentioned in Kim Lip's video before Jinsoul debuted, I don't see why Jinsoul's video couldn't be a representation of that but maybe that's a stretch (but also it would make sense if the fish tanks in Singing in the Rain are representations of the fish tanks in the letter to Hong Kong video). There's probably stuff that im missing but I feel like I have to put this out here even if this is 1 year old, I've never had a LOONA lore brain moment like this before I hope someone else understands my jibbering. Also maybe a non sequitur but I feel like Yves being so involved in oec universe (claw machine colors, the 4 vs. 3 apples, the Starlight mv) and then also Vivi makes more sense if it's literally oec Vivi. Hmmmmm much to think about.

this title is so fucking funny lol thank you for this

fallen angel became a wolf girl finally escape from eden and met god of loonaverse🥹❤️

I freaking love how romantic this song is

wait how is this different from the original mv? ty for uploading<3

wow is that you you're really good at dancing

thanks for the slime tutorial. looks like they deleted a lot of stuff from their vimeo?

30:50 The non-Euclidean manifold thing is probably just the same as the Klein bottle theory (a Klein bottle being a non-orientable 2D manifold like a Mobius strip, but not possible in Euclidean three-dimensional space).

The nostalgia... one day I really hope JJ or someone at BBC leaks all the notes, spreadsheets, whatever, to clear up many of the questions I have about the lore. There's got to be some actual plan for all of it somewhere. The ARG idea isn't something I ever really paid attention to before, but with how JJ's managing tripleS I wonder if maybe there was actually some element of that. And re: LGBTQ themes especially in predebut era, I know Heart Attack was a big deal and I definitely agree about Let Me In, but one of my first comments in the Rabbit stream party chat when New premiered was that it felt like a coming-out song.

Wait so if Heejin is the creator of loonaverse (The Goddess), if Hyunjin is/was actually an OEC, if Haseul is actually a Phoenix, and Vivi being Android, that may mean that (in other dimension or not) the girls from 1/3 are in fact not just normal girls, ordinary students Wich makes sense Yeojin not being part from 1/3 since she's actually the only normal person in the whole loonaverse

rain 51db depicts loona 1/3 trying (?) to find yeojin i think

One thing I’ve never seen anyone touch on is the east of eden line in PTT. I’ve done some research and found out that to the east of eden is actually the land of Nod. The land of Nod represents a land where we travel to when we fall asleep, but also a land of exile.

I don’t know how well you understand the Loonaverse but with what you did you fit the lyrics very well

Loonaverse, 1/3, odd eye circle, YYXY, Mobius Strip, Assigned Color, Location, Animal & Fruit, Earth, Eden.

i dont even listen/watch loona but im so invested 😭😭

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Plz do more, i understood everything.

theres a theory where haseul kills gowon in her mv....

Can someone leave the loona songs that were used in the video

the flowers used during the [&] photoshoot (8:02) dont align with the ones shown during [flip that] - im thinking its either an error or lore

The shoe theory gives me a weird vibe because the company which has filmed like I think nearly all of the music videos has a foot fetish. So uhmanshdhshs

this is very well made compared other theory videos and actually dives into some more of the obscure theories, i like it

Isso tá tão bem explicado

Im a new orbit and it’s so interesting learning abt the loonaverse

Hyunjin was depressed in Around You because (when she was originally in oec) she missed Heejin so she had Gowon send her back to earth and then she didn't have powers or her color and she still couldn't find Heejin so she was like "kms" and then Heejin found her for I'll be there and showed her around so she could get her color back

thanks for the video

i understood like %60 of this video this was pretty confusing mobius strip stuff

the fact about dal segno and lsd video is so funny lol

I love loonas lore is so intresting<3

Thank u sm omg, this was rlly interesting and I love how loona lore has lgbtq+ rep it's amazing and the lore is so interesting, scary, emotional and cool 😨🙌

ive been waiting for this one! turn it up!

27:58

Can you make these for the other Loona predebut besides?

This is very very nice. Someone with fab should send her the link she likes this aesthetic.