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Adventures in Piano'ing
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2022
I purchased a 1983 Rhodes Mark II Stage Piano, and this is my adventure in restoring it and learning to play the piano.
As a guitar/bass player, it feels weird to say, "I just purchased my first keyboard" at my age.
As a guitar/bass player, it feels weird to say, "I just purchased my first keyboard" at my age.
Modifying Tone Bar Spring Locations
After a long hiatus, and upgrading to a fiber internet connection, I'm back with another video...
I've replaced all of the worn-out damper felts, and now move on to changing where some tone bar springs are located. Heavy-duty springs in the wrong positions were preventing me from adjusting the voicing of some of the notes, so some disassembly was required.
I've replaced all of the worn-out damper felts, and now move on to changing where some tone bar springs are located. Heavy-duty springs in the wrong positions were preventing me from adjusting the voicing of some of the notes, so some disassembly was required.
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New Damper Felts Installed
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I scraped off the almost 40-yr old, original damper felts in the Rhodes Mark II piano, and replaced them with Vintage Vibe replacement felts.
No Need To Replace Pedestal Felts?
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It seems that I will be able to reuse the pedestal felts that are already on the back of the Rhodes piano keys. With just a bit of pressure, I was able to reposition the pedestal felts properly on the keys, and they now have the factory "miracle mod" bump to help with the hammer action. Obviously, if the felts shift their positions again, I'll probably have to replace them. But, I'm wondering i...
Rhodes Mark II: Replace Screws, Washers and Grommets (Full Video)
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I removed the old tone bar screws, washers and grommets from the 1983 Rhodes Mark II Stage Piano, and replaced with new ones purchased from Vintage Vibe. There's no talking in this video, just pure ASMR enjoyment (and the sound of my cordless drill).
Disassemble The Rhodes (w/New Replacement Legs and Crossbars)
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Here I disassemble the Rhodes Mark II Stage Piano so I can give it a good cleaning. I also received the replacement Vintage Vibe legs and crossbars, so I installed those for this video.
I Bought A Rhodes Piano! Now what?
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I'm a guitar player that bought a 1983 Rhodes Mark II Stage piano. It is in OK shape, but needs a little maintenance and a few replacement parts. Come join me on my adventure to restore and play this almost 40-year old classic.
how did the project end up?
Thanks for checking in! The restore project stalled at about 95% complete. I have started tuning it with a strobe tuner that I have, but had to pause because - life. I suspect that I will have more time starting around June of 2025. Once I get it tuned, I have to adjust the action a bit because when pressed, the sustain pedal works for many keys. However, there are small sections of keys, and a couple of individual keys, that won't sustain correctly.
The first thing to do is take it to a tech.
Now they sell from $3-10k,n8se score❤
I will begin to go through the same process as you did. I have a 1981 Mark II. My question is: when you return the action rail back to the case, was the alignment easy to do? Are there any alignment issues to take note of before removing the action rail? I want to be sure that when I put everything back, I took the correct steps and considerations when getting it all back together.
Thanks so much for making this video. I am in the same boat as you described in your first video. I just purchased my first Rhodes. (I'm a guitarist). It's a 1981 Mark II, with plastic keys. It is cosmetically wonderful shape. It sounds fabulous. The keys, pickups are however something that will need some improvement. The action feels loose, and the punch is a little lacking. I know that these models generally have less punch, but I know that I can get a little more out of it. I think I will do the Vintage Vibe Refurb kit. It should be worth it...? In your opinion. Was the project worth it? How did you Rhodes sound after all this work, after the refurb? How did the action improve? Was it worth replacing all the screws, grommets, washers? That to me seems superfluous. Why would replacing the screws be an improvement? It seems that replacing the felt would make the most difference. What do you think? Should I attempt to do this refurb myself, or take it to a technician?What would you recommend?
If you have average hands-on skills, refurbishing it should be easy enough. Replacing the screws, grommets and washers was suggested other places, and did improve a couple of the tines which had bent screws and made them buzz against other tines when modifying the tine voicing (in relation to the pickups). Just have some patience while doing it. Yes, the project was worth it, to me.
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I think I will be ordering the Vintage Vibe Refurb kit, then. I think it will be worth the effort. I plan to keep this Rhodes - likely forever. It is already an amazing sounding instrument. Getting into tip top shape will be worth the effort. @@adventuresinpianoing6189
Sometimes VV grommets reduce sustain. Best to demo different brands before committing.
Good to know! Thanks.
Great Video
Thanks, Cristian.
Where did you order the legs
I ordered the replacement legs at Vintage Vibe.
That's a GREAT price for that instrument. I bought my Mark I in 2004 for $900, but that included a Fender Twin Reverb amp too!
You did very well to snap this mark II up for $600. It’s not complete but the piano mechanics are good. Nothing like a Rhodes or Wurlitzer sound
I agree. The restoration process is coming along pretty well. Sometime in the first quarter of 2023, I'm planning to have a real piano player come in to the studio for a video (an Iowa Jazz Hall of Fame inductee), and let me know his thoughts on the Rhodes sound and restoration so far.
Hi. I ordered a new leg flange because one of mine has become unusable. The holes where the screws go into also are messed up. How would you install the new one? Drill new holes?
For stripped screw holes, you could fill them in with small dowels and wood glue, then re-drill pilot holes for the screws.
The answer is: You funking well play it!
That is the goal!
Following along. I traded my Rhodes away back in the 90s. Just picked up a ‘72 Mk I that needs a full restoration. Picked up the bits from Vintage Vibe on Black Friday. Lots of work ahead. Thanks for posting.
Have fun, and good luck to you! I've been enjoying the process of restoring mine. Fixing things is a process that I enjoy. The hard bit will be learning to play piano.
Congrats on your purchase. Wooden keys? Synths never appealed to you? Get a Moog on there like a Micro or a Mini. Nothing like a Rhodes and a Moog. Prices for Vintage gear got stupid when we were getting the Covid checks. Reverb, I suspect, is artificially inflating the prices. My rule: Sight-unseen Rhodes is worth 700-750 bucks. If it needs work, I start subtracting. If it's in the hands of a connoisseur and it's been babied then up to 1000 but after that they can kiss my ass. The dealer-restored suitcases were like 3400 back in 2013 or so. Theres no reason to pay more for that or else you are approaching Vintage Vibe prices. Be very careful buying the VV parts kits, or else you might have to adjust the whole harp. If you get in touch with me I will email you a copy of the VV restoration video for it.
Unfortunately, no wooden keys. The MkII built in the 1980's changed to plastic keys. I'm still keeping my eyes open for a MkI from the 1970's, wooden keys and domed top. That was the original goal in finding a Rhodes at a decent price.
@@adventuresinpianoing6189 Those MKIIs can still sound amazing though. I have my father's '71 MKI Suitcase Seventy-Three that I use in a lot of my music. He was a classically trained Jazz pianist. In fact, if you are interested, there are two Christmas songs of his on my channel. A jazzy Rudolph, and Christmas Time is Here.
@@Rhythmicons I like both versions of the songs. Is that a photo of your Dad with Liberace in the "Christmas Time Is Here" video? Very cool!
@@adventuresinpianoing6189 Yeah, he was encouraged to go meet Liberace but didn't really want to. haha My dad passed in May, 2019. I grew up with him playing Chick Corea every day, so I tend to lean more Herbie and Chick than Wakeman/Emerson. Thanks for checking it out.
has never been a single rhodes here in sweden that ive seen for less than 3000 :( , 600 is an insane deal, cherish it :)
The prices in the United States right now are very similar to the prices you have in Sweden. Yes, I feel very lucky to have found a Rhodes for this price. Thanks for your comment!
And, even if you include the price of replacement legs and internal parts, I'm only up to about $1,100 USD for total cost of the Rhodes.
You may be correct about improper reassembly in the past but on another hand you may have had some seized springs that needed a bit of love to loosen up, the double springs may have been placed strategically for stabilization. As is the case with my MK1 I only have 2 heavy duty springs installed (in different locations on the bass end of the harp) because there are 2 tines that tend to oscillate a bit wildly and need extra stabilization. Vintage Vibe has a video about tine stabilization you can check out! So if you’re not planning to replace all the springs on your piano then I’d just keep an ear open for some wildly vibrating tines in the bass end and if you do have any just put an extra spring or one of Vintage Vibes Custom Tine Stabalizer Springs in! And as long as everything’s moving freely now and there’s no crazy tines then you should have no issues with the voicing!
I'm not planning to replace any of the springs at this point. I only have one tine that buzzes too much for my pleasure, and that is when I'm releasing the key back to the resting position, and it is striking the damper felt. However, quite a few of the MKII's that I've seen have had the rubber platform under the highest tines replaced with two sets of screws/washers/grommets like the others in the piano. I might think about doing that upgrade.
@@adventuresinpianoing6189 that’s how mine is also setup at the highest tines. With 2 sets of screws and grommets, I believe that was stock on the MK1! Anyways seems like you’ve got a great instrument, nothing beats a Rhodes, enjoy it! I’ve got a video on my channel of me recording mine after the restoration and upgrades incase you wanna hear it. Cheers
HOLY SHIT 600?
I know! I was extremely happy to find the deal.
Subbed!. Love electronics and music
These are two of my favorite hobbies also. Thanks for subscribing. I should have another video on the tone bar spring situation soon.
Congrats. That is an absolute steal at today's prices. I have a Mark I that is fairly late, and close to the point of the Mark II introduction. No difference really. Enjoy it. My advice: don't be in too much of a rush to 'restore' it mechanically. Get to know it first and learn about how it is regulated. It is not as simple as it appears. When you do make regulation changes, go slow and check you are improving things as you go rather than applying a change across the full key range. It's quite possible to go backwards in tone rather than forwards with well-meaning tweaks, tip replacements etc, etc.
I'm really enjoying learning the workings of the instrument, and one day, hope to have it in top notch condition. And, definitely not in a hurry with this. Thanks for your comment and advice.
Just got a MKII 88 key recently. It great but it has a bad tine or two to fix.
Sounds like that will be a quick fix. I hope you are thoroughly enjoying it!
Can you play it so we can hear it.
Yes, I will be posting an upcoming video where the Rhodes is being played. I, however, am not a keyboard player, so I would not do it justice. Once I put it all back together, I'll bring in a real keyboard player! :-)
You should get a Retro Flyer Pre Amp to go with it. It's very easy to install and sounds significantly better. Plus, once you sell the Mark 2, you can just take the pre amp out, put the old internals back in, and put them into the Mark 1 you're looking for. Also $600!? That's a steal. I got my Mark 1 for 1300. Anyways, congrats on your Rhodes. Looking forward to seeing more
I feel very fortunate to have bought this for $600. Prices for them are crazy right now. For now, I'm just going to use my old 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb (not reissue) to preamp/amplify the Rhodes. I've got the next video almost ready to go. The script is written. I just need to record the segment. I'm a bit behind because my father-in-law passed away, and I had a round of COVID-19. But, I should be posting another video shortly. Thanks for your comment!
600 for a project Rhodes is a fair price.
@@adventuresinpianoing6189 OMG 600 bucks what a steal 👏 That Retro flyer makes the Mark 2 sound like butter
600$ Dollars for a rhodes .. its great to live in the usa
Agreed! I feel fortunate to have stumbled across this deal.
That's an unbelievable find! Typically I've seen prices for Rhodes in good condition but needing restoration running $1200-$2500. I would think even the rougher condition ones would fetch around $1000 if they're mostly complete.
Especially when you consider a brand new Rhodes mark 8 is $9000-$10000 depending on how you customize it. They're so amazing though. You can get built in effects and preamps, and just the incredible quality of them is astounding. Doctor Mix did a great video on the whole walkthrough of where/how they're made with some fun demos. I bet they're easier to maintain than the vintage ones, but there's some magic charm to the old ones with their wobbly keys and unstable tuning and quirky electronics.
I'm the same as you, a guitar player who became interested in electric piano over that past few years. I had been searching for a Rhodes right about this same time as you and you are correct in that any well cared for and functional Rhodes is going for about $2,500 right now. I don't find these prices to be crazy if you think of the Rhodes (especially a Fender) the way you would a vintage guitar. It might also be of interest to folks watching to know That Vintage Vibe (whom you mentioned for parts), makes their own updated version and they seem quite nice. Best of luck on your Rhodes trip (intentional pun) and hoping you will be enjoying some classic electric piano tunes soon.
True about a vintage instrument prices. The Vintage Vibe pianos look great, and I'd love to own one someday, but I am trying to stay on a fairly small budget for this project. I feel kinda lucky tracking down a Mark II in playable condition for a price that was in a range for me to purchase. Did you find one to purchase in your search? Thanks for the well-wishes, and I wish the same for you!
We have to stop being okay with those inflated prices. There were so many Rhodes made, and so many of them available for sale in various locations that we should be able to shop around and not be subjected to nonsense. That's four times the price for a suitcase in 2013.
Great job man. The black felts are factory original and are a very good quality felt.
Good to know! I've got a replacement set on the way. I'm probably going to change them all, just on principle, since they are approaching 40 years old. And, the white damper felts look in worse shape. Thanks for commenting!
@@adventuresinpianoing6189 The white felts on these are a very hard to find woven felt that although looks compressed, does a very good job. I always leave these old felts as they perform well in the main. Some of the new alterntives can cause noise on the note release. The same woven felt was used on the MKV piano as on these late MK2's.
@@goldphinga With the white felts, I'm getting some buzzing when I release the keys. There doesn't seem to be enough loft left in them to mute them cleanly, and they kinda buzz to a stop. I've ordered the Vintage Vibe replacements. Do you have an opinion of those?
I just found out that the order for my Rhodes legs, support bars, and the screws/grommets has been delayed in the UPS system. So, probably no work on the piano this long Memorial Day weekend...