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Yes. Do you know anything about him or that situation? It sure is an entertaining one to watch!

Thank you; I appreciate the feedback! -- Joe

RONR is silent on such specific issues. However, if the gossip is detrimental to the organization and/or is bad enough to warrant disciplinary action, you can invoke the procedure in RONR (12th ed.) 61:22 -- Offenses Elsewhere Than in a Meeting; Trials. If you question regards breach of the confidentiality of an executive session, the same section would apply. Alternatively, you could just move to censure the officer for such improper conduct.

Unfinished business involves motions that are carried over from the prior meeting without having been disposed of. So, since there will already be a main motion on the floor, you can make any appropriate secondary motion, but not a new main motion. If you have a main motion to make, it would be appropriate to do that during New Business, which is usually the next item on most agendas.

Thank you, yes, I'll be doing that in future recordings. Live & learn! If there is a particular question you cannot hear, post the time that the question is asked and I'll type the question here.

ANY decision! Appeals are probably most commonly used during Points of Order, but they can be used on any decision of the chair. For example, you can appeal from the decision of the chair when the chair rules a motion out of order.

Thanks, Cole, I am definitely planning to record more. These are generally recorded at our annual RONR Workshops that are held by my local Unit of the National Association of Parliamentarians. If desired, you can likely find a Unit near you on the NAP website at parliamentarians.org.

@@practicalrobertsrules8609 Thank you for that suggestion I certainly will. I reside within Chicago, and I'm learning Roberts Rules for our Local, most of us are Bus Drivers. Unfortunately the practices by our current regime, used to end meetings, are underhanded. Our chair allows for a little vocal disruption to take place, and has one of his men ask for an adjournment, the Chair didn't state the motion loudly and clearly or settle the disruption so we can hear, he asked for the vote, and declared adjournment. He ignored my requests to continue bc we had biz, he wouldn't do division, and I pointed out he didn't clearly state the motion. So we're working on it. I think we're gonna move to fix the time at which to adjourn, at the beginning of the meeting.

@@heathen2328 Cole, you are in good company; almost the exact same thing just happened at the State Meeting of a political party in my state. Overcoming a tyrannical chair is a huge challenge, but it can be done. The first step is to get your membership familiar with RONR so that they can all identify when rules are being broken, know how to respond, and be empowered to jump in and take action when necessary during meetings. It is much more difficult for a chair to break the rules when they know they are being watched by numerous, knowledgeable members!

Easy -- just rise and state "I rise to a question of personal privilege" -- and then state it. Could be as simple as asking to have the spelling of your name corrected in minutes that have already been approved in your absence, or it could require a motion. If the situation requires that you make a motion, then make it, and it should be treated like any other motion. RONR (12th ed.) 19:7 -11 has an excellent description of the process if you need more detail than this.

Not really. You can attempt to invoke "general parliamentary law", which would consist of the features that are common to all the various Rules of Order that have been published over the last two centuries. (There are many, but RONR is by far the most popular.) This "law" is not well defined, but would consist of the basic principles such as "majority rules" and the ability to introduce business by way of motions, etc. You could also attempt to invoke RONR, but it would not be binding, only "persuasive" in your situation. My advice: examine your bylaws or constitution and follow the procedure found there to amend them to invoke RONR as your parliamentary authority. See RONR (12th ed.) 56:49 for the recommended wording to do that. And good luck!

@@practicalrobertsrules8609 thank you for your reply. My group owned the last union membership meeting!!!

@@maiello2169 So glad to hear that! It is my mission to restore rightful power, as defined in RONR, to the membership of organizations. It is the MEMBERS who comprise the organization, but, far too often, leadership tries to suppress the will of the majority.

It's not too late! In one organization that I serve (the one referred to in the hearing clips in the above video), enough of the membership is now so enraged by proxy abuse that limiting proxy use has become a real possibility. I'll keep this channel informed. (And thank you, Altera, for the kind words.)

Thank you, Henries.

Thank you for the kind words, Archduke. Just a note: the information in this video might not apply to the legislative representatives that you refer to. Legislatures often use rules of order other than RONR, so many things discussed here unfortunately might not apply. Check to see what their parliamentary authority is, then you can be sure.

@@practicalrobertsrules8609 Thank you for that note! I meant "legislative representatives" as representatives of local organizations, local school councils, etc. that use RONR, I couldn't think of what to call them in a general sense, so I said "legislative representatives" :) Thx again for that note tho!

11th. I'll eventually make another version of this with the 12th, or at least post a cross reference here. Thankfully, until then, the 11th edition is still widely available. Thanks for the reminder, Nate!

@@practicalrobertsrules8609 It's been a year. I'm waiting for the same thing.

@@davidtreibs I know, I know. Haven't forgotten, but have been overwhelmed with serving and making live presentations. Bear with me a little longer -- I'll get it done by early August of this year. Sooner if I can. Thank you for your interest!

@@practicalrobertsrules8609 While I have your attention, you mentioned agendas, and how that is an important tool for manipulating meetings, or for stopping manipulation. Do you have something on agendas?

@@davidtreibs I do, but have not yet recorded a presentation for it. If/when I do, it will appear here: practicalrobertsrules.com

You're welcome. I hope this helps you in the never-ending fight for Liberty!

Thank you, yaxomoxay. This comes from personal experience.

Yes, the chair, as a member of the assembly, has the right to vote on the appeal. See RONR (12th ed.) 24:3 (7). (BTW, the 12th edition was published last September, thus the different style citation.)

That is a really interesting question! Both the chair and the parliamentarian have a duty to maintain a position of impartiality (RONR (12th ed.) 47:55), so there is no fundamental reason preventing this. However, if the char of the Pima County B.O.S. does not maintain a position of impartiality (that is, if he participates in debate, and/or votes on any questions that aren't conducted by secret ballot), then it is certainly unwise for him to be the parliamentarian.