วีดีโอ

Actually my real argument is that leaving comments like this makes you a scrub. You’d know that if you watched the video :)

Yeah it's always worse when the gankers know how to use invader tools like golem arrows. Clearly they tried invading before and couldn't handle losing so they resort to griefing. I try to remember that I'll never be as much of a cringe loser as these scrubs who just want to ruin my day.

Thanks man! I feel this is becoming a more discussed topic in the community since the DLC. We're all feeling the life drain out of pvp in real time and forced to create our own fun. And it's so exhausting when you only have so many hours to yourself.

I also did a pvp run and I got pretty tilted more than a few times lol. Had to take a bit of break after I completed it. Cool that it got you into that side of the game though, stick with it!

@@Weird_B0nes Updates to that. I was invading last night and thought of pausing for the day, but I went for a few more. I stumbled upon a coop who had the late game stuff, but either had little health or no upgrades on flasks. Even though I died in the end, I killed the coop and the guy dropped a wopping 300k RUNES! You can't imagine just how euphoric I was! I could lvl up 30 levels and buy a lot of stuff!! Really the boost I needed hahahah!

I didn't say the point is to win

No? At 01:28 it sounded as though you had.

@@alex_pearlMaybe my tone was off. My point is more how *most* players will view pvp when the souls version doesn’t gel with that. “After all the point of pvp is to win” was meant to be more of a “well this is what somebody would probably say”. Worth calling out.

@@Weird_B0nes Ah. Understandable. 👍🏻

The spamfest invasions are the ones that can get me tilted sometimes. Hate having to wait my turn to do anything at all. If I'm full on flasks, worth leaving the AFK blues alone. But if I need that refill I take the freebie. I was just so fed up with the constant summons with these guys and I wanted to isolate them as much as possible. Not sure how educational my mid gameplay will be, but thanks for checking it out!

@@Barebonesboyan humongous showdown

Or to give up and come back another day ; )

real and true

Hell yeah good mentality

So true bestie

Couldn't agree more. Especially about the hate mail, which is like losing a second time lol. Even if you know deep down that you could beat them one-on-one, it's not a duel.

Exactly! Invaders are basically role-playing the bad guy. Never expect respect or fairness from a host.

One of my best shitpots in recent memory lol. Really makes you wonder why some people choose to spend their time like this.

@@Weird_B0nes i see what you mean but I've honestly stopped guessing now. I just have fun with the game and post whatever i feel like it's fun here on youtube. That's all i ask from elden ring 🤣

The mind of a host is not worth pondering

What a battle! Nicely done. Also, is that Metroid Prime music I hear?

Yes it is

Crazy thing is if you go and actually read the interview I quote in the video you'll see that Miyazaki doesn't want people to *have* to use guides, but recognizes it as a "perfectly valid playstyle" and they "we expect that". He does not say that they *shouldn't* use guides, as if it's against his vision. Just that they do not design around the usage of guides. He even concedes that there's room for improvement on the dev's part if people are feeling lost or left out of the experience. There's nuance.

@@Weird_B0nes I don’t think there’s a Dev out there who would flat out gatekeep his own game and drive away customers. I use a guide on my second play thru. I respect the game and the studio too much to not grant one attempt to play blind, as intended.

You are indirectly of implying that blind playthroughs are the real way to "respect" the game and the studio. Is someone disrespecting them by not playing blind? Seems very black and white and passive aggressive. And yeah it's nice that you have this special relationship with the games like many do. But you're doing exactly what I argue against doing in the video. You are prescribing "intent" based on your own rules for play. It just seems to be assigning some intangible value to playing the game a certain way.

@@Weird_B0nes people who use guides on a first run, although not all of them (some know exactly what they want) , have never played blind. So how can they know which is better ? Or how can they know what they would enjoy if they only rush to use guides without experiencing the other way? I would never tell someone who uses guides they’re playing wrong, if they knew what they were doing. But so many players fall into a trap and do it without knowing the other side. “If I asked people what they wanted, they would’ve said faster horses” Henry Ford Sometimes people don’t know what they want until they experience it. Someone who uses guides out of the gate, cannot possibly know if they’d prefer going in blind until they actually give it a chance. Humans often rush to optimize everything if given the chance, it’s a human condition. Sometimes they shoot themselves in the foot by having a less than stellar time and then base an opinion around a subpar experience. I try and tell new players just play the game , you don’t need ten tabs open. It does kill the immersion. Some people rather that, and that’s fine. Some don’t know what they want, so maybe try first before killing the first experience that you only get once. What do u have to lose if it doesn’t work out? Then open a guide. Why take the chance ? Using a guide is playing someone else’s experiences and you’re stripping your own by doing that. Again, if they actually want that, who am I to tell them not to? What I do is, ask ppl to make sure that’s what they actually want, and not just something they feel like they need to do.

I don't care much for visual spectacle, just reliable, responsive animations. Poke attacks are some of the best in pvp because majority of people will keep panic rolling and get vortexed. That said, the whole great katana moveset is solid, and is elevated even further with the right Ashes of War.

@@Weird_B0nes you have to learn how to wavedash, the cr1 is the best thing about the gk imo

Agreed the crouch is fantastic, especially with the talisman that boosts it. Believe me I'm utilizing it where possible! I need a new controller soon tho because the crouch button on mine is consistently getting stuck lately :(

@@Weird_B0nes I would recommend swapping ur crouch and jump buttons (crouch on X and jump on L3), it takes a second to learn but really helps

I use a Dualshock with 2 back buttons (1 mapped to roll, the other to crouch), because of wrist tendon issues. So the problem is that back button sticking. It's a similar issue with the triangle button too. I wish "pro" controllers had more consistent quality and held up for more than a year. I can't claw grip nowadays so the back buttons really are necessary. I really appreciate the suggestion though, I might give that I whirl!

Flame Strike is my go-to because its very good at controlling multiple opponents and has a lot of opportunity for free-aiming and followups. Close second would be sword dance since the last hitbox will usually catch people with decent latency.

@@robertmenottis8989 first one is from Smash Bros Melee. Second one is Hollow Knight. Third is Metroid Prime 3

I'm very glad you got something meaningful out of my ramblings!

And you know this how? I don’t personally shame anyone for using summons. What I do is, encourage people who are capable, not to. I can’t help but share my experiences with something I love, to someone else who’s engaging it. I summoned all the time and the games were always just okay. When I solod ds3, that’s when they became my favorite games ever and really all I play now.

@@stevemichael652 ​​⁠it’s really common knowledge. Do you ever see high level speed runners, challenge runners, mod creators, or people who have achieved anything notable talking down on people summoning? Or is it usually the denizens of x social media platform who believe that because they simply beat the game, they get to decide that someone else is inferior because they beat the game differently? Take it like this - if someone as good as Let Me Solo Her spent time publicly shaming people for summoning, we quite literally wouldn’t have the legacy we know today

@@Over9000Chainz I think people have a hard time accepting a reality that, doesn’t change despite what internet prowlers say. It is an irrefutable fact that summoning other players makes the game less challenging. Youre not as engaged with mechanics, boss encounters, room for era increases tenfold so on. The problem isn’t that people are shaming those who summon help. I run a souls group on FB, 160 K members. It’s incredibly rare I see someone actually shaming someone else for summoning. The vast majority of people summon. Non summoners are a minority. If I see it, it may be once every few months, and they get banned. the problem is when people who beat the game solo, don’t validate the experience of those who summoned friends. And they don’t have to. If you password up with a friend or two, and steamroll the game from beginning to end by hiding in the corner while ur coop tanks bosses and everything inbetween, your experience and my experience are not the same. Someone who spent 2 days on Messmer , learning his moves and finally beating him and being filled with euphoria, is supposed to put the guy who steamrolled him with two phantoms on the same level? It’s simply not going to happen. I’m not going to shame them, but I will say something like “man that boss was really tough for me, you should try it yourself sometime”. The problem is people who summon demand a pat on the back, and validation , and they don’t deserve it. I’m tired of people who solo the game get called sweats and try hards, yea I see A LOT of that in the community. I see solo players getting shamed by people who “have jobs” and “no time” to “sit in their mom’s basement” and actually learn the fucking game they’re playing. Give me a break.

@@Over9000Chainz I run a FB souls group with 160 K members, and I’ll say maybe once every few months will I actually see someone shaming someone who summons. And they get banned. A vast majority of people summon especially with ER and the dlc bringing in an entire new huge audience. Solo players are the minority. The problem is not shaming cooperators. The problem is when solo players don’t validate them. And they don’t have to. If I spend two days beating a boss, and someone passwords with two of their friends and stun locks that same boss into oblivion on their first try, we aren’t playing the same game. People who summon need to accept they’re playing a multi player campaign for different reasons than a solo player. You know what I see an awful lot of? People who summon calling solo players try hards and sweats, and how unlike them, they have jobs and don’t have the time to learn the game they’re playing. That’s all I see in the community. If you want credit, or to have your experience validated, start with yourself. Because anyone who summons, and then feels bad if someone says something, must be insecure otherwise they wouldn’t care. Again, being mean and shaming people is wrong across the board. But when there’s a discourse and an honest discussion happening around these games, you can’t expect a solo player to validate a summoner. It’s pretty entitled to do that.

@@Over9000Chainz I run a Souls group on FB. 160 K members and maybe once every few months will I see someone actually shame someone for cooperating , and they get banned. The problem isn’t shaming others for summoning, the problem is more so, solo players not validating their experience. And why should they? If I beat a boss after 20 tries solo and you do it summoning , on your first, we aren’t playing the same game. I shouldn’t be expected to validate your experience when you steamrolled a boss that took me hours to conquer. But you know what I do see a lot of? I see a lot of people shaming solo players and calling them try hards and sweats with too much time on their hands. Almost like, “hey I have a job and kids I don’t have time to learn the game I’m playing”. I see that context every day. So give me a break.

It's a super unique system that others have tried to replicate to varying success. Definitely not to be discounted.

I’m glad the point came across clearly :)

@@Weird_B0nes Less is more, Bye. /stops 20 seconds in cause he just made your entire video pointless.

Attention spans are different for everyone! I like to spell out the many reasons and supporting evidence behind "yeah if you want", because that's how arguments are constructed. Maybe next time consider listening to more than 20 seconds of the video before judging it's quality. Hope this helps :)

I think any approaches are totally valid, as long as you don't try to instruct others on what is "intended" or "legitimate". I've done try hard runs and super casual ones. Pros and cons to each type! But I do agree that the community attitude around the topic could be much healthier and welcoming than it is.

Always good to be self aware. Not sure if I'd use the term "fault" for anyone needing a guide, since it's I don't consider it a shortcoming on the player's part. But definitely agree with your overall point!

No :)

Sorry to hear your friend reacted like that over basically nothing! Sounds like he cared more about comparing himself to you rather than actually enjoying his time with the game. Sadly not uncommon...