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@@standin.tophyy4018 there are some differences on the renak fight though. Now the horizontal poison can kill you, but that's the only substantial change. Good luck on your quest!

@@adrianpene2501 In general terms, yes. Although Void 1 title is the best if you want to go dps and hit back attacks. However, void 1 title doesn't work on void 2, plus Renak's gives 10% damage to the whole party

@@Jahi_144 nope. Besides the strong start of Geas, it leaves a dynamic snow storm that follows your movement. And this is a top about how the skill looks, not its performance ingame (also Muse's isn't that good either)

I think that the point is what deals or gives damage the most, which is what mp regen doesn't give. Remember that we are speaking about Total Attack instead of, idk, Total Effectiveness, or SS rank built characters or whatever else. Being a tank, imo, is useless unless you play Lime only to heal, as you said. Besides her, not a single characters shines at doing that. Also, if you have MP regen at a high value, you sacrifice your crit chance/damage or attack/special attack, which is what will make ur spam meaningful in terms of damage. I don't think healing is essential to play any void at 4f though. I have ran countless times that floor without any healing skills in the party and we can go through without any struggle (besides some catastrophic situations of course lol). I would love to see kog giving tanks or supports more of a highlight than just going glass cannon (ya, I think putting a timer on void was a mistake because it makes players just go glass cannons; it's not the players flaw, it's the game). Amy, for example, excels at ToD. You can go there with like 200k TA in rooms with 500k TA requirement and you are more than fine because, in that specific dungeon, Amy can help you through 1f to 9f and totally break 10f with her skills. I hope something like that can happen to other chars in other dungeons or idk, at least revamp the whole TA thing/timers on dungeons to give supports and tanks better roles.

@@adolphoenie I still argue that, if there's enough room for someone with no support abilities to be "carried" through the dungeon, hell, I even joined a room with an "afk" Lire and Dio, with Mari doing all the heavy work and we still cleared 4th floor 2 out of 3 times... Even though to be fair, Mari is just plain broken as she is. My point is, the timer scares a lot of people, but as long as everybody is optimized for damage in the way their role permits and the team is actually composed well and... not all tanks/support, it's doable. Hell, I would say you don't even have to min-max HP and Defense, just have like 10 of your 15 equips with vitality and 10 equips with a split of defense and special defense. I do kinda think that the logic of min-maxing defenses like you would offenses for glass canons is what hurts tanks the most. Also, I find it funny how many people just assume I'm just using Lime to heal, when the point of having all that MP Recovery is to mitigate the choice between support and damage. If everybody does good at not getting hit, I can just spam Demolish Hammers/Holy Smashes in quick succession. I shouldn't need to heal, but if the need arises nothing short of hyper armor and a just a combo brings it in a second, and I can get back to dealing damage just as fast.

Attack all the way. Back attack is not bad, but you can't back attack in certain dungeons, like in Void 2

That is crevice, the technique that teleports mobs. When you use it while on cd, you can spam it like in the video

It be like that sadly 😔

I entered a 400k 3rd floor room in Void 1 not too long ago and, despite me being Lime and using Redemption, they were all dying like flies and struggling to deal damage getting knocked down all over the place, pretty much showing how little experience they actually have with the dungeon. You can literally just get lucky and have those numbers and suddenly be "allowed" to participate in a room without it being called "getting carried". Meanwhile, MP Regen lover Lime here, who actually has a reason to invest in MP Regen, will get kicked out despite my experience and knowledge with the character, because there is a demand for me to ignore Bless 2 entirely so I can deal more damage than Veigas for some reason, and then die as fast as he does, if not sooner because I can't cast a barrier to be outright invincible, or teleport like Rufus, like, why even have Hyper Armor if I'm going to lose all my HP the instant I try to utilize it? Like I don't understand Glory being such a taboo skill, especially in 4th floor where KoG outright banned healing potions, leaving us only with revives. I thought that simply gaining victory was far more important than the time it takes so long as we even get to 4th. What has happened to us aside from being anxious man-babies that put the logic of grinding hours in a job into grinding hours in an MMO, demanding raw damage from random strangers using characters running on a utility kit, rather than pooling talents with your friends and trying stuff and see what sticks?

@@ShouAmaterasu having lime in a party is a blessing. she can heal, revive, and if needed, she can deal massive damage.

I don't make guides bro ☝️🤓 only analysis

Join the Veigas gang. You won't regret it 🤓

@@adolphoenie on my way to join Veigas gang🤓😎

I join veigas gang because of adolp. I was like dio before. But it was but af. Instead veigas was rising up. So yeah

@@ihsanqowiyulamin5849 lol we even got a testimony, how can I not join 🤣

GG 🍷

Yes, you gotta level them up though. I think they can give up to 2% if I'm not mistaken

Glad 💖

It's sad to see Gunslinger in that state. She has a lot of potential. Polaris is doing just fine as a support, and portals are op imo. Hoping to see those jobs getting some love in a certain future

MP regen is fine up to 100% (you can put some more if you wish. Personally, I would go for 120%, but I have 85% by now and it works great). Attack is also very good if you think MP recovery regen is not a problem.

@@adolphoenie thanks

You can't anymore. Only World Harrier has champion mode now, but titles and champion mode drops are all included in normal dungeons

It's a matter of practice. I've played Angry Bosses hundred of times 🫠

I would love to see that, but idk if KOG plans to update old chars :(

@@adolphoenie we can only dream;;;

Sheesh never saw this comment. My b 😅 to me he's the best AP char; very versatile and strong overall. He would be just below the op chars like Mari/Decanee/Arme.

@@adolphoenie better than Dio? I remember back in the day then Dio was the best cuz of onrush skill

Oh I've seen that too, but Hell Spear value is way too low to build Mari around it 😔

Nope. It's like 70 dollars though

Gunslinger needs some love. Maybe she'll receive some in the next patch

@@adolphoenie Let's face it, it probably won't, it's been disgusting since mari 2nd class release back in 2010

​@@NyppaahClipsi remember when she was released first time and I tried her out years and years ago, her damage was severely underwhelming. Gunslinger needs a rework, especially her 3rd skill, and Polaris needs a her skills a little modernised.

Make what? 🤔

@@adolphoenie make grandchase classic for mobile

It would be neat. I think the game needs some updates for the current cast of characters, so the 2nd 4th bar skill would be something

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