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Not sure if TH-cam changed it but it has like 8seconds of black screen then it starts. I don’t remember it doing that but it’s been a long time since I posted it

@@x-ringcustomgunsmithing942 I see. Probably hates the "Machine gun" or "full Auto" part and/or something in the vid that was detected but very unfortunate. Thanks for the reply anyway!

Yeah they are definitely not full 45/70 loads for sure. Customer provided them with the revolver when we did this to test fire

I have heard it was used for a short time in prison control but they removed it due to the number or rounds per second and the lack of recoil so the pattern of bullets on target was far to dense.

I have heard it was used for a short time in prison control but they removed it due to the number or rounds per second and the lack of recoil so the pattern of bullets on target was far to dense.

Gotta use good ammo. Not thunderbolts or Winchester white box

Runs best with CCI Stinger!

Ammo choice is perennial, as said. With .22LR automatics of any kind, semi or full, you _generally_ want some ammo which advertised to be a bit more powerful, and something which is less dirty also helps, but after running a whole drum with a gun like this, you'll still wanna do a quick wipedown afterwards regardless of chosen ammo.

Yeah.......only it is 30 rds/sec!!!!!

Kinda like sex lol

Actually, it's about 10 minutes of loading. Still though...

@@classifiedveteran9879 and that’s ten minutes well spent, for sure!

@@brocknspectre1221 Fair point...

That is the only down side to that gun. Lot of loading one at a time… ha ha

i figured i'll probably get 20 mags for mine so i can load one a day when i'm bored. just have to wait for the government to approve 2 form 4s. :(

American-180

Kinda...🤣😂🤣

what??

@@aidangough9293 you know, ur there with the woman shooting and she says to you, it smells like farts and she is upset and wats to go home and you realise you dont have woman, forget

That's because he pays them to shit on his chest

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Ahhh, murica

Web address is www.x-ringcustomgunsmithing.com all the info is on there

Yeah you can see about 3/4 of the original sights in the bottom of the window. So they are still usable.

Not sure when this one was made. Your right they were going to use it as a prison riot gun till it was sawing people up with the 20 rounds a second coming out. To many rounds in a small area due to no recoil so the scrapped that as an option.

In a situation where this was intended, an unarmed crowd charging you, its really not necessary (or perhaps even desirable) to be as efficient as killing as possible but this is still deadly force. People are usually gonna reconsider pretty their actions pretty quick when you turn the first waves chests to ground meat but the other people will be a lot less injured than if you'd been firing rifle rounds through 4 people at once

Thanks to Brandon Herrera for the lesson on the American 180 I was told that back then less lethal literally meant less lethal, no rubber ammunition, beanbag shotgun just 22LR pop a few to the prisoner’s leg and there your less lethal.

Someone may have had that thought, but that doesn't mean that this was actual reality, one short trigger press easily lets loose a half or full dozen shots, which isn't all that far from a shotgun shell with No.4 Buckshot, and consider that even with this relatively short barrel, you're getting much more velocity than with most .22 caliber pistols. With one of the longer rifle barrels, you'd get even more speed, and .22LR actually has pretty respectable energy with each individual shot at that point, now multiply that with a handful of them which are easily focused on target. Again, almost like a shotgun, except much more range and there's no recoil to talk about. There is a documented case of police using these once to engage two armed suspects in a car, the suspects shoot at them, so the cop leans out the window as his partner is driving and he returns fire at them with the American 180, letting off about a second of fire. The driving suspect is seriously injured, and the shooting suspect dies on the scene. Rhodesian soldiers also used some of these guns with suppressors during the Rhodesian Bush War, and a low cost clone with a plastic body was made in Yugoslavia, being used some in the wars there as Yugoslavia stopped being Yugoslavia. Together with a suppressor, one of these would be a terrifying ambush weapon.

Yes you can still see the sights of you do it this way and don’t use an adapter plate. The sights can be seen in the bottom of the window if the optic failed or battery dies. They don’t stick up like a suppressor sight wood but they could be used

Did you end up doing this? I have same setup and hate that the adapter plate doesn’t allow cowitness with irons. Were you able to get them to cowitness well?

@@jaynawinehouse Yes. I used a Dremel and took the two pins down flush and shaved a little off the other two so it would sit flat on the reciever. The metal of the reciever is pretty hard so I used a cutoff wheel. You have to be careful to keep from marring things up. I used some Superblue to touch up the bare metal. Looks great! Sits low enough to cowitness. It would have been nice to have a drill press and bottom mill but if you have a steady hand, the Dremel works fine. I had to grind a little and test fit, grind some more and test fit till it was just right. Go slow.

What is the benefits of co witness? Wouldn't that make the irons a distraction from the red dot, hence defeating the purple of the dot?

If the dot fails or if it has moved, you will still be able to use the iron sights.@@truthtalker7774

@@truthtalker7774 Back up if the red dot goes down. (Dead battery)

Starts stacking and adds another layer to potentially come loose...

If you found one for 5k you found a rare thing. Most I have seen are around 20k for full autos

You should be fine as long as you got around 1500 bottlecaps

man and i felt good only paying 18 for mine l0l gl

Yea try more like $20K.

@@x-ringcustomgunsmithing942 Maybe the one he's looking at is a sample, or he's an SOT and he wants to convert a semi-auto one? Sample MGs can often be a lot less expensive, but that depends on if there are actually more of those around. Really fun MGs such as these are usually valued very high though, as noted, which is why stuff like 9mm SMGs and converted 10/22s only keep climbing in price.

Send me an email to xringcustomgunsmithing@hotmail.com and we can get get a quote to you

They M4x.7 threads

Yes they sit low in the window but you can see the factory irons with the direct mount no adapter.

Always try to avoid stacking issues. The adapter plates raise the optic a lot higher which makes back up irons more difficult to obtain. Plus I have seen where the adapter plates come loose and people don't catch it. Keep it simple. Although I have seen people mess this up. I have had one come into my shop where it looked like they used a 6" angle grinder to modify the slide...

@@x-ringcustomgunsmithing942 yeah a lot of people think they’re gunsmiths from watching a couple videos. Typically the issues I see are the customers error not torquing correctly and not using blue loctite or too much. The HOB and being taller than stock sights is corrected with suppressor hight sights or taller sights which trijicon is starting to come out with for proper cowitnessing. Removing material from the slide should definitely be left to a competent smith, but mechanically inclined people can definitely do this job.

Yeah we have provided this service for a lot of individuals sending us the slides from around the country to get it done correctly after them seeing this video.

@@x-ringcustomgunsmithing942 those are the smart ones lol so many people jack up their guns and have no business working on an erector set let alone firearms. However, it keeps work comin in! Lol