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Gordon Medical Associates
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 20 ม.ค. 2021
Gordon Medical is internationally recognized for working with the patients other doctors have given up on. Complex Chronic Illnesses such as Lyme disease and other tickborne illness, ME/CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome), mold and mycotoxin illness, fibromyalgia, and Mast Cell Activation Syndrome are some of our specialties. We utilize functional and regenerative medicine to unravel the issues that have created disease, and to restore vitality.
At Gordon Medical Associates, we have decades of professional training and expertise, and we also continue to teach, write, and perform ongoing research. Our patients come not only from the North Bay, and the greater San Francisco area, but the entire country, and around the globe for individualized help with a wide range of problems, from chronic pain and hormone balancing to chronic fatigue and Lyme disease.
At Gordon Medical Associates, we have decades of professional training and expertise, and we also continue to teach, write, and perform ongoing research. Our patients come not only from the North Bay, and the greater San Francisco area, but the entire country, and around the globe for individualized help with a wide range of problems, from chronic pain and hormone balancing to chronic fatigue and Lyme disease.
Are You a 'Predictable or Middle of the Road Patient' in Complex Chronic Cases? - Steven Harris, MD
Dr. Harris explains why “middle of the road” patients can be more predictable when it comes to how they respond to treatment. He explains how, with a cautious yet optimistic approach, he can achieve an expected outcome. When the body responds how he thinks it will to the treatments, he is able to move through a treatment plan more easily, helping patients make progress toward a healthier life.
Learn more:
📘 Visit our blog: gordonmedical.com/gma-news/
🗣️Listen to the podcast: gordonmedical.com/gordon-medical-forum-podcast/
🤳Follow us: gordonmedical/ & gordonmedical
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🧭Explore the Lyme Hub: gordonmedical.com/gordon-medical-lyme-hub/
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📞 Find out whether Gordon Medical would be a good choice for your treatment by scheduling a complimentary Discovery Call at gordonmedical.com/discovery-call/
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⚠️ Information provided is not to be considered medical advice. Always check with your practitioner before making any changes to your treatment.
Learn more:
📘 Visit our blog: gordonmedical.com/gma-news/
🗣️Listen to the podcast: gordonmedical.com/gordon-medical-forum-podcast/
🤳Follow us: gordonmedical/ & gordonmedical
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.
🧭Explore the Lyme Hub: gordonmedical.com/gordon-medical-lyme-hub/
.
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📞 Find out whether Gordon Medical would be a good choice for your treatment by scheduling a complimentary Discovery Call at gordonmedical.com/discovery-call/
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⚠️ Information provided is not to be considered medical advice. Always check with your practitioner before making any changes to your treatment.
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Absolutely correct I just worked it out myself.
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Your material is great . Should have way more views . 👍🏻. Thanks
Oh Lord. I'm doomed. CLDS has gripped me tight today.
Have you tried using TA-1 peptides for MCAS? Does that usually help?
I am facing this issue from 10 years when sinus come white clear liquid come out from nose and it doesn't stop i feel headache and weakness in my body i cant understand is this sinus or csf could you please tell me is that csf or sinus it come out any time it embarassing me and i cant focus on my work also 😢😢
Usually not just one infection. Usually many. Modulate immune system. Maybe use some herbs/meds. Peptides can quiet inflammation and are important to use. Dr Learner (late 90s-2010s) treated EBV high doses anti virals. Decent outcome. Tick borne disease and toxins can make it harder to heal and respond. We don’t know if EBV is reactivated or immune system is just responding to pieces of it. Ask doctor to run infectolab tests for EBV T cell elevation. High T cell could mean reactivation.
Thank you for this enlightening info!!!
I started on Amlexanox for MCAS in January 2020. It had an immediate positive effect on my life! I don't think many people with MCAS know about it, thank you for mentioning it.
Ivermectin is so dangerous! Local lady treated her husband and he declined so fast and has dementia now. Prisoners who got treated also got very sick. FLCCC protocols aren’t safe, not any better than shots. Neutral at best. Kory and company are bad actors, scam.
Great, I think holistic practices like Tai Chi and Qi Gong are the best exercises for our body, it has been dealing with correct body structure, breathing and consciousness including tongue position for centuries so actually centuries old.
What type of lab work do you recommend a person do to find out what is going on in there sinuses?
Hi Austin, this can all vary depending on the individual and their environment. Labs can range from blood work to check inflammatory markers and genetic makeup, imaging like MRI or CT, culture samples, or testing the home, and more. We recommend working with a physician who can do a thorough intake of your health history and order the right labs for you. If you're interested in working with a physician at GMA, you can book a discovery call with us: gordonmedical.com/discovery-call/
Read GAPS book by Dr Natasha McBride & swab nose with kimchi juice. I like the coconut oil idea with it. I personally do kimchi juice
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Thanks a lot for the very enlightning talk! Its great that you mention the correct timing, but this could be a struggle with regard to possibly left symptoms after treatment, e.g. in my case brain fog, and the need to wait for growth peptide use until the infection is solved as the question is, when this is the case. I am on this point, having EBV making trouble with my thyroid metabolism, and due to brain fog, I would like to use IGF-1 LR3 or other growth peptides, but at the same time, being afraid of supportively driving cancer processes with already missregulated cell metabolism (but also receptors for growth factors). I aimed to do a SOT therapy and afterwards use them, but the therapy isn't available in EU at the time, and thus I am still stuck with brain fog, being hesitant to use IGF-1 LR3 or growth peptides fearing cancer promotion. I am currious, about your thoughts about cancer promotion with these growth factors.
The treatments discussed in this video are general findings, additional specifics of treatment that could be good for you would have to be discussed directly with a doctor who is familiar with your case.
Thanks a lot for these very interesting talk! Do you have any experience, with MCAS, COVID Vaccination and a tumor afterwards - I guess this is an absolutely worst-case combination. I am very afraid regarding metastasis due to the underlying immune system problem. I was thus very grafteful for your recommendations about the peptides (I guess it was another video), but in this case the immune system is absolutely down as could be seen in the blood, but on the other site, it easly increases to much :-( Is SOT-Therapy to avoid metastasis a suitable idea or will there be problems with having MCAS? I am a little worried, as on your website you wrote, that the SOT is given with an antihistaminicum.... I was thinking about this, also besides looking for an underlying infection and also treating it with SOT. Do you also do online consultations, working with patients in EU?
We do online consults for people in Europe, but are limited to suggestions only, as we cannot order labs or prescribe. If you have a local doctor who is able to source what would be suggested, it may be doable. Other patients travel here for a period of time in order to get treatment jump started. You can get your questions about consults answered by scheduling a Discovery Call. gordonmedical.com/discovery-call/
One question can i Use bpc 157 arginate pure solution to drop in sinus, for chronic sinus infection
The treatments discussed in this video are general findings, additional specifics of treatment that could be good for you would have to be discussed directly with a doctor who is familiar with your case.
I felt certain neuron toxins attacking me in 2019 as I came back to LA and place where my kids were staying, I acutely felt something curling in my foot along with of course my neck half broken from where it all stemmed the protruding disk which had opened with all the shoving hit run mowing me off road going on without stopping relentless, vicious toxic and medical help not given on time, that is my 14 years of usa garbage in its full glorified toxicity targeted abuse.
Yes, i got it when i lived in a mold infested place. Still have. I have ysed, herbs and cut off sugar, i feel better but not gone. Isopropol alcohol has been a life save as it kills on contact i spray on sheets and on my skin and my dr. Recommended Ivermectin. I have tKen for two weeks. Seems to be helping. This is not just on the sking. Must be treated internally also.
I am stunned! You've described my situation to the letter! Broken main drain under my basement apt (rental), backed up plumbing, black mold visible in small area of bathroom floor (probably much more behind the wall), and all the symptoms of Morgellons. Stunned! Thank you for confirming I'm not crazy.
The transcript has called these peptide preparations all kinds of "sounds like" words. Could you amend this please.
Can you treat or help me ? Im in florida. Im really suffering and watching my life go by. I juat need relief to be able to see my kids.
We do work with patients out of state, you can discuss what is required for this with our new patient coordinator in a discovery call: gordonmedical.com/discovery-call/
I think your info is solid and you deserve more views .
This is caused from low stomach acid. Take Betaine HCL and make sure your hydrated.
So does this mean nervous system work can help?
My experience of reactivated EBV over years is that your throat is whitish/grey like a jigsaw with extreme pain sometimes out to your ear. You know when you have it.....
I cannot make out what Dr. Kory is saying after Ivermectin " Low dose ?????? " I just can't make out what he is saying ?
Low dose naltrexone
HE is speaking about Low Dose Naldreksone.=L D N..thats what HE is talking about..These TWO! are taken together for best quality results!!! GOOD HEALTH!!ToYou..
Lotta talk, not much useful info
Thanks for sharing this
Exactly, we were in a rental homes with sewer waste plumbing problems and flooded the basement and floors. Month later morgellons hit! Thought it was colembolla as well! We moved but still deal with all the co infections and live in hell
I'm in the same boat as you (kind of the perfect phrase). I have strong hopes that moving will begin to change things. But you haven't had that experience. Scares me to read you're not better. Prayers.
I know i have reactivated EBV from Chronic inflammatory response syndrome. I was hoping you might suggest specific solutions. This was disappointing...
Absolutely it was!! Waste!
The treatments discussed in this video are general findings, additional specifics of treatment that could be good for you would have to be discussed directly with a doctor who is familiar with your case. It is impossible to say over the internet what is causing your symptoms specifically and what treatment would suit your best. To work with one of our doctors, You can schedule a discovery call here: gordonmedical.com/discovery-call/
We need to get the prices down on these things so that these really sick people can afford a lot of people really bad sad thing you need to change this
How convenient did it takes so long to get FDA approval? I don’t recall that with the vaccine. Nobody really gives a shit if the FDA is approving anything anymore. It really doesn’t mean anything anymore.
Had like for years and I have mold component
How do I get Thymosin Alpha-1? I’ve watched a dozen videos on it, but it’s not clear how to go about getting it.
The best way is to work with a doctor who can recommend the correct dosage for you and tell you a trusted place to source it from.
Thanks a lot for this info. How do you use DSIP for sleep? Do you have it during the day or just before bed? From what you said peptides are not supposed to be used long term. Does the effect disappear once you stop them? (wondering about DSIP). Thanks again!
Is cerebral lysine a specific peptide or just your normal lysine in higher dosages ?
Does someone know a prescription-free source of Ivermectin in 12 mg. Tablets PLEASE??
What about Augmented NAC from Zerospike
My personal experience has linked it to Chinese synthetic fibers. My wife bought clothes and blankets from WISH and now Temu. I believe they weaponized these fibers. They sell Americans clothes and blankets for dirt cheap by way of these companies. Think about it... Everyone wears clothes. I was miserable for about a year. I put the connection together and got rid of any fibrous article from China. I got better. I let my guard down after a couple of years. My wife bought a blanket from Temu. The Chinese company that is pushed on Americans like crazy. Guess what? The fibers burning between my fingers was back. I believe the link is China.
In London the shops have clothes with summit flying off them maybe carpet beetles aka skin beetles tiny and ear thru fleas h taxidermy use them on small bins they want to strip flesh off if it’s mold more likely a bad slime mold fuligo septica means to rot sepsis Co could be either on perplexed lol 😅
I always noticed the fibers that come off clothes from there
Could you address dysautonomia and micro clots? Microclots were discussed with long covid. But venous insufficiency is common with hypermobility or other connective tissue disorders, however, many of us have ultrasound results that are not normal but yet show no outward symptoms nor is it something that the vascular dept can do anything about (since they only do surgeries). How does one tell they have microclots if tests dont show it? Same as small fiber neuropathies.
Dr Kunkle, you should contact Dr Anne Maitland who does research and treats patients with MCAS. In a video she mentioned that western medicine is arrogant about Chinese and Indigenous medicines. With your knowledge on chinese medicine, you and she might be able to find helpful treatments.
My PCP who says she is a functional dr, still is separating each of the triad...attempting to send me to specialists. Only problem is the immunology area covered by my insurance doesnt recognize MCAS. So are you Dr Kunkle saying that PCPs should be able to tackle the MCAS too? Hypermobile spectrum disorder is also a connective tissue disorder. Many of the connective tissue disorders are rarely diagnosed....than actually being a rare diagnosis.
Folks with thyroid issues should know that if they take a T3 hormone like Armour thyroid (natural pig thyroid vs a synthetic), a sneaky side effect of the T3 is a raised heart rate and symptoms that mimic POTS. (For myself, it happened over a 5 yr period...gradually, ever so slightly, I would get up from a location, 30 seconds later...I was feeling dizzy. Too much dizziness caused nausea, etc. I tend to have a low blood pressure so drs constantly told me to get up more slowly...and so I ignored it. So finally I realized that I was getting dizzy upon every 'elevation' change...walking up or down an incline in my yard, getting up/down when squatting when gardening or harvesting the garden. I made changes to how I did things so that the dizziness wouldnt be triggered. (This response was a direct result of the drs who kept ignoring my questions about dizziness.) I was technically diagnosed with POTS by a cardiologist...just through a positional test in his office taking blood pressure and measuring heart rate. The POTS medication wasn't working for me, so dr suggested taking 2 salt tabs (100mg) per day...this triggered my migraines thus a no-go. In one of the fb POTS grps, I asked some questions and someone mentioned the T3 rx. I asked my PCP, she said...yes the T3 I was taking....was one with this particular side effect. This would not have been caught because it happened so gradually. I also didn't feel a racing heart at any time. So just wanted to help alert ppl to this T3 side effect. My dr had me try taking other T3 meds, same result...the POTS symptoms came up again. I stopped taking the T3, the dizziness stopped immediately.
Where can we see the full talk?
So is the D-LDN out, and how has it been working?
I’d love to pull CranioSacral Therapy into this conversation about fascia. I have experienced mind-blowing fascial releases with CST. I do it for myself daily. Sometimes the release is emotionally cleansing too, in the best way. Fascia is the fiber optic network of Nature…transmitting light, sound, vibration, and frequency through a liquid light matrix that informs, nourishes, and protects us. Fascia responds to many forms of energy. Thanks for this enlightening conversation!
How do you do it yourself? Mind sharing some resources? Much appreciated!
How can one make an appointment with you? I have had sinus pressure, congestion, swollen turbinates, eye pressure, and git issues for years. It’s worsening, and unbearable at this point. How can I see you?
To work with one of our doctors, You can schedule a discovery call here: gordonmedical.com/discovery-call/
@@GordonMedicalAssociates 800hr to 1,000hr to speak with the doctors?????
Ldn is not making worse Lyme disease
The most powerful water structuring substance is not plant gel but is ghee.
How long before the benefit of KPV is felt please? I’m just about 2 -3 weeks in on 500 mg, so far no noted improvement.
I was about to order this. Did it start working for you ?
@@xicelinkx I'm afraid I haven't noticed a major change. Due to finances, I've just started started the second bottle recently- might need a few consistent months on it. Might look into LDN or Ketotifen. I hope it helps you.