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Tobias Forge of Ghost on Satan, Religion, and Belief (Interviews).
There seems to be some debate as to what Tobias personally believes, so I pulled from a bunch of different interviews where he talks about his own personal relationship with "Satan," his views on organized religion, and belief.
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Paradise Lost Stage One - Denial (Without Commentary)
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There are two paths you can take in this level and I show the second one at the end.
He rightfully mocks the corrupt Roman Catholic Church.. they’re not Christianity. Some of The most corrupt history known to man has been the Roman Catholic Church
Hail Satan hail ghost and most of it HAIL TOBIAS
There’s no difference in the biblical devil and the pop cultural devil. This dude may be a good entertainer and a talented individual but he’s lost as a goose in regards to eternal salvation. When I listen to his words I hear lack of control. He talks about “freedom” in place of self control. He calls religious people “shitty.” He calls himself a “satanist.” He has a deep-rooted hatred for Christianity, specifically. Believe me, he knows what he’s doing but hey … it’s his soul. Free will, right? 🤷🏻♂️
I so hope Tobias is right in what he says about these apocalyptic times. Everything seems so bleak. Writing this just after trump’s assassination attempt and the trump train is running straight to the White House. Very very scary prospect. I hope he is right to be optimistic ❤
The little kid interviewing T is real listening and engaged. Adult journalists could learn a thing or two from him!
The devil isn't a rock n roll icon. He tempts people to run human trafficking rings and drop bombs on children...
Dudes a moron
There is no God, there is no satan
No matter the organization, people will find a way to ruin it. If Satan becomes more popular to idolize, then in his name truly awful things people would do too. Because they don't think, or want to. Also it is a shame that people are lost in matters of the heart and soul, I can't say I have found the answers, but I feel sad for who has been hurt. Facing that kind of rejection is horrible.
The devil is real, hell is hot and eternity is long. Make your choice people and live and die with the consequences. Anyone who decides not to trust in the living God but instead put their faith and trust in this idiot Forge is quite simply a fool…
Haven't you ever heard that "he's" a deceiver. Sounds alot like "do what thou wilt"
What is funny to me is all the self proclaimed Christians here who say they have no problem with band and this man's philosophy. He clearly states that he is a humanist and and rejects Christianity and that feeling good / doing whatever make you happy is his ethic above all else. He knows better than God. Remember pride was the Lucifer's crime. Then in next breath he says he is not a Satanic in the Biblical sense. On the contrary that is exactly what he is. So I don't think the Christians and Catholics here know what they believe, or understand it. That is fine if you don't believe and want to do things your own way then leave the church and follow this man. Believing in a religion means understanding and following it's tenants. So if you examine them and don't agree then leave. Open rebuke is better than secret love. Make no mistake about it this man is full of pride and is law unto himself and holds himself to no moral law outside of himself. That is Satanic by its very nature. I reject this in its entirety.
Parece increible que este chico tan tranquilo y dulce se transformr en un escenario como lo hace es magistral❤❤
Copia yo creo que es el alter ego de tobias ❤
Eres una estrella y un líder nato tobias por eso te tienen envidia❤
Comment number 666 🤘🏼🔥
Humans are Amazing. Tobias is a perfect example of this. 💙💙💙💙🔥🔥🔥🔥
It sucks. I love god and am a catholic, but just because you have a bad childhood with Christian’s, I don’t think it’s ok to mock Christianity, but I ask god to forgive this man, and pray that he finds god. I do have to admit though, his music is good.
"I'm an optimist misanthropical hater of mankind" hahahaha yeah, me too
I love how he speaks so intelligently and English is not his first language
On stage he has a accent but in interviews he has none
friendly wake up reminder: Satan doesn't care if you worship him, his job is to turn you away from GOD. You worshipping anything other than GOD is a win for him. You can worhip these decievers, celebrities, man made religions heck you can worship yourself! guess what it makes no difference you'll end up downstairs with him.
Stick a fork in me I’am done!!! My daughter has been a huuuge fan of Ghost for my years now and we went to see their movie tonight because my daughter was iat the LA concert and she was in it, I couldn’t believe how seductive this guy is on stage! I was blown away! Help me Rhonda lol!
I’m Christian. I have different beliefs. But one thing is for sure. GHOST IS AWESOME AND I LOVE THE BAND SM :D
everyone's a Christian till its time to repent
Interesting statement. Please elaborate @@martinvarela9274
Theologically, philosophically, and sociologically shallow. But don't tell my man, I don't think he knows. He has an aura about him that leads me to believe he seems himself as edgy, deep, and different. Oh, the irony. Ask questions, folks.
@ConcernedGeorge never liked Aerosmith
Luciferis his favorite angel
He does have some good points..
How can one man be so based
what about islam ? Tobias have you ever studied about it
Tobias Tobias Tobias believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you'll be Save. Amen.
I can see the light shining in his soul.
Oh man. I wish he realized who Satan really is. Humor, rock n roll, and freedom isn’t it. Satan is the vessel of darkness, depression, fear, despair, hate, oppression, loneliness, and eternal misery. He isn’t this misunderstood witty anti hero like he wants you to believe he is. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life.
Satan is a fictional character, so he’s whatever we want him to be
@@uhlan30 He’s definitely not a fictional character.
This pretty much spells put exactly why Ghost/Tobias' lyrics make absolutey zero theological sense, and also inadvertently why he is so casually blasphemous. As someone who loves the music of Ghost, I've always been incredibly disappointed with the laziness of the lyrics. Pretending "the devil" is simply misunderstood is intellectually dishonest at best, and abysmally immoral at worst. The louder your voice becomes the more responsibility you automatically and justifiably assume to the people around you. As an aside, there is no singular figure or entity in the old or new Testaments that encapsulates what is commonly associated with "Satan" or the "Devil" in popular western culture. That is to say, secular culturr has unsurprisingly completely misunderstood the Bible due to lack of reading and critical thinking, and of course not consulting people who dedicate their lives to its study and preservation of history. Anyway, at the end of the day there is no justification imaginable for writing a lovely little pop song and then in the chorus inserting the most blasphemous disgusting thing possible, aka insinuating Mary the mother of Christ is masturbating with a crucifix, the symbol of her son's/God's death and ultimate sacrifice. Its not cute, its not the same as AC/DC singing about casual sex, its straight up disgusting and abhorrent on every conceivable level. And in a secular sense what is even worse is how unnecessary it is in the song. Somehow Tobias missed the part in the Black Metal scene where all the "cool kids" grew up and started worshipping God's creation (aka nature worship) instead of actively worshipping evil.
“Blasphemy” lol. This isn’t the Dark Ages. This isn’t even the 1950s. We should be past caring about things like “blasphemy” by now.
Lol. Saying Tobias isn’t critically thinking while typing that garbage is peak irony
You just said that the Old Testament does not have a single entity called Satan, which is true. hasatan is not even evil - it is simply an adversary. Yet, you say Ghost worships evil? Make up your mind! Ghost is adversarial, true - adversarial to the fundamentalist, controlling, versions of religion. Yet, there is no indication of evil, no 'worship of evil'. There is rock, there is theatre, there is fun, and there are huge sold-out stadium concerts that seem to indicate that their version of pop-culture Satan is still pretty cool, and there is no need to grow up at all. But there is one other thing that you totally missed, that I think is of primary importance in response to your diatribe: neither Tobias nor his fans give a single flying fuk about your opinion on whether Ghost is evil or not, other than to be sad for you being caught up in a preoccupation with some fantasy evil when the world has some real human- made evil in it.
I love how smart and great that young kid will be an amazing journalist when they grow up, and I love how great, amazing and sweet Tobias was to that adorable little child ❤ Tobias Forge no matter what always does amazing at interviews ❤ Edit I also love all of Ghost's costumes and masks, I always think that all of them is awesome. Ghost has never ever made a song that I didn't love, basically I'm saying all of Ghost songs are magical, and all of the music that I heard from Ghost was love at first listen ❤❤❤❤❤❤
He gets it. I love Tobias.
Feel free to continue supporting this lost soul 😅
Why is he lost tho?
Somehow he believes that Satan is the 'Holy' one, bravo !
okay we will! ❤️
@ConcernedGeorge the fuck would you know ?
I love Ghost❤
Bruh. There is no such thing as Satan. 😂
Yup, I also don't think Satan exists, he's probably Pan with a twist but it doesn't mean people can't take some sort of character traits and twist them into something that can be beneficial to humanity and to ones development. Idk
People who claim to be a satanist fall into one of two categories. They're either a liberal who's trying to be edgy. Someone without a personality who thinks that's a substitute. Or they're someone who genuinely worships satan (and is seriously mentally ill). This guy is the first. Very cringe.
Jesus he’s a fucking dweeb 😂
".. Satan himself transformeth himself into an angel of light" ...as do his followers (2 Corinthians 11:14)
And as it tracks the devil also encompasses self indulgence, vice, and hedonism. He encompasses evil. He encompasses self gratification. He is the exact antithesis of good. The antithesis of God. You are a slave unto yourself and your desires. You live for no great purpose. You are devoid and empty of anything resembling “good”.
I know I sound like I'm preaching. I am of the Christian faith and I actually like some of Ghost's music. I'm not a hypocrite. Unfortunately many Christians are hypocrites. I don't believe that you have to get all dressed up in a suit and tie and sit there and be quiet. I honestly have little knowledge of Catholicism which seems to be Tobias Forge's subject matter. When I was a young boy and also a teenager as a Christian not a Catholic, I did not get a sense of sadness or being held in chains or whatever by the GOD and I left Church services feeling very elated within and had a very good outlook on life. I am now in my late 50s and I just feel that Tobias Forge is an extremely intelligent person and a very good musician and even though I am of the Christian faith, if anyone reads a modern translation of the Holy Bible and really thinks about who Jesus really was and IS, they would find that Jesus was exactly like Tobias Forge in the way that when Jesus was alive on this Earth he despised all the good doers in the synagogues. These people would go to these services in the synagogues or what have you and leave very happy but extremely filled with self pride and look down upon those that needed help and we're hungry and they would show off how rich they were and how stinking snotty they were towards those that were in need and very unhappy with their lives and starving. These were the people of the "Church" of that time and Jesus despised those people and spread a message of being free from those people. Just as Tobias Forge feels that there are those that are in the Christian faith are exactly the same way. I myself would have no problem going to a Church service wearing a Ghost t-shirt! No BS! There are so many people that have been misled and have allowed themselves to twist within their own minds what Christianity truly is and really it only takes just yourself and a modern translation of the Holy Bible and meditation and prayer sitting in your room in silence and trying to draw out all of the good in the world instead of looking at bands like Ghost and other bands throughout the time that were scorned for being satanists. I actually like Tobias Forge and I would love nothing more than to sit down and just chat with him about anything. Doesn't have to be about music or doesn't have to be about the Church or whatever. I like to go to a ball game with Tobias Forge and just have a good time. Deep inside I believe Tobias Forge is a genuinely good person but he's also a Showman. He is a unique person and I really don't think he's all that complex. He like many that came from the Catholic Church such as comedian George Carlin who is my favorite comedian, also came from being brought up in a Catholic Church, hated organized religion so much but as a follower of the Christian faith, I see an inner true God in these people. Try to compare Tobias Forge with Charles Manson. Now there was a sick, evil MF! Just as an example. I don't believe that Tobias Forge would have approved of the life of Charles Manson or Anton LaVey the supposed author of the satanic bible. Even though these are all real people, they just choose to put on a show. Just like the rock band Kiss who was so "demonic" back in the day. The original members of that band were just four Jewish guys from New York who had an idea to shock people. Shake up the system a little bit and have fun. That's all that Ghost is about. Shaking up the system and more or less play music on stage in a theatrical set of a movie. And once again the music is just the soundtrack.
Ghost isn't a really bad band whatsoever as far as their music and sound goes. Tobias Forge is of course the main Force to the whole thing but THE GOD is a creator. The devil can only imitate. GOD represents good. Satan, the devil, whatever you want to call it, represents bad and negativity So I believe Tobias Forge and so many others that have come and gone in the musical Spotlight and movies, books and whatever that would say they are part of a satanic cult or put on dark concerts as anti-Catholicism is is just a show. The music is the soundtrack. That's it.
I would agree with the sentiment if it wasn't said that Satan was in fact created by God. Lol
You will be in hell when you die andyou will scream out for Jesus
I actually go with his opinions a lot.
Devil = good! Yes. Yes.
I get the idea of satanism, but it does not work. So many contradictions. Prove me wrong!
Tenent 6: Every tenent is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over written or spoken word. My comment: All people have different world views on what this means and this seems to serve separation and conflict. Guiding principles of our Lord Jesus guide us in the areas in life that we are lost in. Again satanism is BULLSHIT
Tobias you are so terrible. Kids???