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History's Heartbeat
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2019
Have you ever felt as if History was just a bunch of old dead guys doing stuff that had no effect on the world today? Have you ever had a history teacher who bores you to tears by talking in a monotone voice about nothing but "Acts," and "taxes?" Looking for historical knowledge that's a little more alive? History's Heartbeat is the channel for you, striking to the core of little-known historical events, giving them a personable, lively touch.
Italy In WW2: an Honest Look
We've all heard the running jokes about Italy in WW2. How much of it is true? How much of it is unfair? Why have they gained such a reputation? What may have caused such a debacle? Find out in today's episode of... History's Heartbeat!
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Very good analysis, but you're forgetting something: 1) The Germans attempted at Hitler life a few times. Had they succeded they would have asked for peace as well. Otherwise what was the point? They just were unlucky. 2) Italians didn't have the Soviet, true. they actually had the nazi occupation which was brutal. In facts Italians kept fighting in Italy until 1945 and Italian resistance was one of the fiercest with Rome being the European capital that gave the Germans the hardest time.
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Stop music . It ruins video.
Mussolini forever to be hated for what he did to his fellow Italians, what shame there is is his and his alone
Great job! Keep going!
not of Italy surrender or changed sides
Don't believe everything you read in the History books History is written by the winners who overhyped their victory and belittled their opponent's
I agree but you are missing the main point, Italy fought in terrain that was highly unfavorable, try to think about a single war that italy fought in since the 1870 that DIDN'T have terrible terrain, not ethiopia, not libya, not the alps, not greece. Italy preformed quite well in yugoslavia or the eastern front mainly due to the not terrible supply.
I came to goon, to Mussolini.
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thanks to france and frenc to exist
The book, "MUSSOLINI'S WAR IN THE EAST 1941-1943" covers the Italian war effort in Ukraine and Russia. General Messe led the Italian Expeditionary Corps in Russia, during 1941-1942. The Italians fought quite well under Messe, and his successor, General Gariboldi (commander of Italian 8th Army). Many units were proficient, elite formations, such as the Blackshirts, the cavalry regiments, the Alpine divisions, and the semi-motorized infantry. The Italians also sent a flotilla of mini-submarines and motor torpedo boats that operated effectively in the Black Sea.
My father (class 1920) was a partisan commander in northern Italy from September 1943 till the April 1945. They fought with bravery the nazi fascist forces in a very bloody civil war. Unlike Germany, in Italy many soldiers were against Mussolini and his desire for conquest
Italy's small arms were pretty good and competitive with most of its WW2 opponents (Except the US), however it's biggest let down and most important small arm was its LMG the Breda Model 30.
the music 🥲👹👹
Dio porco how this is a honest look ?
Italians had built good fighter planes and battleships. Effective military machines.
Culture. Dramatic cultural differences are the bedrock reason behind all the differences between the Germans and Italians as fighters.
Doctrines also screwed over France in the First World War. They were caught up with taking more land, as they had done in the Napoleon War. A country not modernizing is a country that is dooming itself. Weapon wise or mindset wise.
Why have you only made one video?
This is an engaging, if succinct, look at Fascist Italy in WWII. Mussolini was an extremely effective politician and writer; we must remember that Hitler emulated him in nearly every aspect. However, he wasn't the most efficacious general. His personal credo of, "Mussolini is never wrong," says it all. General Armellini was accurate; Mussolini had little idea of the adversities or logistics of military campaigns. You stated, "The combined arms doctrine used to such devastating effect by the Germans could not have been pulled off by (the Italians.)" Italian military doctrine, developed without German intervention, was almost identical to that of Nazi Germany. My grandfather was an early member of the Italian Blackshirts; MVSN, (Camicie Nere, CCNN). Among others, he fought in the Ethiopian and Greek campaigns, was wounded, and won several decorations some awarded by Mussolini himself. Until his death, he was a genuine and passionate Fascist; many an evening was spent listening to his memories of the war and how Italy could have won.
The Italians were not eager to fight for Mussolini much less die for him. As soon as the casualties mounted they would retreat or surrender. And who could blame them. Hitler's cause was not their cause.
I love, that you actually used ww2 italian music in the video
Greece and Metàxas were Italy's allies ffsakes, and Mussolini still attacked them - got his teeth bashed in and - WORST THING OF ALL - it meant the Germans had to postpone "Barbarossa" by at least a couple of months to secure the Balkans, which infuriated Hitler so much he went speechless for a couple of days. That was possibly the most important strategic blunder of the War by the Axis powers. Had they started "Barbarossa" in May, they quite probably wold have taken both Moscow and st. Petersburg.
Bro your content is good but the music is so annoying, I am Italian and hearing two languages I can fully understand at once makes it so hard to follow, besides you shouldn't be playing fascist songs PS: I'm sorry I can't genuinely watch it even if I try, the music is an earrape.
This country is the weakest modern army have ever known. I don’t think they ever won war since the Roman days.😂
I just watched the scarlet and the black in 1943 Rome. Highly recommend
an honest assessment of Italy's forces can be had from books by Brian K. Sullivan, Ian Walker and Walter Zapotoczny
wow this vid sucked
A very informative and exceptional book relating to Italian wars between 1935-1943 is: “Regio Esercito: The Italian Royal Army in Mussolini’s Wars 1935-1943” by Patrick Cloutier.
Without America ww2 is in the hand of German
When a country Lost more than 300.000 thousand men fighting along the Germans, and saying that was a minor role is a huge lack of respect for those hundreds of thousand of men who fought and died only for the Vanity of a Delusional Man like Mussolini. As a matter of fact the German Army without the huge Italian Sacrifice at Stalingrad would probably had surrender much earlier. In Africa the Italians were more a waste of space than a proper fighting force capable of helping the Germans the way Rommel so much needed. But overall the Historians are wrong by constantly Undermine the Role of the Italians in WW2. They fought bravely with what they had,wich was few and very bad equipment,but nevertheless without them Army Group South from 1941/1943 most likely wouldn't have been so Successfull, specialy on the first stages of Operation Blau,and by holding for so long at Stalingrad. The same can be said abaut the Romanian Army,who sacrifice an Entire Army also in Stalingrad. The ammount of casualties suffered by the Italians and Romanians on the Eastern Front were Appalling.
The Italian navy didn't do that badly and held their own against the British.
The biggest mistake, militarily speaking, committed by Italy post-WW1, was not restructuring the leadership with WW1 veterans. This is part of why Germany was so effective I think, many of their best generals and really the foundation of the whole Nazi movement was the veterans of WW1 who had learned to adapt in the trenches.
Italy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
uk and france=🤡
Unfortunately this video was disapointing and the interpretations on wwii events remain as lame as always, and as biased as always, with weak social economic development of the study
Did the Italian soldiers have courage? Yes! For one thing, Rommel's Africa Corps could not have survived without them. For Reference: Research the Italian Folgore Division in the Africa Corps. Also two books: "Few Returned, Twenty-Eight Days on the Russian Front, Winter 1942-1943," by Eugenio Corti and "Last Soldiers of the King, Wartime Italy 1943," also by Eugenio Corti. After you read his books, you will never think of the Italians as cowards again.
The Germans sacrificed the Italians to cover their retreat So many Italian soldiers surrender Because they had no transport or equipment
Interesting, but this video doesn't recognise one fundamental aspect, which all Italians even today recognise and which is reflected in Italian politics today. The conflict which lead to WW2 for Italy was a civil war right from the Fascist takeover in the 1920's. A majority of Italians didn't want to fight for Mussolini. When there was an alternative motive to fight (espirit de corps with Messe in Tunisia, the Alpini of the AMIR in Russia and (against the Germans) the Acqui Division in Cefalonia), they were willing to fight against terrible odds. This is lost in the British/US idea of WW2 as 'the good war' but (unfortunately) this civil strife has not ended even today
The principal problem we weren't ready ,and we did the same 2 campaigns in Etiopia and Spain ,so when we started WW 2 we had less resources .Another problem we didn't have radar in the Royal Navy and bad coordination with the Regia Aeronautica
The Italians sucked. They had no business being in that war. Mussolini was a moron. He should have pulled a Franco and stayed out of it.
America 🤡 got their behind handed to them in Vietnam 😂
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@@TheLoyalOfficer America 🤡 got their behind handed to them in Vietnam 😂
@@NoName-hg6cc You need to check your meds, or take them... This vid is about Italy, not Vietnam.
@@TheLoyalOfficer And? America did the same in Vietnam but worse, having materials superiority. You should accept it
The main mistake was pursuing the quantitative superiority when the Country didn't have the resources to do so. I believe that a relatively small but properly trained and equipped army, with a clear strategy could, with the support of the other armed force take control of the Mediterranean theater. Unfortunately the people who was supposed to prepare such a strategy were Badoglio and Cavagnari who, beside having others priorities, didn't possess the necessary skill to do so.
My God. Almost literally everything you said is wrong. From the major info like the dates of the wars to the minor stuff like the goddamn number of bullets in the carcano. I can't make a comment long enough to correct all your garbage video. After 4 minutes it just began painful to watch.
Italian culture:"Hey Joe, you wanna meet my sister?''
Italy had culture when your ancestors were still on trees 😂
Three comments: the Mannlicher-Carcano 1891 holds six instead five rounds and the map of Italy in the beginning of the video doesn't include the Istrian peninsula. The latter became part of Italy after World War I and they lost it again after World War II. Thirdly, the main reason why Mussolini came to power in 1922 because of "Bienno Rosso" (Two Red Years) between 1919 and 1920. A series of social and political unrest in the aftermath of World War I. Italy's ruling classes became afraid of a socialist takeover and used the fascists to counter the thread. The movie Novecento (1976) gives a inside - although it is fiction - how the rural society of Nothern Italy functioned between 1900 and 1945. A large part of the movie pays attention to the fascists. Besides that: great content and thanks very much! Poor Italian men who were draft into the army. An army led by incompent men and a chronically lack of basic materials and supplies.
Carcanos hold 6 rounds not 5
Hell of a look at Italy's situation; would love to see more from you!
Well done- Great video editing on this underrated topic .
You need to upload more vids like this
Nice video!!
Rommel once said "the German stormtroopers shocked the world, the Italian soldier shocked the stormtroopers"
È una stronzata...mai detto!