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Rob van Haarlem
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 1 ก.พ. 2015
WATER ORGAN ANIMATION 2
HYDRAULIS 2 is an extended version of "HYDRAULIS" from 2019. New topics are the mechanism to play the instrument and the Latin and Greek names of the parts according to Vitruvius. In order to make the information accessible I avoided typical organ terms and musical concepts: an interested High School student for instance should be able to understand the information without problems.
The principle of a hand-operated lever mechanism to operate a musical instrument was a groundbreaking invention, from which all keyboard instruments have descended. In turn they made the creation of a huge collection of music for organ, harpsichord, piano and the later digital keyboard possible. Briefly: Without the invention of Ktesibios the Moonlight Sonata would probably not exist.
I hope you enjoy the animation.
New projects are the Medieval Organ and the Origin of our Musical Scale, highlighting the part the Hydraulis played in its development.
On my website ROBVANHAARLEM.COM the existing text about the history of the Hydraulis will in time be replaced by a more extensive text on the history and the role of the Museion and Library of Alexandria in its development.
For practical reasons HYDRAULIS 2 will be published only in english.
The principle of a hand-operated lever mechanism to operate a musical instrument was a groundbreaking invention, from which all keyboard instruments have descended. In turn they made the creation of a huge collection of music for organ, harpsichord, piano and the later digital keyboard possible. Briefly: Without the invention of Ktesibios the Moonlight Sonata would probably not exist.
I hope you enjoy the animation.
New projects are the Medieval Organ and the Origin of our Musical Scale, highlighting the part the Hydraulis played in its development.
On my website ROBVANHAARLEM.COM the existing text about the history of the Hydraulis will in time be replaced by a more extensive text on the history and the role of the Museion and Library of Alexandria in its development.
For practical reasons HYDRAULIS 2 will be published only in english.
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このアニメーションは、史上最古のパイプオルガンの操作を初めて示しています。 オルガンは「HYDRAULIS」と呼ばれていました。 2300年前にエジプトの町「アレキサンドリア」で発明されました。 発明者の名はギリシャ人エンジニア「KTESIBIOS」。 この水を動力源とするパイプオルガンは、地中海世界でほぼ千年の間非常に人気がありました。 それは宮殿、円形競技場、その他の公共の場所で音楽を作りました。 その期間の後、は絶滅し、姿を消した。 このビデオのより精巧なバージョンを準備しています。 詳細:www.robvanhaarlem.com...
L'ORGANO DI ACQUA
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Questa animazione mostra per la prima volta il funzionamento dell'organo a canne più antico della Storia, chiamato Hydraulis. Fu inventado nel III secolo a.C. ad Alessandria, una cittá greco in Egitto, da un ingegnere greco de nome Ctesibio. Questo organo ad acqua divenne molto popolare nel mondo Romano e fu sonato in palazzi e anfiteatri. Dopo mille anni si estinse nel IX secolo. Una versione ...
EL ORGANO HIDRAULICO
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An animation showing for the first time the operation of the oldest pipe organ in history, called the Hydraulis, It was invented in the 3th century BC in Alexandria by a greek engineer by the name of Ktesibios. This water-powered organ became very popular in the Mediterranean world and was played in palaces and amphitheatres. After a thousand years it became extinct in the 9th century AD due to...
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Deze animatie laat de werking zien van het eerste orgel uit de geschiedenis, de HYDRAULIS, ontworpen in de 3e eeuw voor Chr. in Alexandrië door een griekse wetenschapper genaamd Ktesibios. Dit orgel, werkend op waterdruk, werd heel populair in het gebied rond de Middellandse Zee en werd bespeeld in paleizen en amphitheaters. Na duizend jaar verdween dit bronzen instrument in de 9e eeuw als gevo...
How did they prevent the water from overflowing?
excellent what kind of seal did the pistons use against the chamber walls?
That's unknown. Probably leather on the pistons and / or grease on the walls. There are no clues in the historical material.
This is a Uilleann bagpipe, but using a water column instead of muscles to keep the pressure constant, and whistles instead of reeds to generate the sound.
thank you for this video! i heard mention of a water organ in passing and went to look up how they worked, but couldn't find a very good explanation anywhere. this video scratched that itch perfectly!
Free reed organs work similar storing some pressure from the foot pedals for consistent sound.
頭の良い人っているもんですね。
Thank you for writing me something. But do it please in English so I can understand.
Thank you TH-cam algorithm
Imagine using structured water from a Sacred spring underneath a church… that would be bliss
Merci pour cette animation, c'est super intéressant :)
Merci!
Wonderful! We will use it in our Orgelkids presentations. Thank you.
Well done! An excellent step by step explanation on how the grand-daddy of all organs works. It looks like the water systems don't provide any direct power, but they store the air pressure energy and make the air pressure even as opposed to directly pumping the air without the water systems. It looks like they put a lot of effort into making the organ more musical sounding. It is very ingenious. With our 21st century hindsight I think they were very close to inventing the steam engine! Imagine that! We'd all be speaking Italian. The manufacturing for seals etc was probably good enough. Did they have metal pipes? They would just have to make the leap of capturing steam and collecting piston energy with a shaft. Maybe there was just one inventor genius guy and he was just interested in music and even if he could envision a steam engine he didn't find it interesting. Anyways, great video. It opened my eyes. Are you going to try to build one of these water organs?
I'm glad you liked the video. About the metal pipes: almost the complete organ was made of bronze, including the pipes. About the inventor: Ktesibios did work on his Hydraulis at the "University" of Alexandria where he studied, so he had the helping hand of some of the greatest scientists of that time, possibly even of Archimedes. I would of course like to reconstruct a hydraulis, but I'am afraid that such a project is very expensive and time-consuming. Moreover: The hydraulis is not only the grand-daddy of all organs, but in fact the ancester of all keyboard-driven instruments because Ktesibios invented the use of a key to make a sound. Just 2200 years ago.
Thank you for kind explanation. Regarding organ, ''オルガン" is better than ''臓器".
Muchas gracias por esto, nuevo suscriptor y like y favoritos
love it!!
Splendid-brilliant -excellent : a lot of light inside this conspicuous topic. Thanks !
St Cecilia dragged me here
I'am glad she did.
That's very interesting. They used the hydraulic system to stabilise the air pressure being used to feed the sound pipes. Simple, but genius. If you were to supply the sound pipes directly from the pumps, you'd get air pressure fluctuations every time air was pushed out of the cylinders into the body of the organ.
You are absolutely right. It took the organ builders in Western Europe about 800 years to develop a mechanical system with bellows just as good.
There's nothing wrong with that and can be used for tremolo effect. Also it's actually not an issue as long as your slaves pump properly in sync. The main issue is didn't have as powerful a sound when they went to straight air.
Hello ! The video is a very enlightening, where do you find the sheet music of brother john ?
You can't find it anywhere. I made it myself, to help the viewers understand.
Thank you for the explanation! Very well done!
Thank you for this reaction.
I was desperately searching for an explanation as to how these work after discovering them on a 2am youtube binge. Bless you
Glad it was usefull.
The guy who made this probably sucks at organ
Cool, I didn't know about this "unchangeable system" thing
Thank you for the explanation! 👍🎹🎼
My pleasure. Glad you liked it. I wonder if you looked at the more elaborate version : Hydraulis 2 th-cam.com/video/5D-xMANSL1w/w-d-xo.html
Ik heb een vraag die mij al een tijd bezig houd. En poosje geleden was ik in gesprek met een persoon over orgel pijpen stemmen. Die persoon vertelde mij dat deze pijpen worden gestemt door middel van een zogenaamde 'stemkrul'. Is deze bewering waar of wordt ik in de maling genomen?
Het is helemaal waar. Het geldt alleen niet voor alle pijpen; vooral kleine pijpen worden anders gestemd en tongwerken ook.
You literally did not show how the air movies. LMFAO
He did tho
nice explenation! thanks.
Glad you liked it.
here's a great video of somebody playing one... th-cam.com/video/US50QmZaeyE/w-d-xo.html
So it's an air organ powered by water pressure!
That's right!
I was going to say, this is a Uilleann bagpipe, but using a water column instead of muscles to keep the pressure constant, and whistles instead of reeds to generate the sound.
Water in 1:30
Why not just use bellows.
The Greek made also a cheap version of the extremely expensive HYDRAULIS, named PNEUMATIKON. It was made of wood, where the H. was made of bronze, and was powered by two bellows. It was a small instrument.
@@robvanhaarlem6706 Thank you, I thought there had to be a simpler engineering solution and according to Julius Pollux it seems the more complex system was associated with the size of the instrument, after some searching I found this statement : "A complicated water-driven system for air supply was gradually replaced by bellows; nevertheless, the name hydraulis was retained for the organ until the Middle Ages."
Looks kind of like a cylinder in a gas or steam engine. How many steps is it away from a boiler with heated water sending pressure the other way and moving the piston back and forth and motorizing the levers? Were they aware of this back then and just lacked the materials necessary to deal with the pressure/heat?
around 1st century AD there already existed a sort of a steam engine called Aeolipile. there are no records of it being put to practical use though. perhaps slave or animal labor was so abundant in rome at that time that there was no sense of prospective advantage in such invention. one of the hypothetical reasons on why chinese civilization stagnated was its constant surplus of human labor which resulted in little opennes to technological innovation. perhaps a parallel phenomenon took place in rome. anyway, implications of such an invention being put to actual use in roman times would be profound. rome was already great at infrastructure, so after creating a steam engine they could come up with railroad which could introduce another level of governance, economic progress and warfare.
It would be a very long time after the Romans until steel could be made in large enough amounts (if tat all) to create a pressure vessel. They may have recognized the ability of heat to create pressure, but getting a piston to return where it came from would be difficult, and blacksmithing a piston to fit in a chamber would be impossible. The Romans also did not have access to coal except very late in their existence and only in the distant colony of England.
@@cheetoman23 they could make finer mechanisms by filing or through the use of a primitive Lathe. Proof of this is the antikythera mechanism.
@@tfist apparently the guy who made the aeolipile also designed a device which could open doors. From what I understand vapor is generated in a chamber and flows through a pipe to another chamber full o water, the water them flows to a bucket which comes down and open the gates. This design would totally work in the place of the pistons of the organ. There is no evidence it was ever built though.
You should ask them
Any acadec people here?
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gracias!!
美味しそうですね
Thank you!
Fascinating
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Gracias por compartirlo. Es realmente hermoso!
¡Congratulations Rob! I study computer science and understanding the functioning of a musical organ is key to understanding a computer. Saludos desde México
That’s really interesting! How so?
@@iriscecil8605 Very interesting! mmm I think I made a drawing of the historical relationship between music and computing, do you have something where I can send it? instagram, fb, email? Understanding it graphically would be ideal
Thank you very much, helped me a lot in a job.
Glad I could help you!
It's understandable and enjoyable.I will examine it step by step.Thank you Mr. Van Haarlem
I'm glad you enjoy it. Thank you for your reaction.
This is insane.
on a dit il est le premier orgue de l'Occident dont Constatin V offre un exemplaire à Pépin
Ce n'est pas correct. Pepin a reçu un "PNEUMATIKON". Il s'agit d'une version en bois bon marché de l'HYDRAULIS en bronze, qui était équipée de deux soufflets réguliers. Plus d'informations à ce sujet dans un futur article sur mon site : robvanhaarlem.com.
That's brilliant. Thank you for your work
Glad you enjoy it!
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grazie
Thank you, Rob van Haarlem for this interesting demonstration of the physics and physical operation of the Hydraulis. Pls. send me an email address to cortjohns@yahoo.com and I'll send you a .pdf of my latest book 'starring' the Hydraulis over its 2,000-year journey from the Hellenistic Period to the Steam Engine prototypes designed and built by Denis Papin and mentored by the Polymath, G.W. Leibniz. (cortmacleanjohns.com)
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so they used water to store wind much like the organs of today have reservoirs with springs and weights?
That's correct. But it took us almost 1000 years to have the wind supply as smooth as the greeks had 2200 years ago!
@@robvanhaarlem6706 dark age rlly screwed us over 😭
wow
Brilliant.