This is not an Native american song, but a Saami (Indegenous people of Scandinavia) Yoik called Normo Jovvna. This sampling was stolen from Terje Tretnes and he never received credit or payment for this.
This group stole a vocal sample from a Norwegian Sami friend of mine, the chorus of the traditional song "Normo Jovnna", added drums and rattles and repackaged it as a Native American song, calling it "Counter Clockwise Circle Dance". He was never consulted, compensated or credited, and fought Virgin Atlantic in court for years.
This is a Sami Joik from Scandinavia/Finland not a Native American chant. The producers of the CD used a recording of a Sami man performing a Joik, dubbed it with extra sounds then sold it on as a Native American chant without paying the family of the man royalties.
Beauty, Peace, Present. No the past can't be forgotten but learned from as we go forth to be now having respect as we rebuild & do what it best to teach positive non violent ways to deal with situations.
can you feel the rythm within this piece and does not the digital sound excellerate your emotion .... break out and excersize your creativity express yourself don't be a wolf they cannot express themselves and must depend of their pack for comfort and release
Because I speak my families language and I understand intonation and have sang with several drums , practice Drum , Peyote, member of NAC, and first elder WhiteBear medicine society..........SHow respect for creative energy from all relation..... when the stones in the mountain begin to sing as the lava and magma boil do you complain that their voice is not eloquint? .
I'm very sorry..that comment below wasn't in context to yours, but this discussion has helped so much. So many questions in our family for over a century. It's not explainable to outsiders. People on both sides only see the surface & have no clue. Just that...I realize now, after 35 years, why my aunt refused tribal affiliation. She wasn't going to abandon us. Over so much more, she chose her family and us. Thank you for listening. :-)
Not sure what you mean. I am English if that matters. My family have been English since 1066. I suppose before that we would be considered Norman which doesn't exist anymore. Certainly my family are very proud of our heritage. My point is. As a culture, we did many things which we should not have done but what would be unforgivable would be to repeat them. Thankfully, we rarely do but still it happens and it should not. Politicians then and politicians now are not so very different.
I personally will seek to never throw my European-ancestry family under the bus to be more acceptable. I'd rather be spit on than to be a coward like that. ...but that's just my way. Others have a different tribal way.
It's a fish describing water to a tree. Both understand it differently. Myself and many people around me have given our lives over to supporting Native American issues. What people hear only about are a small few. Additionally, the ones who receive the most press are one tribe. There are many of us, including those that aren't federally recognized. Each of us handles these issues in a different tribal mindset, even down to the tribal band we are.
Actually, the worst corruption abuse and class divide is not in the west. Look at countries like India. Huge economies with growth even in a time of global economic crisis yet half the population suffer with some of the highest infant mortality in the world. The problem of wealth distribution and quality of life is a problem in the west but an absolute crisis further afield. Your example of infant mortality is a very good example of that.
I am sure your right. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and we still have not learned the lessons which should be obvious from this period of history even now.
As 40,000 babies die EVERY DAY and you say "life is actual very good" shows how self centered you are, many more creators die from how the western world lives its life! You are as fake as you're world!
..You know, we ended up with no claim to any land, money, treaties or even the right to guilt-trip anyone. Life is actually very good. May you be blessed and at peace some day too.
Genetics: Winnebago, Potawatomi, Oneida, German. One of the best things about being treated like crap by both sides is that it's freed me to be only loyal to love, kindness and family. You're not my family. I owe you nothing..except common respect. I'm not obligated to "let" you be my teacher on anything, but I'll respect your point of view.
i agree with you,this song is from the sami people of northern Europe sung by south Americans! anyone who wants to hear real native american music should go to a pow wow and listen to the real deal, not this stuff!
LOL....this music is for white people. not one native from Turtle Island(north america) listen to this crap music, our traditional music is what we all listen to.
what is stolen yesterday is stolen today, no if ands or buts about it. all pilgrims are greedy. all if this is not true, where are the people who gave back land? where?
we are not "american", "america" is an italian word and you people keep telling us we need to get educated? you are not educated! this land is "Turtle Island" not north ameria. so shut the F up!
When I hear this song it's just like I realize that life just is a tiny fraction of the big picture. Thinking about it, what does life really matter? Sure we have the ability to change it, everyone does. But in the end we all die so what next? Do we matter, does this existence even compare for what will happen next. Afterlife, reincarnation whatever you believe...life itself is just a tiny glimpse of the gift of existence. I don't know, I can't really explain what I'm trying to say.
If your anger at Americans is based on concerns for Native Americans, know that many of us have taken steps to rectify the past. If it's another motivation, then those are internal reasons no amount of American-hate can soothe...or justify.
@Vidar447 Actually, partially correct. Natives were more like the people left after the wrong side won a war. They fought more on the side of the French than Britain, if they took sides. So, when we became a British colony and the French withdrew, the natives became a huge fear and disbanding their unity became a big priority. What if they could be persuaded to fight against the gov't again?
@SymonDymond Thanks. So many immigrants came here for "cheap Indian land"..and yes, some in gov't & public continued to be prejudicial. However, many immigrants felt respect and gratitude for natives, including my grandfather. They just didn't understand what the gov't had done until too late.
@gloriousottomanempir Okey-doke. That's not correct. When the British ruled the United States, they began those policies. They began in Europe and were continued by the GOVERNMENT, not the American people. Many European immigrants encouraged to leave Europe by "cheap Indian land for sale" had been taken by force. Many full-bloods understand the BIA is to blame, not every white face in the United States. Web search under "cheap Indian land for sale" to begin to understand.
@Vidar447 So its ok that they were taken over by a British colony? I am British, but let us not be ridiculous, the rise of the British empire and any other was more by luck than judgement and rarely does the best culture survive an incursion from a more hostile one no matter how un enlightened it may be.
@barbj7121 It's been a year, but Chief was only the leader of a given war party. More often than not, they were only warriors. Since WW1, there hasn't been anyone made famous by the newspapers, because they led war parties against the U.S. Army. We still have warriors of the same caliber today, who have and who are fighting for the U.S. You don't have to wait to die to ask any question you may have. Sp5 Fred Jack Amikoons Miles, Chippewa Warrior, 1st Special Forces, Vietnam, 1968
Great song and artwork ❤♥❤
and i feel the same 9 yrs later!!
🦅🤟♥🦉"little hawk"hears
Awesome track, and great images!
This is not an Native american song, but a Saami (Indegenous people of Scandinavia) Yoik called Normo Jovvna. This sampling was stolen from Terje Tretnes and he never received credit or payment for this.
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Still beautiful. 👌👌💯
This group stole a vocal sample from a Norwegian Sami friend of mine, the chorus of the traditional song "Normo Jovnna", added drums and rattles and repackaged it as a Native American song, calling it "Counter Clockwise Circle Dance". He was never consulted, compensated or credited, and fought Virgin Atlantic in court for years.
This is a Sami Joik from Scandinavia/Finland not a Native American chant. The producers of the CD used a recording of a Sami man performing a Joik, dubbed it with extra sounds then sold it on as a Native American chant without paying the family of the man royalties.
ty for the info cuz thats not cool.
This is Sami not Native American..
Really nice playlist ;)
Beauty, Peace, Present. No the past can't be forgotten but learned from as we go forth to be now having respect as we rebuild & do what it best to teach positive non violent ways to deal with situations.
If I'm correct, this was the tribe of the Pawnee...They were the only ones to dance counter-clockwise.....
Many nations have counter-clockwise dances. This is a Norwegian Sami song, so that doesn't matter.
Enjoying this.....Makes me sad that the Native Americans were treated so badly just because their culture was not that of the settlers.
CUDO.............
can you feel the rythm within this piece and does not the digital sound excellerate your emotion .... break out and excersize your creativity express yourself don't be a wolf they cannot express themselves and must depend of their pack for comfort and release
Because I speak my families language and I understand intonation and have sang with several drums , practice Drum , Peyote, member of NAC, and first elder WhiteBear medicine society..........SHow respect for creative energy from all relation..... when the stones in the mountain begin to sing as the lava and magma boil do you complain that their voice is not eloquint? .
I love it! :) Its Gorgeous!!! :)
I feel safe too.i love this song. XXOo
the one at the end of the video is red armed panther northen cheyenne, i had an vision of him on top of an mountain pray. noshoes apache ,
i feel this song with my heart and soul for the natives!!
they lost theirentire world, they only took what they needed,entire population gone, so sad
@1Kuura Still sounds good though
Oh I see now. I was a bit confused haha.
I'm very sorry..that comment below wasn't in context to yours, but this discussion has helped so much. So many questions in our family for over a century. It's not explainable to outsiders. People on both sides only see the surface & have no clue. Just that...I realize now, after 35 years, why my aunt refused tribal affiliation. She wasn't going to abandon us. Over so much more, she chose her family and us. Thank you for listening. :-)
Not sure what you mean. I am English if that matters. My family have been English since 1066. I suppose before that we would be considered Norman which doesn't exist anymore. Certainly my family are very proud of our heritage. My point is. As a culture, we did many things which we should not have done but what would be unforgivable would be to repeat them. Thankfully, we rarely do but still it happens and it should not. Politicians then and politicians now are not so very different.
I personally will seek to never throw my European-ancestry family under the bus to be more acceptable. I'd rather be spit on than to be a coward like that. ...but that's just my way. Others have a different tribal way.
It's a fish describing water to a tree. Both understand it differently. Myself and many people around me have given our lives over to supporting Native American issues. What people hear only about are a small few. Additionally, the ones who receive the most press are one tribe. There are many of us, including those that aren't federally recognized. Each of us handles these issues in a different tribal mindset, even down to the tribal band we are.
Actually, the worst corruption abuse and class divide is not in the west. Look at countries like India. Huge economies with growth even in a time of global economic crisis yet half the population suffer with some of the highest infant mortality in the world. The problem of wealth distribution and quality of life is a problem in the west but an absolute crisis further afield. Your example of infant mortality is a very good example of that.
I am sure your right. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and we still have not learned the lessons which should be obvious from this period of history even now.
Great song
As 40,000 babies die EVERY DAY and you say "life is actual very good" shows how self centered you are, many more creators die from how the western world lives its life! You are as fake as you're world!
..You know, we ended up with no claim to any land, money, treaties or even the right to guilt-trip anyone. Life is actually very good. May you be blessed and at peace some day too.
Genetics: Winnebago, Potawatomi, Oneida, German. One of the best things about being treated like crap by both sides is that it's freed me to be only loyal to love, kindness and family. You're not my family. I owe you nothing..except common respect. I'm not obligated to "let" you be my teacher on anything, but I'll respect your point of view.
i agree with you,this song is from the sami people of northern Europe sung by south Americans! anyone who wants to hear real native american music should go to a pow wow and listen to the real deal, not this stuff!
this song is heaven :)
I really like this song. It's beautifully done and has depth and soul to it.
LOL....this music is for white people. not one native from Turtle Island(north america) listen to this crap music, our traditional music is what we all listen to.
what is stolen yesterday is stolen today, no if ands or buts about it. all pilgrims are greedy. all if this is not true, where are the people who gave back land? where?
we are not "american", "america" is an italian word and you people keep telling us we need to get educated? you are not educated! this land is "Turtle Island" not north ameria. so shut the F up!
When I hear this song it's just like I realize that life just is a tiny fraction of the big picture. Thinking about it, what does life really matter? Sure we have the ability to change it, everyone does. But in the end we all die so what next? Do we matter, does this existence even compare for what will happen next. Afterlife, reincarnation whatever you believe...life itself is just a tiny glimpse of the gift of existence. I don't know, I can't really explain what I'm trying to say.
Skandinavian sami song.. /watch?v=dHiU36GDaEA
If your anger at Americans is based on concerns for Native Americans, know that many of us have taken steps to rectify the past. If it's another motivation, then those are internal reasons no amount of American-hate can soothe...or justify.
@Vidar447 Actually, partially correct. Natives were more like the people left after the wrong side won a war. They fought more on the side of the French than Britain, if they took sides. So, when we became a British colony and the French withdrew, the natives became a huge fear and disbanding their unity became a big priority. What if they could be persuaded to fight against the gov't again?
@SymonDymond Thanks. So many immigrants came here for "cheap Indian land"..and yes, some in gov't & public continued to be prejudicial. However, many immigrants felt respect and gratitude for natives, including my grandfather. They just didn't understand what the gov't had done until too late.
@gloriousottomanempir Okey-doke. That's not correct. When the British ruled the United States, they began those policies. They began in Europe and were continued by the GOVERNMENT, not the American people. Many European immigrants encouraged to leave Europe by "cheap Indian land for sale" had been taken by force. Many full-bloods understand the BIA is to blame, not every white face in the United States. Web search under "cheap Indian land for sale" to begin to understand.
@geriatricpenguin Very true, the British in those days were like the yanks of today, doesnt make it right though.
@Vidar447 So its ok that they were taken over by a British colony? I am British, but let us not be ridiculous, the rise of the British empire and any other was more by luck than judgement and rarely does the best culture survive an incursion from a more hostile one no matter how un enlightened it may be.
@barbj7121 It's been a year, but Chief was only the leader of a given war party. More often than not, they were only warriors. Since WW1, there hasn't been anyone made famous by the newspapers, because they led war parties against the U.S. Army. We still have warriors of the same caliber today, who have and who are fighting for the U.S. You don't have to wait to die to ask any question you may have. Sp5 Fred Jack Amikoons Miles, Chippewa Warrior, 1st Special Forces, Vietnam, 1968
Goosebumps !!!
Glorious culture