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Iain MC
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2016
Smarter Engineering (Smarter, faster and better than the rest)
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Removing stubborn injectors without expensive tools
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Removal of stubborn diesel injectors from a 1.6Hdi. Applies to most injectors.
Renault Clio Mk2 windscreen washer motor replacement (the easy way)
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Smarter way of getting the windscreen washer replaced in the minimum amount of time and effort
wow thank you so much I have 3 of the injectors out and the same injector you struggled with is giving me problems. Will definitely try your method
I wish qll injectors were designed for a wrench to slip onto it like that. My Audi is a bitch with all round sides.
A1 advice, My Lexus Is 220D is chugging from one of the injectors...I will use this method....Regards...
If you screw bolts/holders of injectors they by therself pull injectors up,sometimes it,s easy way with them
Oven cleaner works great too
its a good tip for easy injectors. I've tried using a wrench and breaker bar attached, no movement at all. Also tried a slide hammer with no luck. Had to use a hydraulic puller and that still bent the 1/2" steel plate on my puller. I almost lost all hope, My injectors were very stuck. Had to use a thicker plate and they just barely came out. When it finally broke loose, it was a loud bang and was still tight all the way through. the injectors came out all intact and in working order. They were never removed for 220,000 miles.
Would this work on M9R engine
Great thank you☺️
Good tips. I made my own hammer tool. My issue is breaking the tar, but I think I have that sussed for the last injector I need out.
To be fair they were not stuck...
Had to remove a Citroen C4 engine with piloted gearbox to do clutch, timing belt, timing chain, etc. So, engine is dry, no diesel leaks or such. I soaked the injectors for two weeks on & off (been busy with other things) but STILL these will NOT come out!! No 1, 2 & 3 are turning, but cant get near 4 due to the proximity of the cam chain... I tried every which way, but they still refuse to move. Bought a Sealy slide hammer tool just for removing these type of injectors. However, the "hammer" part is very wide and unwieldy, so I swapped it for a friends one.... STILL stuck!!!! So I drilled a bit of box section, put chains & shackles and attached the lot to the engine crane. Suffice to say, the engine is currently hanging from injector No1 (remember the French count the cylinder nearest the flywheel as number one) and I have a massive blister (despite using welding gloves for protection) and am sitting here in pain, munching mini chedders and watching TH-cam video's on ways to get this bast@rd out :-) I have been fixing for years. I have every tool you can think of, I have a serious mig welder, I have a hydraulic spring compressor, hydraulic wheel skates for moving cars in the shop, pillar drill, several bench grinders, electric ratchets, air tools, etc, etc. I have pulled engines from turbo charged cars, V8's, V6 4 pot, 3 pot and 2 pot. I have rebuilt crashed and smashed cars... But THIS has got me gritting my teeth and digging in! I will NOT give up. I think it's time for hydraulics.... Which absolute teapot thought it would be a great idea to insert steel injectors into an aluminium head that gets very hot and not consider the removal of aforementioned injectors??? I'd love to introduce him to my left boot at a significant velocity.
A year late i know but I find myself in a similar situation, drinking coffee and just staring at the carnage i have created- i will not let this car beat me, even if it never sees the road again. Now considering removing head and wondering if i can press it out from underneath with my hydraulic press.
Brains beat brawn well done.
I had a stuck injector been there for days thourt the only way was a pulley but seen this video tryed it and worked straight away with out damaging anything else thanks for a good tip / video
Do the same with motor Renault 2 L dci ! if you do, you are the MAK of the Mak !
Tip - try filling the tank right to the top and testing before changing the pump.... These tanks look filled when they aren't.... guess who didn't
if the motor has gone would this stop the intermittence wiper motion as well as the water spraying out onto screen
I thought I'd have to take the wiper off. Thanks
Nice one mate:-)
I used carburettor cleaner. It is more "aggressive" in breaking down the carbonised gunk. I also experienced to screw off the tip of the injector which stayed in the head. Happy days.
dude just scrap this car... that engine looks terible :D
I just did this, with a slide hammer hose-clamped to the injector and help from another with a long rolling head pry bar applying strong upward force on the injector while slide-hammering it. I'm commenting this because no amount in "penetrating" oil in the universe would help in a case like mine and many others, "penetrating" oils are at the very best ridiculously overrated
Yep, if that works for you great.
A macanic once told me viniger I think he made a wel around injector with putty left it over night
That’s interesting.
Many praise WD40, carb cleaner and a vast etc. My praise go strait to oven cleaner. Nothing better to break down oily/carbon stuff. The latest my wife got in some supermarket. Green liquid stuff on a spray bottle. Reveal itself even better than the traditional spray cans of oven cleaner in foam form! Now to close this I've got some injectors, intake manifold, etc. waiting for some carbon removal... ;-) Cheers
Great job , thanks for sharing your video, definitely save a lot of money on labour costs and it’s great to be able to do things yourself, knowledge is power . 👍
Thank you, mine had smoke when i try to turn it on, then it was wet when i diassambled. I clean and grease it now it rocks :)
Doesn't work on Renault M9R.
Ben Harris. Every now and then there will always be a bitch one to get out. You have to turn to heat and other methods. Or of course splash out on the expensive tools. Persevere first though, because it works more than it doesn’t. Hope that helps.
Maybe use engine cleaner and wash things up prior to this job, so no small particles enter the engine.
I like this idea a lot, thank you.
Yeah but dont do it without injectors :D
@@Lordosvk please don't do it with injectors removed. lol . I did say do it "prior" to the job. I try to look out for the dumb ones, considering sometimes is me, too lol
How do you clean the bore where the injector sits and also where the copper seal sits without bits going into the hole ?
Best products to use according to a ~2015 research study I saw: Heat is best; Liquid Wrench is the best penetrating oil; then some others, maybe Kroil, I forget, WD is ok for the correct application, not a top tier penetrating oil though.
plusgas is probably the best money can buy WaterDispersant40 is absoulte shite for anything other than the bin
ein tag lassen im coca-cola,,ale rost lösen
Thomas suggested leave it for one day in Coca Cola and loosens the rust.
Try that on a 2.7 CRD Jeep
nice
Thank you very much , good vid informative, especially for some one like me with 5 thumbs
I am going to be doing this job tomorrow. You have saved me the hasle of having to remove blades etc. thankyou!
Any info please doing this myself tomorrow
@@alsykesuk838 I did it the exact way in the video worked a treat. Replaced it with a cheap unit at first and it didn't work well so replaced it with a genuine Renault unit and had no problems since. Front screen nearly goe over roof now
Nice one .....could also sacrifice a spanner by grinding off some of the head to allow a little wiggle room .
Nice video. I took off the front rocker cover and tried using a slender channel lock. I put everything back together because I was afraid of doing damage to something. But your WD40 gave me an idea. I used a mini steam cleaner to remove a wheel from an old riding lawn mower. It came off by hand in about 5 minutes. I guess I'll try again tomorrow. I have a RDV on Friday at Ford which is going to cost me 300€. It was done about 2 years ago....
How to remove copper washer? It's still at the bottom. Used a piece of bent copper wire, didn't help
bhvm333 Normally the copper washer is stuck into the injector. In the case it is stuck in the bottom you can try these things. 1. Put the injector back in partially and move side to side to make the washer loose enough. It may be stuck to some carbon. 2. Put the injector back in all the way, twist, and the washer may stick better to the injector when pulling out. 3. Use the tube of a vacuum pump, the type that you use to extract engine oil. Put the tube to the bottom and pump the handle of the pump to creat a vacuum. This will suck onto the washer and you can lift it out. 4. If these fail then try putting heat into the area and try expanding the copper. Then try picking it out with bent copper rod or similar. Try these ideas first.
@@iainmc2280 Thanks for the Inputs Ian. I have currently soaked the washer in WD40 and will let it settle overnight. The injector was quite stuck and I used the rocking motion as shown in video very carefully for a good 15 mins. If that did'nt loosen the washer, I don't think putting injectors again will. Lets hope for wd40. Or I will try a bent Copper wire again. I also tried a bent steel wire before and it latched to something below the washer (Looks like there is a lip or ring there) and got stuck. Had to craftily pull it out so a bit scared. Certainly there is lot of carbon as I am fixing a compression leak (Leak is pretty new. Maybe 15 mins runtime). On These TATA-Delphi-AVL Engines, Washer sits very loosely on injector and falls down just by tipping to gravity.
Also, Ian, What would be a good way to let the engine turn over without actually firing? Because I want to Bleed the diesel lines and let all the diesel reach the injectors and return line before connecting the injector electrically. Earlier we did this by electrically disconnecting all 4 injector plugs. But this time I am working on only 1 injector.
If you are extremely careful with high pressure fuel and pipes, and work safely, I can’t see any problem with turning the engine over for a short time. It may leak some fuel at low pressure. I can’t stress enough the safety because spray from the injectors will pierce skin and can be lethal. If there’s no injector attached to the pipe then it will be fairly low pressure spillage. Might be worth a go. The washer may fly out anywhere though. Be careful and stay safe.
A good way of turning over the engine without firing would be to disconnect the fuel pump relay, or turn over by hand with no ignition on.
Straightforward! Thank you.
if you open up the motor pipes there is a non return valve clean it and the washers will work if the motor runs
My one diesel injector is blocked .How can I repair it?
They could be cleaned with an acetone bath and wire brush if you want to try that. It is likely that it’s a carbon buildup at the nozzle. But the honest answer is if that doesn’t work just replace it. You can take it to a repair specialist but for what it’s worth I’d just replace it. The problem is these parts work with minute tolerances, and even one grain of dirt is enough to damage them. They may also be worn parts. I wouldn’t bother stripping it down either because there may be very small shims that could fall out and render it useless. You would need exceptional good eyesight to even work on these. Second hand reconditioned injectors could be better value on the major auction sites.
I did this but the pump works but no water is coming out when i tested ..help
It’s probably a blocked pipe, or blocked jet. Make sure you put the pipes on the right way round too.
If no water comes out when complete and the motor works properly it must be either of the following. 1. No water in tank, 2. Blocked pipe or fitted wrong way round on pump. (Separate each pipe ensuring jet is disconnected and blow air through in both directions to clear). If you can’t clear the blockage replace the pipe concerned. 3. Make sure pipes are on the right way round. 4. Blocked jets ( remove pipe from jet and turn on washer. If a good flow of water and nothing or a dribble when connected it’s a blocked jet. Either clear it by poking a needle and air pressure in reverse direction OR replace with new jet.
Yes, Ian! Spent well over an hour trying to take out #3 injector on a 206cc 1.6 hdi. This method definitely works! Soaked the well with wd40 twice and left it overnight. It took me 5 minutes to easily get the bugger out the morning after. Patience and a bit of wellie is all it needs. Great little video pal.
Simon, Super job. I will get round to some more videos later this year.
warm engine fluid and twisting with haner then with hands worked ! i practicaly tooked it out by hands, at start it wasnt moving at all ; 2005 w211, 2.2cdi another thing now bothers me how to properly clean that deep hole, :\
B. Saulius To clean the deep hole. Use a hand vacuum pump, the type for removing engine oil. Use the thin tube and pump this hard and create a good vacuum. This will suck a lot of loose dirt and fluids very nicely for you.
@@iainmc2280 How about an old toothbrush? Soaked in WD40.
Thank you for this video. I just replaced my daughter's Clio washer pump in double quick time.
Robert Blay Great to hear
Did this on a Vectra recently and took over 45mins to get the bugger out and had to reseat it after a major clean down from the leaking injector been careful not to get any crap in the chamber. All this in the pouring down rain with just a cover over the bonnet to try keep us dry. The things we do for our cars hey? 🤔🤔
That’s what I call tough, rough and just enough engineering. You stuck at it and succeeded. Well done.
Thanks. lain MC
I use an old tent groundsheet, with taut bungees to secure it as a waterproof shelter when working in the rain. It’s that good I use 240v lighting beneath so I could have great visibility.
Thinking of investing in a pop up gazebo and some decent led lighting 😊
yojo mojo I thought about that too. But the cheap gazebos are cxxp, and the expensive ones are too good, and deserve to be next to the BBQ.If I had money to burn I’d get a good one. LED lights are the way ahead though.
Absolutely love the fact that even with the motor squirming about you didn't give up on the one handed approach. 👍 Good vid.
Lol, I laugh about that myself. I should have invested in an assistant or a stand. But I persevered instead. 👍
I've seen just about every way of removing those bloody injectors. Nobody mentions how to clean the port without all this crap falling inside. Any good ideas?
What I did was I used one of these oil changer hand pumped vacuum pumps. You insert the thin tube that you would have put down the dipstick if you were removing oil, but instead put that down the port. I would then pump the handle and the vacuum created would suck all the oil, dirt and grime into the tube. It effectively works like a vacuum cleaner with a very thin tube. It is very effective.
@@iainmc2280 Great idea. Some sort of a container with two tubes entering from the top. I'll connect one to a vacuum instead of a pump, for better effect and use the other to suck all dirt into the container. Thanks :)
My trick was fill it with carb cleaner, let it soak up all the carbon and bullshit, and then turn the engine over and blow the shit straight out from the compression
Best penetrating fluid? Acetone.
I did mine 2 day and this one is the one I carnt get out. I wish I had tried this method
why this asshole use them fucked up fonts??
58 dislikes would be like? a) petrolheads b) mecha dealers or c) girls who was waching face make ups and suddenly teleported here
This was easy deal! You could not do it if you have a bigger problems without special tool
@@kravalisr like my old man said: all u need is a hammer
Hi from Whitestone city Oamaru, New Zealand. Hey thanks for showing your struggle. I have a massive problem with my heap of a jeep wrangler 2.8 c.r.d #4 firewall injector which refused to even move using my custom made 7.50kg slide hammer. Anyway I will use P.b blaster or Kroil penetrating oil which is recognized as the ducks nuts in oil. O.k tip for you. Pull out injectors every 40.000 km and change the copper seating washer and put nickle or copper anti seize around injector body. This advice is from jeeps engine maker but not given to public or disclosed. I found this out by a huge amount of digging... Carl
conmanumber1 Thanks Carl, sounds like an interesting project you have there. Nice to see I’m reaching Oamaru, NZ. Thanks for sharing the tip, Iain
Best products to use according to a ~2015 research study I saw: Heat is best; Liquid Wrench is the best penetrating oil; then some others, maybe Kroil, I forget, WD is ok for the correct application, not a top tier penetrating oil though.