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Competitive Smash RUINS The Game
Smash Bros RUINS the game (for me). This video goes through my experience with Competitive Smash Bros and where it left me after I no longer compete.
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Special Thanks to:
Mya, Taylor, James, Ryan, Derek, Jacob, Conor and the Competitive Smash Community.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
02:29 A Party Game
07:55 A Fighting Game
14:52 The Divide
18:55 Final Thoughts
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  • @Moon_Child_Mari
    @Moon_Child_Mari หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the time of writing this, I’m almost two years late to this video, and yet I find myself in nearly the exact same situation as you. I’m around halfway through AR59, helping to manage my partner’s account, who just reached AR56 today. I first got into Genshin Impact because my friends had started to play it before me, and with the continuous ads I was receiving, I figured I would give it a try. I got to know the world, fell in love with it, and am completely indifferent to it all. As you said before, it’s incredibly disheartening seeing all of the potential that Genshin has, because even still, that is all that it is: potential. With the release of Natlan, some improvements have been made, but it feels as though it’s too little too late. It’s disappointing that it took the release of their 6th nation to begin including more QoL updates and increase the rewards the players now receive for completing quests and exploring, because this was something that has been requested for YEARS. I think of all of the flaws that people talk about ad nauseam, I don’t think enough people talk about Genshin has forced itself into a corner and has become a dichotomy that ultimately fulfills no one. In an attempt to intrigue new players, new characters are in frequent rotation and have several new quests and activities tacked onto them, which then adds to the ever growing list of already existing chores many players still have to do. In order to not make their more casual player base anxious, they minimize challenging endgame content, which alienates their more combat-centered player base that is not interested in the more narrative parts of the game. You’re either overwhelmed or incredibly bored. There is no winning. And with another 5-10 years of development still planned, I cannot imagine this circumstance improving. Like you said, Genshin is a game that I love, but that I’ll never wholeheartedly recommend to anybody. I’ll miss the game when I ultimately stop playing it, but I’ll be content that it’s over.

  • @mels287
    @mels287 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched this Video a years ago or so and i enjoyed it a Lot. For some (good) reason it stuck in my mind because of that, But when i tried to find it again to rewatch i couldnt. And i really did try! Tiping genshin Impact related Lines into the TH-cam searchbar search over and over. Sadly it was to No available though. Every now and again i would try to find it again and obviously, now i have! So to get to the Point. Thank you! For making a Video worth searching for ^-^

    • @SeppoCJ
      @SeppoCJ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mels287 That was heartwarming. You're amazing, thank you!

  • @willhart2188
    @willhart2188 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here is how I feel currently. Genshin is easy enough, that completing a character is not really necessary. Especially if you don't go for spiral abyss and just do the dailies. Slowly over time I've managed to "100%" every area and do almost every quest so far. Team: Ayaka, Focalors, (wild card), Nahida. Parts I enjoyed most in the game were the long story quests like the Aranara ones, that hit hard towards the end, and limited time summer events that feel like a holiday. It is also really nice to have something to look forward to too. New events, characters, story. It is like a perfect game for me, who wants to go with their own pace.

  • @Edward_Ardy4671
    @Edward_Ardy4671 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's the constant cycle of Push and Pull. Lackluster content you leave then they tug you in with a new update. I'm tired of it...which is why I decided to leave even if I got arlecchino. Edit: DPS build for kazuha is crazy💀

  • @-nery-
    @-nery- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just happened upon your video and I must say, I very much like it! Personally I play Genshin since day 1 and am still loving it, even though most of what you described is also how I feel about it. What keeps me going is all the stuff hidden in the story, design, practically everything lore related and the music (the boss themes are a banger, Fontaine's waltz OSTs are soo beautiful). I am in awe seeing how a game with this quality still grows with new characters that all can receive a several page analysis of their designs, who have an individual story and hint at how thought through this fantasy world is. The character quests aren't that great for the most part, some story chaps feel rushed or way too slow, the rewards for special occasions are mediocre to be generous and in the end game, where I am now, there's not much left to do. But: I still stick with it, cause I love this game for everything else! Most of the critique is totally justified, but even if most characters are designed to appeal to the game's asian market, even if the game doesn't revolve around its end game, there must be so much work and thought behind other parts, that at least to me(!!!!), that justifies or outweighs what's lacking!

  • @femto8402
    @femto8402 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:43 how did you do that ? I have never seen this dash before it's awesome

  • @eliotanderson6554
    @eliotanderson6554 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me quited it long ago bcs it wasnt a game which had values i thought it would stand for i expected great story coop with legend of zelda vibes open world exploration etc

  • @ln5321
    @ln5321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I love Smash!" exclaims the competitive player, as he ignores and derides 98% of the content of the game he "loves."

  • @NaiUndead
    @NaiUndead 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content 😊

  • @gaothegenet
    @gaothegenet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that you said that 4 star artifacts and 3 star weapons, are basically useless, tells me everything i need to know

  • @TUCB-YT
    @TUCB-YT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i fall into the same situation but we did find many solutions >Classic Mode >Home Run Contest >Mob Smash >Smash Tour (Yes I Still Play That From Time To Time) >Team Up Against A Beefed Up Amiibo Because Thats Really All I Can Do

  • @IPODsify
    @IPODsify 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Competitive smash community sucks for one reason, if smash is at a party, someone who's heard of ZeRo or Hbox is going to ruin the party because they're focused on the meta and shit. Meta takes the fun out of any game if you're a casual player Don't even get me started with the battlefield only, 1v1 only shit, number 1 way to kill my vibe at a party. To sit and wait in line to play a game that has enough slots for all of us. And worse, can't even enjoy a good final smash bait

  • @HELLRAISER02
    @HELLRAISER02 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ill say that squad strike has been played in tournaments, but barely Im weird cuz im both casual and comp cuz i can dumb myself down cuz i can go autopilot easily, but im still too good for normal casuals, and the deeper knowledge is big for me, i just like learning :)

  • @arkadeepchattopadhyay1371
    @arkadeepchattopadhyay1371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your voice exactly sounds like Jesse Eisenberg in Social Networking. 🙂

  • @ayar2
    @ayar2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    leaving my two cents: -Even if you dont compete at tournaments you'll going to get very good at the game if you play it enough, in my case, Ill never competed in a smash tournament before, but since smash 64 I played and mained one of the most difficult characters to master at the time, Samus, now in ultimate I can easily adapt to both free for alls and 1v1 with her since all that chaos makes you good at improvising and quick thinking. -while you cant play on even grounds against most casual players anymore, there's plenty of comp players that are down to play with more varied rulesets than what appears at first sigh, I always find at least 3 arenas in ultimates online that are 4 player free for alls and final smashes allowed, making the experience more even. -while this is a personal experience, I got many friends that are at my level as we still play the game casually constantly, I adapted to them, but they also adapt to me, so is still more fair.

  • @bluedawn0075
    @bluedawn0075 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ngl, im in a similar position.

  • @jasomega2446
    @jasomega2446 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20:30 I not only feel your pain, but I actually suffer the same pain.

  • @jasomega2446
    @jasomega2446 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:25 Thank you for your definition

  • @MangaMarjan
    @MangaMarjan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish Smash would try to be more aware of the compettitive scene in it's design (why is there no short hop or separate tilt button, for example) but I also wish that the Smash scene would be more open to what the game actually has to offer. Why don't we play squad smash, use the ultra-metre, play on more stages? Many of these mechanics are not even random (or not more random than Luigie getting a missfire). There is so much variance just left on the table.

  • @Austindogftw
    @Austindogftw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the same problem with having to warn my siblings and I'm good at smash before I play against them. But even then sometimes they still beat me because they are surprisingly good.

  • @myorangesarenice1122
    @myorangesarenice1122 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Competing smash ruins the game for me because no one wants to play with me anymore. That hit hard man😢(its so true it apply for a lot of games)why is getting better being punished. This vid is relatable

  • @happymonkeyfish
    @happymonkeyfish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think people who aren't in the know fail to realize that at the birth of the competitive smash scene (melee early years) there were quite a few tournaments where lots of stages were legal and items were on. The problem was noone could collectively agree who was better/who was winning by skill vs luck because of these factors, causing everyone to eventually agree on items off and slowly wittling down the stages to what they use now. It was just a big hassle and made the competitive experience feel less earned so things changed into what competitive smash is today. They also banned stuff that both casual and competitive players would absolutely hate like ice climbers wobbling (infinite, inescapable grab combo) because it was game breaking. Imagine you play your cousin and he just grab combos you to 150% and 1 shots you 4 times in a row, you'd never play smash again, casual player or not.

  • @lliamcobb
    @lliamcobb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fire video

  • @nerrex901
    @nerrex901 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why you play 2s with other people

  • @farewell418
    @farewell418 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have went to many locals and even placed top 8 at one. I completely understand the experience of being good at this game, and the amount of hours it takes to lab, and to play nonstop. My brother never wants to play with me anymore and it makes me think that all this time i’ve put in really doesn’t bring me as much joy as hanging out with family. While I absolutely love hanging out with people at my local and the joy of seeing me in top 8 at my local was an amazing feeling, I really wish that people I see everyday would enjoy playing a casual party game with me. I an still extremely lucky to have my friends who enjoy playing Mario Kart and Smash with me but I can definitely see how heartbreaking it is when nobody wants to play with you at all. As for the video, you are extremely underrated and the commentary on this video was a 10/10. Improvements to your editing will definitely help you grow, the commentary was great and I really enjoyed it.

  • @combinegaming1353
    @combinegaming1353 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just play my worst character

  • @deathangeleas2401
    @deathangeleas2401 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean I think the reason I feel that way isn't the same, but I understand. For the smash communities fundamental way of being just doesn't work for me. They have shitty rulesets for both games that are popular, the viewers and top figure heads complain and don't care about making the community better (Also they have just shitty views about good characters especially in the new games), when they do its very back handed like with Liquid and their crypto sponsors, despite how much the melee community has been told to not be elitist and that their game isn't objectively the best, there is still excessive elitism in smash in general and just blatant bullying that is ignored at tournaments, the legacy players like leffen, mango and Nairo still refuse to actually take responsibility for their actions for being a bad influence on the community, homophobia, transphobia and ableism more then all of them still is a rather well known problem that goes unaddressed in the community, similarly I found it recently that there is a whole subsection of the community that is far right and those people apparently have not been completely removed from the community and the community has actively ruined opportunities for us that would have made smash as an esport prosper for a long time while not utterly banning people who continue to harm us with their pressence to this day like Technicals, Leffen and VGBC. Lets not forget too that Coney made a video a bit ago about stage lists and while I don't like the guy necessarily that much anyway he still has a point, the TO's don't care about our success they are just avoiding the most outcry and complaining from the community which is why they don't even try to experiment. The top players are not helpful with the rulesets either because they don't want variance they want consistency cause all they care about is winning, not how fun the game is. The commentator have left the building basically and the viewers are cannabilistic no thanks to themselves not nintendo. Like Nintendo is a parasite in all this but this community could give two shits about each other. Among many other things, but yeah I just can't find myself to go to locals where I know these people lowkey think this way, and everyone that I knew went on to play other shit because this community is just that bad. Its like what I tell the ultimate people everytime I used to argue with them: its not Smash 4 bayonetta and Ultimate Steve that are killing these games its your open hatread of them that is effecting everyone and is making everyone not want to be around you, the characters were always rather managable and were not that polorizing, its you and the communities behaviour towards these characters that has made everyone leave competitive smash. P.S. Obviously Meta Knight in brawl is not included in that last part, he actually should have been banned., same with doubles cloud in smash 4.

  • @HalfLifePlays
    @HalfLifePlays 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I relate to this super hard. We are more or less in the same position 😂

  • @SKsuprakirby
    @SKsuprakirby 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's some HOT TAKE right there.

  • @opecked
    @opecked 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    VERY well made video, good stuff homie

  • @Pawg_Alf
    @Pawg_Alf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heartbreaking: Man Too Good at Fighting Game to Enjoy Playing Against Friends But Not Good Enough to Play Competitively

  • @jorge8108
    @jorge8108 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If guilty gear gets a spot in the roster of a the next smash bros, Potemkin should be the one represinting the game

  • @therealfanmaster
    @therealfanmaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll be honest. The fact that competitive Smash plays the game with so much more limits, that honestly makes me feel as though they are making the game seem less than what it is. I am of the opinion that items, stage hazards, and time limits SHOULD be in competitive Smash. While it will have to be tweaked and looked at to prevent matches from having the game decide who wins for competitors, I feel as though it can both add to flare of matches, and allow a completely different set of skills to become part of the game. The fact is, real sports, have elements that lead to random luck deciding wins, so I don't see why it's considered evil to have the same in eSports. I know it will never happen, and that my idea does have some major flaws to look at, but at least don't dismiss it outright.

    • @dampesthydra7422
      @dampesthydra7422 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because some items are completely broken ig

    • @happymonkeyfish
      @happymonkeyfish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would recommend you look into the brawl tournament where a random kid on vacation beat one of the best players in the world. I think its Ken vs CPU on youtube. Items were on and the kid won the whole tournament cuz final smashes and items were on, people denied the results and said the kid won only by luck (imo kinda true honestly) people played smash with items on back in the day and it just caused more issues than it was worth

  • @randomistough0
    @randomistough0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    uhmm akshually.☝🤓 no it doesn't. smash is a game made for all types of players, competitive, non competitive, skillful, etc. it matters not

  • @bye1551
    @bye1551 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I call this dilemma "casual competitive standard" where you're too practised to be casual, but far too casual on attitude or time to be competitive. I suffer this in the majority of the games I play, because improvement is fun for me. I like winning. But I don't have the time to truly dedicate myself to an esport. So I get good, good enough to brag to friends but nowhere near good enough to enjoy matches against people who truly take the game seriously. I find the massive problem with fighting games especially that the majority of the skill is in knowledge, as you highlighted. Mechanical advantage you can handicap. "I won't use the optimal combo", "I'll go for fun strings only", "ok this game I've unbound block". But knowledge? How do I unlearn wave dashing? How do I unlearn a prediction I spent hours grinding years ago for a tournament? How do I just ignore that my friend always goes for 1 move when I'm airborne? It feels unfun for you, as the better player, to be more concerned with how to stop yourself playing well than actually playing the game. But it's unfun to lose because your friend had absolutely no life a few years ago. I've found online games are actually best for this. You get placed in a high rank, and basically compete with people in the same situation as you. Good enough to be out of bronze, silver or gold, not quite good enough to be master rank and not really trying to. You can play against friends and give them advantages occasionally, but it's usually fatigue that drives friends away from playing with their competitive skilled buddy, so getting the majority of my fix through ladder and supplimenting it with couch play helps to strike a balance between my skill and my friend's fun. Just what I've found works for me.

    • @IPODsify
      @IPODsify 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In any competition, a big skill gap makes a match boring. The problem with smash specifically is it's historically been advertised as the alternative to people who want to play fighting games but aren't good at them. Street fighter, Tekken, mortal Kombat, guilty gear, NOT ONE of them has ever advertised themselves that way. The same thing occured with Mario kart, but it's competitive scene is much smaller because you can't turn off items. Like think of it this way, monopoly (and fortune street) is a competitive board game, there is slight RNG but there's almost deterministic strategy there. Someone who wants a light board game experience is gonna choose candyland over it 90% of the time, if there was a candyland community making it more like monopoly you lose the intended candyland audience

  • @LikelyForgiven
    @LikelyForgiven 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Playing the same five stages for YEARS 💤 and if camping/stalling becomes an issue, that's where items come in, then dodging center stage endlessly is suddenly not such a hot idea. Smash is criminally underappreciated

  • @ruffeboi7304
    @ruffeboi7304 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You've ever heard about Team battle? Seriously though, good vid! Gave a hefty overview about the strange being that is Smash Bros. I wish that it wasn't made this deeply competitive, but with a game of this scope, it's basically unavoidable. Oh, and I joked about team battle, but it's true: If you're constantly winning against your friends in a game, team up with them and play against other players/bots! Or that's at least how me and my friends handled the skill gap. Worth a try..? Regardless, keep making videos! And don't shy away from sharing you perspective, like you did in this vid.

    • @pikmanfan21
      @pikmanfan21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have to go 1v3 against my family when we hang out on holidays. It still didn’t make a difference lol.

  • @MagmaMonika
    @MagmaMonika 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yipeee new video!!

  • @matteokhawaja
    @matteokhawaja 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video and it offers an interesting look into how a lot of these "party" games can quickly falter when one player is simply better. But it's kind of an ugly truth that better/more experienced players will almost always have a leg up in these types of games. Even if you hadn't put in your practice, there's a good chance you'd still be better if you simply played more than everyone else (the same can be said for games like Mario Kart or even Mario Party). Much like chess, the game is extremely fun when player skill is similar, and the greater the skill disparity the less fun it is for all parties involved. This isn't a fault of the game, its competitive side, or your (former) willingness to improve, it's simply a reality when dealing with any individual-based PvP game where winning is the incentive. With Smash in particular, I've always felt the ignorance to the competitive community and resistance to it's concept was a poor excuse to design the game more freely and directly or indirectly led to the problems you're describing. The best party games - regardless of type or genre - are ones where players EACH have a reasonably even chance of winning REGARDLESS of opponent skill or experience. I've always disliked how Nintendo ignores the possibility of people competing and designs their games with exclusively casual play in mind, but that's a different point entirely. Personally, I believe the best party games lean heavily into providing player experiences, collaboration, and/or pure chaos so that skill is either irrelevant or mostly doesn't influence the outcome. Smash doesn't meet these requirements the moment an individual has superior skill to those they're playing against. I would argue that Smash is a poorly designed game for its intended genre, and Nintendo flat-out ignoring and disparaging the competitive community only proves this point further. Smash is the only "party game" with a large competitive following that almost defines the game's reputation. You can't ignore the reality that Smash's design essentially INVITED competitive play, and I can't think of any other party game title that has found itself in a similar situation.

    • @SeppoCJ
      @SeppoCJ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very well articulated, however, I don't know if I can agree that the game is "poorly designed". The community manages to persist despite Nintendo's clear disapproval. While this is not an endorsement of Nintendo or their archaic approach to community events, its not a fault of the designers for having an intended demographic and sticking with it. The way Smash was designed aims to create a specific type of friendly competition. When it comes to design, it's difficult to create a game that allows for multiple diametrically opposed play groups, it's inevitable that one will be favored (even unintentionally). Competitive Smash, as seen through lens of the community that built it, is closer to a modification of the game than it is a faithful engagement with the established systems. I wouldn't call Mario 64 a poorly designed game because a group of speed runners can beat it in less than 10 minutes. Either way, thanks so much for watching/commenting! ❤️

    • @codyhanson1344
      @codyhanson1344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      love that last point you made. Plus, it's not like they didn't try to incorporate a lion's share of chaotic and diverse mechanics to mitigate the skill gap. One power up in particular in ultimate lets you summon a random npc to fight for you, allowing you to potentially win games without actually making risky or skillful attacks yourself. Maybe try playing a game where that is the only power-up. I tried that once and it became quite absurd.@@SeppoCJ

  • @pikollad
    @pikollad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CJ Khaled: Suffering from Success

  • @St3llacorps
    @St3llacorps 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super interesting!

  • @deathwingincarnate6192
    @deathwingincarnate6192 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely eye opening perspective, very well said! Even if I disagree with it.

    • @SeppoCJ
      @SeppoCJ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very well said comment! Thank you for watching <3

  • @ikkeheltvanlig
    @ikkeheltvanlig 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What, a TH-camr daring to make a balanced criticism of a gatcha?

  • @akashilla4722
    @akashilla4722 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice

  • @ajop2235
    @ajop2235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such a good dissection of the game.

  • @Snow-sx5ev
    @Snow-sx5ev 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg I can't believe you're still under 1k subs, I know its not much but I'm 981 :)

  • @Duhgel
    @Duhgel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dunno if I already commented but I'mma bump it up anyway.

  • @farikkun1841
    @farikkun1841 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda 1 year late here. Regarding relationship with gaming, do you have any activity in genshin or other game that even if it wont give any rewards like exp, primogem, chest, progression, etc you would still done that cuz its fun? Like in genshin just wandering around the map not picking up any items or kill any enemies? Or for other game like in GTA i just driving around after story complete, or back then when ps2 era i dont have memory card but still play soccer game even tho im not progressing cuz i cant save file but i still play it cuz its fun. Back to genshin, are things you consider "fun" would you still do it if theres no in-game rewards or progress???

  • @18andcloudy
    @18andcloudy ปีที่แล้ว

    I dislike how it feels so sacrilege to just say that Genshin story is on the whole just a bad, not good story. Two things - one is that it seems subjective, in part because a particular connection to certain characters or an enchantment by the world can in essence lull you into thinking its good, but also that some actually, rather conversely appreciate the cute, playful or childish nature of it, which is a profoundly okay thing to think. It's also hard to weave good gameplay in, but that's not even my foremost criticism, it's the narrative beats, lack of overarching cogency and continual reliant upon nebulous or tenuous world building that cant really be defended. Anyway, i know there are many that will agree, and the games still playable outside it, if anything it's just a divine wasted potential, and any and all further updates can't amend the fundamentally boring and uncompelling core, despite how seemingly better they are standalone.

  • @TheDarkfire9251
    @TheDarkfire9251 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad someone doing these videos finally addressed the story issues. For me there's too much contrivance to really get into it. As to the ghost\clean hands playstyle, it's very easy to lock yourself into a really conservative play that's not really needed. I replayed the last 2 missions to get these 2 achievements, and I kinda speedran it as I already explored everything. And it was a blast! I didn't get caught more than usual but I actually had fun with the mechanics for once instead of cowering on chandeliers.