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The Misguided Morals of Rebecca the Musical
Analysing the Rebecca musical from its conception through the London production
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Elisabeth das Musical Wien 1992 Trailer
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Fan-made trailer for the original production of Elisabeth. I don’t own any of the material used in this video.
Elisabeth das Musical Essen 2002 Trailer
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Fan-made trailer for the Essen production of Elisabeth. I don’t own any of the material used in this video.
Elisabeth das Musical Wien 2005 Trailer (*flashing lights*)
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Fan-made trailer for the Wien revival of Elisabeth. I don’t own any of the material used in this video.
“Nichts ist schwer” (2005) and “Boote in der Nacht” (2022) Elisabeth das Musical Schönbrunn
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Maya Hakvoort and André Bauer perform their love duet and reprise 17 years apart I don’t own any of the material used in this video
Very cool analysis! I love that you put the sources at the end of the video
Thank you for this. Though i think any book adaptation into the musical goes into scrutiny for its differences, at most the changes to provide more entertainment for its audience. We have a lot musicals such as wicked, and even les mes that did massive changes from the source material to fit the needs of a theatre musical. The one musical I can think of that rivals Rebecca is the original production of Sunset Blvd. Having both a weak or flawed plot, both musicals are in high demand due to its lavish score and production. and after knowing the drama behind the attempt to put Rebecca on broadway, this was more production focused musical over story. It only works if you have the same stage as the Vienna original. It won't make a difference regardless if you try to alter the plot to make it make sense.
Einfach nur Geiillll ....Danke Maya Hakvoort,toll und mit Gefühl Gesungen😘💜👍
I think the reason the musical lists only the original novel by Daphne du Maurier is purely for legal reasons, because it’s very obviously adapted from Alfred Hitchcock’s 1940 movie, carrying over virtually all of the plot, character, and thematic changes from the original film.
I agree with all of your points from a rational and literary standpoint. But also, back in 2012, when I was an awkward, closeted theater kid in a shitty small town in Germany my theater club went to see Rebecca the musical with Pia Douwes in Stuttgart and watching her caress Rebecca’s nightgown and belt about eternal love on stage fundamentally changed something about my brain chemistry and made me the goth lesbian I am today. I remember turning to my friend after the show was done and saying (and I quote): “I need her to sign my tits so I can get it tattooed!” Only very godly and heterosexual feelings were had that day. Btw Pia Douwes is the same age as my mum and she could still absolutely get it if only I was worthy of her. This was a very long winded and gay way to say that Rebecca the musical is somewhat of a problematic fave for me lol.
Ahh how amazing that you got to see Pia!! She’s one of my favourite actresses though I’ve never seen her live. You’re so right and I can relate - lesbian representation in theatre is rare, let alone such a complex character. The show is very important to me for this reason too!
I love your analysis on this. I agree on most points, but I have to admit I disagree with the part about queer coding in the musical. Yes, Danny is most certainly queer, but I don’t think the musical portrayals her as a villain. In fact, I think it’s the opposite, and she’s MORE sympathetic than she is in the book because we see things entirely from her point of view at times instead of just I’s. And as such we feel for her. As for the de Winters, there is absolutely no way I is straight in my mind 😂😂😂. Maxim is debatable on that front, but then again I headcanon him as a bisexual trans man so I can’t really talk. I feel like the whole “The musical thinks straight romance good, queer characters evil” take is a little bit of an over simplification. Yes, the musical does spin the story into a romantic one, but I like to think that Danny’s love for Rebecca is highlighted just as much as the de Winters love for each other and is portrayed just as sympathetically despite Danny’s tragic end. As for the way Rebecca’s death was written for the musical, I think Kunze’s idea worked. While I was writing Fanbecca, I came to the same realization that Kunze did about Maxim’s intent behind claiming it was an accident and how that changes things with I. Specifically with Fanbecca, I (and I mean that as myself as I and the character I 😂) tells Maxim “It was an accident” but then she pauses and asks “Was it?” and my voice is shaking when I (myself) say that line. I know people who have actually played the role professionally don’t usually do it that way so take my words with a grain of salt. But I myself was going for her being afraid of Maxim’s answer being “No, it wasn’t an accident” and what that would mean for her, as well as her trying to delude herself. Maxim answering with “I don’t know, I swear I don’t know” only gives her more reason to delude herself into thinking that everything is fine. I think the addition of “Free Now” only adds to that interpretation. I always saw that song as I (the character) deluding herself into thinking everything is fine and the book’s intentions behind that passage were definitely put to good use in my opinion. I will admit that the musical does give the de Winters a triumphant ending, but I always saw it as them working to heal from their trauma instead of just “Everything’s totally fine now, nothing is wrong” like the musicals lyrics imply. Again, this is something my writing partner and I addressed in Fanbecca’s epilogue (“Memories flow just like waves on the sea, becoming what we’re meant to be”, “Only now in then in our darkest days, something stirs the hurt inside”, “We must take this time, search with all our might, and move in to make things right”, “We can’t go back to yesterday no matter how much we try”, etc) but since that isn’t an official version and just how two fans interpret Rebecca as a whole, I don’t expect people to take it as gospel. I agree that Lonbecca did the epilogue better than the original German language productions because it captured the book so well. Again, lovely analysis. I enjoyed hearing it. Now I shall go to tumblr and ramble some more about this story 😂
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts! I agree completely that Mrs Danvers is depicted sympathetically in the musical, and I wish I had specified that in the video. I only have an issue with the shift in how maxim/i is portrayed, not in Danny (or Favell). I really appreciate your perspective on the characters and songs from working on the fan recording! Especially about I’s reaction to whether Rebecca’s death was an accident, I see what you mean that it can be read as I deluding herself. I wish it was played that way more often, though I still think the overarching romance makes it hard to maintain that ambiguity for long, even with “Free Now”. I watched a lot of theatre youtubers’ reviews of the show, most of them unfamiliar with it beforehand, and I remember a couple people mentioning how it was weird that “I” was unconcerned that Maxim killed Rebecca. So the ambiguity might not come across to new viewers. Honestly I think London Rebecca is in a bit of a weird state, they seem to be experimenting with a lot of changes, so I really hope there will be future English productions to fully develop these ideas. Overall i think a lot of the video is very subjective haha, it’s a story that can be interpreted lots of different ways so I definitely appreciate other perspectives!
Watching these three trailers after another really illustrates how each production has its own unique style and feel.
Ah, my personal favourite production. How I miss Schwarzer Prinz in the later versions.
One thing I like about the 1992 version that I feel later ones lost a little is how haunting it can be at times. This trailer, especially the beginning of it, captures that very well.
Aww thank you! And so true, I love the eeriness of the 1992 production
Ikr!! That’s why I love it so much! The lighting, costumes and songs make it so hauntingly beautiful <3
Very good points. To be honest, I like this musical mostly for its music. It never struck me as something with much to interpret.
Thank you! And that makes sense as well, it really does have lovely music
Such an interesting essay! And as a big fan, I agree on your points. As an aro ace person, I wasn´t sold on the main romance of the show from the first time I saw it, instead finding Mrs. Danvers and her connection to Rebecca much more interesting. And sure enough, as I was looking for more depth in the characters, I was getting further away from the musical´s and more to the book´s original themes. Since then I saw pretty much all of the other adaptations and read the book, but the musical still shines as my favorite adaptation, despite it´s flaws (I am very much biased, but still) <3
Thank you for your comment! I think there’s a lot of overlap between lesbians and aro ace people finding straight romances unrelatable haha. The musical is my favourite adaptation as well, though I still have to watch some of the tv miniseries
Despite of being a fan of the musical, I love your deep analysis of the original novel. I haven’t read the book yet, but the 1940 film tells me that it is a triller instead of being a romantic story. I am glad that Maxi de Winter is played by charismatic actors, and I even got my favourite Maxi. However, I cannot help feeling the actual Maxi might be manipulative and deceptive. 😅
Thank you! The book is really good, I hope you enjoy it if you end up reading it. I really like Maxim as a character in both the book and musical, and I think it’s up to interpretation whether he’s deliberately manipulative in the book. And it’s definitely great to have charismatic actors in the role!
Oh dear my eyes have become fountains
This is so well done, I sob my way through it every time I watch this
Wunderbar ausdrucksvoll interpretierte Duette! th-cam.com/video/qRMxJCLKLjo/w-d-xo.html
Oh, it was a great idea to edit these performances together! So cool seeing the actors actually older in Boote in der Nacht, it makes it more "real" and tragic.