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The secret lullabies of Brahms
Most people know Brahms’ Wiegenlied (“lullaby”)-it’s one of the most famous themes in all of classical music. But did you know that Brahms wrote two “secret” sets of lullabies?
This video explores the intertextuality between Schumann and Brahms-how a discarded piece from Kinderszenen became the genesis for some of Brahms' greatest works.
Performers and timestamps:
0:00 Wiegenlied, Op.49 No.4, Danz/Deutsch
0:28 Symphony No.2, Op.73 Mvt.I, Rattle/Berlin Philharmonic
0:48 Waltzes, Op.39 No.15, Julius Katchen
1:24 Bunte Blätter, Op.99 Albumblätter No.5, Youri Egorov
2:11 Ballades, Op.10 No.2, Michelle Cann
2:53 Piano Quartet No.2, Op.26 Mvt.II, Kopelman/Shebalin/Berlinsky/Richter
3:19 Cello Sonata No.1, Op.38 Mvt.I, Mørk/Lagerspetz
3:50 Intermezzos, Op.117 No.1, Radu Lupu
5:16 Wiegenlied, Op.49 No.4, Danz/Deutsch
5:51 Klavierstücke, Op.118 No.5, Julius Katchen
6:11 Klavierstücke, Op.119 No.1, Radu Lupu
6:24 Violin Sonata No.2, Op.100 Mvt.I, Perlman/Ashkenazy
7:01 Lieder, Op.105, No.1 Prégardien/Eisenlohr
7:12 Piano Concerto No.1, Op.15 Mvt.II, Lupu/de Waart, London Philharmonic Orchestra
7:45 Piano Concerto No.2, Op.83 Mvt.III, Zimerman/Bernstein
8:11 Duets, Op.28 No.3, Irányi/Volle
8:26 Symphony No.2, Op.73 Mvt.II, Rattle, Berlin Philharmonic
8:50 Clarinet Sonata No.1, Op.120 No.1 Mvt.I, Karl Leister, Ferenc Bognár
9:06 Intermezzos, Op.118 No.2, Lars Vogt
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  • @DrBeroSP
    @DrBeroSP 50 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    The Lullaby Motif was a rich vein that Brahms mined for many gems. In additiion to the ones you featured, another one of my favorites is the melody of the Trio of the Scherzo movement of the Piano Trio No. 1.

  • @pulsar2049
    @pulsar2049 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Glad I wasn't only the on that thinks Brahm's waltz sounds similar to his lullaby.

  • @RiccardoFaggi
    @RiccardoFaggi 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Extremely interesting analysis of some works by the great Brahms! Good job!👏🏻

  • @sasha_sokol
    @sasha_sokol 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Last movement of Mahler 3!? Considering how the first movement's opening also references Brahms...

  • @micheasz2552
    @micheasz2552 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    7:45 its also worth noting, that Brahms uses almost the same motif in the beginning of his song ,,Immer leiser wird Mein Schlummer" - ,,My sleep grows ever quieter". Also very lullaby-like!

  • @paolomartinelli3119
    @paolomartinelli3119 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Op. 56a - Finale.

  • @turtle945
    @turtle945 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Brahms was a professional napper

  • @afifi21
    @afifi21 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wow, I never realized how often these motifs occur in Brahms' music! I also noticed the main theme of Clarinet Trio's first mvt. contains the descending 'five-note motif' (1:24) in the minor key. I noticed the other later pieces which use this motif are mostly in minor, such as op. 118 no. 2, op. 119 no. 1, and op. 120 no. 1. However, op. 117 no. 1 and op. 118 no. 5 are in major, so maybe it wasn't all gloomy for Brahms after coming back from retirement. Thanks for the great vid!

  • @wichceedee
    @wichceedee 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Nicely put together.

  • @johnphillips5993
    @johnphillips5993 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    One thing I’m surprised you didn’t mention is how this Lullaby motif actually resembles the descending 5-note Clara motif Schumann uses all the time, which you can actually see in the Schumann Album Leaf op.99/5. The B flat at the end of the lullaby motif is followed by an A flat, finishing the 5 note descension. Another thing I realized is that the motif in “Einsame Blumen” (Solitary Flowers) from Schumann’s Waldszenen kind of resembles the Lullaby theme and the Clara theme. This number is probably the second most devastating major key work ever written outside of Brahms op.117/1

  • @ralphiesal
    @ralphiesal 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    he also used this in one of his choral works, O Schone Nacht. Basses sing that motif in their second time appearing.

  • @Isegawa2001
    @Isegawa2001 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If brahms lyke schumenn so much then y did he bang his wife?!? libruls owned 😂😂😂

  • @christophersims7426
    @christophersims7426 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You missed two great uses of the second lullaby in Op. 76 (very underrated, imo): at the climax of the first phrase in no.6, and in a stark minor key setting in no. 7.

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, good catches. I'm sure there are many more that aren't listed either. Just goes to show how much that motif was ingrained into Brahms' mind.

    • @antoineroche2073
      @antoineroche2073 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yes ! By the way for the n°7 I also see a clear reference of Chopin's nocturne in F minor op 55 n°1.

  • @gigogrom216
    @gigogrom216 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Good to see another Brahms's fan here! Amazing work

  • @calebhu6383
    @calebhu6383 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I find Brahms' affinity with lullabies to be fascinating. Does anybody have any insight into why he used lullaby motifs so often in his music?

    • @chickennoob7478
      @chickennoob7478 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Citing from piano angelicus, She argued that Schumann often used the descending scales motif as this is a secret language for “Clara”, and the motif can be found in a lot of Schumann’s pieces too (One of my most memorable one is Widmung in the lyrics Du meine Vonn, O Du mein smertz) As Brahms had a crush on Clara Schumann, it will be natural for Brahms to borrow the Clara motif to his pieces, especially considering op. 118 no. 2 is written for Clara and played at her funeral.

    • @turtle945
      @turtle945 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The Clara theme usually starts with C-Bflat-Aflat (or C B A in the Schumann's piano concerto) to represent Clara. However, Brahm's lullaby theme always has an ascending fourth preceding the descending note pattern. Why is this? Well, Wiegenlied was a secret love song to Brahm's other crush, Bertha Faber. If you look at the notes to Wiegenlied and op 117 no. 1, this lullaby theme starts with B flat - E flat ( B - Es in german) which are the first two letters of Bertha. So perhaps we should start calling this the "Bertha" theme 😉

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@turtle945 whoa

  • @DanielBerke
    @DanielBerke วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for putting me onto Paul Wee's recording of the Symphony and Concerto for Solo Piano, that album's going right into my music library.

  • @markus7894
    @markus7894 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's more the highlights of the best and most memorable musical moments of our favorite composer rather than it is the specially hard ones to play!

  • @Kostchei
    @Kostchei วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having actually played one of the honorable mentions (Suggestions Diabolique from the 4 pieces) puts it into perspective how fking unplayble some of his pieces are. o.o Then again, I'm just a hobby pianist xD

  • @aidanstrong1061
    @aidanstrong1061 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like Davidsbundler is not as hard as its made out to be here - certainly I would put the sonatas, the Fantasie, and Kreisleriana above it. Henle only gives it a difficulty of 7!

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Henle is super super wrong there. However, I do see an argument for Kreisleriana and the Fantasy being harder.

  • @erikk582
    @erikk582 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You forgot prelude op.28 no.16

  • @polymath6475
    @polymath6475 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I play this one, love it everytime, but recordings are extremely rare to find, and I'm not good enough to post my own😂

  • @CaradhrasAiguo49
    @CaradhrasAiguo49 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:12 Hummel's Fifth Sonata, Op. 81 is harder if you actually want to come close to the metronome markings (MM minim 1/2 = 76). The concerti are more reasonable 8:41 same with Felix Mendelssohn. The 2nd Trio's Scherzo is marked at MM minim 1/2 = 88. Straight from the madhouse 9:23 Chopin's Allegro da Concert Op. 46 is definitely tougher sans endurance. There's a double note part in the middle of the movement that most pianists slow down for...

  • @kikichen6248
    @kikichen6248 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    op2, op10-2, op 22 op 46, op 49, op 60, preludes... there r so many other hard hard chopin pieces

  • @jerzyadacha8399
    @jerzyadacha8399 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    symphonic dances op 45 are very beautiful and underrated

  • @otonanoC
    @otonanoC 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Praise to that Hummel concerto section. It's just nuts.

  • @kudzem
    @kudzem 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:08:55 "Very rapid and energetic" LOL

  • @SuperJoeyMusic
    @SuperJoeyMusic 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great montage. I would have further divided this idea into hardest solo piano pieces, vs hardest concerto/chamber music piano pieces.

  • @tungholau2457
    @tungholau2457 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    top 10 hardest of Bartok please?

  • @andrewharrison8975
    @andrewharrison8975 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ‘Fraid I stopped listening when I realised that the baroque pieces were being played on inappropriate instrument, they sounded so weird! Entertaining idea, tho’.

  • @dottiedavis355
    @dottiedavis355 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wondered which of Louis Moreau Gottschalk’s pieces you’d choose. Bamboula? Tarantella? (My favorites.) Sigh. Loads of fun anyways - thanks!

  • @devilblaster82
    @devilblaster82 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    where is my man Medtner?? He only did unapologetically difficult compositions which for reason if you listen for a moment or two, you will get hooked for life:)

  • @EL-xg4yq
    @EL-xg4yq 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    List needs to be updated with Roman Kim's transcription of beethovens 5th symphony... try using all FIVE fingers (yes thumb included) at ONCE to play the music to simulate 3 or 4 instruments at the, same time on ONE violin... mamy passages would have 2 line polyphony double stopped while the 3rd line is pizzed at the same time... sometimes while doing all of this you have to juggle harmknics into one of the double stops...

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True that is the new hardest tonal work

  • @matthewnell
    @matthewnell 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A pretty monumental accomplishment to perform this work. Congrats :) I really enjoyed this on my run today.

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Michelangeli remains amazing. A true artist.

  • @sjpbrooklyn7699
    @sjpbrooklyn7699 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very odd: 2-piano concerto reductions are customarily printed with the soloist’s staves above the second piano’s, but the Amy Beach score had the piano solo on the bottom!

  • @gideonpark8621
    @gideonpark8621 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just tried sightreading the Liszt Symphony #9 and I was like this is not too bad. And then I looked at the page count and oh my word... 88 pages? What is this, a page for each key???

  • @willhemmings
    @willhemmings 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds like the recording of a cat strolling across Michael Finnissey's piano keys - cat difficulty 1++

  • @Piotr-jx4bu
    @Piotr-jx4bu 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where is piano concerto no 1?

  • @vaclavmiller8032
    @vaclavmiller8032 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Isn't sonata 6 harder than 7?

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All three are about the same level of difficulty, different people will think different ones are harder

  • @dajepson
    @dajepson 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video, thanks for putting it together. Some others that could have been included: Chabrier: Bourree Fantasque Bizet: Variations Chromatiques Dukas: Sonata Borodin: Petite Suite (I guess, can't recall what else he wrote for piano)

  • @weerapongjuntachai2293
    @weerapongjuntachai2293 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Indeed, Brahms 1 is literally perfect in every aspect.

  • @tungholau2457
    @tungholau2457 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    mozart most difficult piano work may be the concerto c minor K491

  • @gojewla
    @gojewla 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In my humble opinion, I might pick some other pieces and other passages. The opening of the third movement of the second concerto is maybe the most difficult passage from that piece according to most people I know. Also, of the op 39 etudes, the 8th is REALLY hard to play well. It’s so incredibly intricate. Op 33 no 4 is probably the hardest (d minor). Most people can’t do the articulation correctly, but if you hear the richter recording, you see that it’s actually possible. Corelli variation no. 10 is probably the most infamous. If you walk by the practice rooms at any conservatory, that’s the one they always practice. (Particularly a nasty passage in double notes). Some other pieces that I have not played but highly suspect are among his most difficult are the e-flat minor moment musical and the e-flat minor prelude from op. 23, and the e minor prelude from op 32.

  • @matthewalexander-thepianist
    @matthewalexander-thepianist 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    About Hamelin ¿His hardest piece is his Chopin triple etude?

  • @JohnChernoff
    @JohnChernoff 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a lot less issues with this list (er, Lizst?) than I thought I would have. Dvorak's hardest piano piece is probably his F Minor Quartet, though, Faure's Violin Sonata is probably his trickiest piece involving piano, and Barber's Piano Concerto should be a 9. Also, where's Chausson?

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are 100% correct about Richter's 2nd being the standard by which all other recordings are judged. It is pure gold. It is the only 1 of 2 recordings where, at the end of the 2nd mvmt, the flutes and clarinets in triplets are balanced correctly. The other, of course, is vK and Weissenberg.

  • @dacovaz
    @dacovaz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice you put some less know and very good pianists in your selection. For Saint-Saens Etude en forme de vals I don't know anyone more astonishing then Alfred Cortot! Wagner could be skipped as a composer for piano:)

  • @jcguy777
    @jcguy777 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes movie orchestras play it for sound effects.

  • @robhaskins
    @robhaskins 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My wrists hurt. I wish you'd included either the third or fourth sonatas of Michael Tippett. and maybe Persichetti Sonata no. 11.