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@@ORNG370 I had the stock exhaust in this video. Yes in second gear the gain is objectively noticeable : traction control (set up at 3) is very easily triggered. It can be seen multiple times in this video and this is not something that happens with the stock setup. Strangely, in 6 gear, 100 km/h to 120 km/h roll up, I did not see any gain. Maybe the gain of this mod is neutralized by a worse laminar flow due to the missing snorkels? No idea...

The maxi scooter was only better under heavy rain or when riding with a passenger. Wind wasn't an issue for me and riding the motorbike was always much more fun. The scooter engine seemed gutless vs the SV's. Since then, I sold both vehicules and bought a trail (V-STROM 800 SE) which is a perfect fun overall motorbike for me.

No, the V-STROM 800 (even with a top case and the accessories I mentioned in the video description) is faster than the SV650. I owned one, see this video : th-cam.com/video/5bJaR7mSw84/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iQXPESjTDTwGp5f4 On real world use, the 800 has also a much better recovery.

Salut, mon S400 était un modèle euro 4 équipé d'un variateur Polini high speed (acheté comme ça d'occasion). Jusqu'à 60-70 km/h, il était plus vif que le TL 508 avec des galets de 13g. Il ferait donc parfaitement l'affaire en utilisation urbaine. Ce que l'on gagne avec le 508 est un meilleur comportement routier, meilleures suspensions (rendant le duo très confortable) et le bruit envoûtant du bicylindre. Le 508 est supérieur dans l'ensemble mais pour une utilisation urbaine, le 400 serait un excellent choix également.

Thanks, I starting riding motorcycles 10 months ago, so I am indeed a beginner. I rode automatic maxi scooters beforehand and where I live, I was able to buy directly a non power limited motorcycle without any additional course or test.

Well, your Suzuki is an excellent motorcycle to ride for experienced and less experienced riders😊

4.51 seconds (GPS measurement)

On my TL 508, I had an issue with excessively high oil consumption (~0.75L/1000km). Initially, I was told that the tolerance is up to 1L/1000km, but the issue was escalated to SYM, and my engine was replaced under warranty at 4000 km. This problem seems to affect very very few models (my dealer had heard of only one other case in Switzerland). Since the replacement of my engine, it still consumes a bit of oil (~0.25L/1000km), but I frequently use highways, and I've also installed 13g rollers at 5000 km (which means the engine revs higher). Apart from that, eveything is fine.

What was the reason of excessive oil consumption? I'm looking for a maxi scooter too and the 508 TL is one of the scooters I'm eyeballing.

I think it was a piston/cylinder manufacturing defect only impacting a few units. I didn't get more details.@@Mr.Riffian

You perfectly summarized it ! I never tried to test the max speed, I managed to reach around 150 km/h without any issue. I actually had my engine replaced under warranty at around 4000 km because the engine oil consumption was high (greater than 0.5 liter per 1000km). No issue since then. Still a bit of oil consumption, but that could be because I do a lot of highway (regularly up to 120 km in one day). I installed 13gr rollers and my consumption is around 4.8 L/100 km. These light rollers improve significantly the performance, here is a comparison I made: th-cam.com/video/_TmHMpB3y8U/w-d-xo.html

@@vincent2167 Wow that's a pretty serious stuff...Replacing engine at only 4000km is a big deal. Are you famiIiar that this problem happened on anyone else or it was just yours as an isolated unit?I hope it won't happen on mine...🙄But i guess you only get as much you pay. TL 508 is almost half the price of Yamaha Tmax and almost 6000 euro less than Honda Xadv in my country. You can never go wrong with the Japanese but they are too expensive...

@@strezification The oil consumption issue was there from the start (I already noticed it during the break-in period). If you don’t have this problem on your model, you shouldn’t worry at all. It is not a widespread issue, I have only heard about one other case on my side.

@@vincent2167 I've only made like 400km so far and i haven't checked the oil level until now. After how many km would you consider that the break in period is done? Thank you

@@strezification 1000 km (time of the first oil change)

Hello, yes it is 25x15mm.

If you often ride solo in the city, a lighter lower cc scooter could indeed make more sense. Past 50 km/h the TL 508 is much faster than any 350/400cc scooter (especially over 100 km/h). I had a Kymco Xciting S with a Polini variator just before this one, so I speak from experience. As I ride a lot on the highway for my commute, this scooter is significantly better. It is not in the same league of smaller cc scooters in terms of : - Handling : The TL has a motorbike like chassis - Suspension : So much more comfortable according to my passenger - Acceleration at highway speed Cherry on the cake: The exhaust noise of this 2 cylinders is great.

@@vincent2167 I agree with you but only if ride 80/20 in favor of highway, majority of scooter riders, ride their vehicles in urban areas and rarely ride on highways during the year. So most of riders appreciate 350-400 because of their nippiness. My opinion is that if i really have lots of highway rides i would always go with proper motorcycle instead of any scooter for that matter. Especially if you take in consideration the price of 500+cc scooters. For me it is pointless to purchase yamaha tmax for example for 18.000 eur instead of Tracer 9 GT for same price or less. Or honda xadv 750 instead of Africa Twin, NT 1100 or Trans Alp 750.

I didn't test the top speed with the speed limitations around. On the 13gr, I reached one time 154 km/h (141 km/h GPS). The RPM was around 6750 which is the maximum power band of the scooter, which means that until 154 km/h, we don't lose in acceleration vs a stock 15 gr setup.

@@vincent2167 thank you very much

I wsnt to buy. Do you kbow the exact detail?

It is very comfortable to drive at that speed (didn't notice any disturbing vibrations). I drive a lot on the highway and the scooter is perfectly suited for that. Good protection, handling and enough power.

I haven't tested it

I've seen someone hitting 167kh

It's in France, but the location is not very far from Switzerland

I am very happy with my purchase. Here is a quick comparison with my former EURO 4 Kymco Xciting S 400 equiped with a Polini variator: TL 508 pros: - Much better comfort and stability when driving - Very smooth transmission which allows to drive relaxed in short city ride (it was very on/off on my xciting, probably due to the Polini variator) - Slight performance increase at high speed - I LOVE the sound of the bicylinder TL 508 cons: - Not the fastest to take off from a green light (the S400 was quicker from 0 to 50-60 km/h) - For my usage, I found more convenient to have a handbrake on the handlebsar rather than the side stand braking implemented on the TL - Chain transmission which required some maintenance For my usage which includes regularly 130km of highway in one day, the TL perfectly fits my needs. For someone who is only doing city driving and wants the best acceleration within city speed limits, a EURO4 S400 with a variator may be a better choice (can't comment on the EURO5 version which is less powerful).

@@vincent2167 Wow, a very informative and thorough response. And what about fuel consumption? Cause I've heard that the TL can be a bit thirsty when you roll the throttle a bit more.

​@@georgem2456 There is some variability indeed. Driving normally, my consumption was around 4.7 / 100 km. During more intense sessions, it was more around 5.3L / 100 km.

@@vincent2167 These are good numbers to be honest. If you put a Polini 12ball kit, you would get the best you can have from the TL. In Greece many people have tested the Malossi kit, the Polini 8ball kit and the Polini 12ball kit and the last one is the best

The speedometer is approximately 10% more optimistic than the GPS

The speedometer is approximately 10% more optimistic than the GPS

What is top speed

@@serkangzts I did not test it. 130 km/h GPS is reached without difficulty.

@@vincent2167 thanks for your answer