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Yacht Orla
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Orla our Lafitte 44 Sailing Yacht, has been our home for 8 years.
We now have a wee house in the North West of Scotland and Orla is out of the water for some long over due maintenance to her teak decks.
Since buying Orla we have tried to do all the work that's involved in keeping a boat like this in tip top condition ourselves, which means asking other owners for advice, searching the internet for tips and tricks and how others have done some of the tasks.
There is a huge amount of information out there on everything to do with boats you could imagine, some brilliant and some not so brilliant.
So these videos I post are for others to find and hopefully help in some small way with a project they are trying to do on there own boat.
We now have a wee house in the North West of Scotland and Orla is out of the water for some long over due maintenance to her teak decks.
Since buying Orla we have tried to do all the work that's involved in keeping a boat like this in tip top condition ourselves, which means asking other owners for advice, searching the internet for tips and tricks and how others have done some of the tasks.
There is a huge amount of information out there on everything to do with boats you could imagine, some brilliant and some not so brilliant.
So these videos I post are for others to find and hopefully help in some small way with a project they are trying to do on there own boat.
Orla, Lafitte 44 For Sale.
Its been a very difficult decision, but we have decided to put Orla our Lafitte 44 up for sale.
All the info you would need can be found in the following link:-
www.michaelschmidt.co.uk/msp-boat/boat-list/Lafitte_44_orla
Or drop me a comment or email and i'll try my best to answer.
All the info you would need can be found in the following link:-
www.michaelschmidt.co.uk/msp-boat/boat-list/Lafitte_44_orla
Or drop me a comment or email and i'll try my best to answer.
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Orla Teak Deak Renovation pt 5
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Removing the old caulking & re-routing the grooves
Orla Teak Deck Renovation pt 3
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For Warrens eyes only :) Ignore the cheese biscut carry on, thats just me having a little dig at my buddy :) How to cut new teak plugs & how not to
Orla Teak Deck Renovation pt 2
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Part 2 in the renovation of Orla's deck. The deck has been fully sanded now and all the exposed screws need to be removed and the holes re-drilled.
Orla Teak Deck Renovation pt 1
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The teak decks on Orla are now 32 years old and long over due for some TLC. First job was to remove all the interior head lining and then all through deck fittings, everything that was possible to remove was. This video shows the initial sanding, more to follow....
HI thanks for the video What thickness of paper do you use?
Why?
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Love your video 😁
Hello, what gradation of abrasives you use? Best regards from Poland.
Hiya , would you be interested in taking a Hustler 35 as a part exchange ?
Hi Jamie, thanks very much for the interest, I have a potential deal going through at the moment, and I'm not really in a position to be taking an other boat on for a while.. All the best Dougie
She looks tight! What kind of hull insulation did you use? Thanks
I used a high density foam about 10/15mm I think, (camping mat kind of stuff)
She looks a beautiful yacht, unfortunately we're about 5 years away on the master plan of making the jump. ...but what's the artist/title of the soundtrack?
Lazy boy blues. Unicorn heads
Hi Andy, I have to thank Dave Holland for the info, Its part of the video editing software options, I wasn't sure of the artist. I really like the mellow blues sound...
Hi there, first, you have a beautiful boat. The Perry designed Lafitte's are really cool boats and the deck is central to the design. Bravo on refurbishing it to like new condition. My question is, what did you screw your wooden guide to? I love that idea but curious as to how to you fasted it. I assume the remaining teak in the old grooves?
Also, thumbs up for wildwood flower on the banjo 👍👍
Jolly good fun
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I like the way you remove the screw cap.,
Hi i Wonder IF you put The screw back in? OR do you just seal it? IF you put The screw back in how do you seal The screw? /charlie
hi my friend, whats you think of buy teak timber from Brasil?
Yes, please list the tools or the link to the tools video. Not all multi-tools and attachments are created equal.
That's really nice using the softwood batten like that . Did you screw in to the teak groove? What was it you screwed into there? I guess you'd have a few mm left to screw into beyond the groove in the teak. Also is you boat inside or outside with the plastic cover on. Thanks ....great work....
hi, i have heard that sikaflex isnt the best anymore, the quality has changed.. it leaves you with black colour on the skin 1 month after putting it on.. can you tell about your experiences..? thanks -- stefan
Did you ever get a chance to list the tools used? What grit sandpaper and such forth for the renovation of teak.
i get a few fender washers with the same size hole and have someone go ahead of me dropping them over the plug while i knock them down with a grinder as fast as he can drop them the washer keeps me from leaving any smiles or nicks when i get bored after a few thousand and just wanna get the dammed thing done works great for shallow plugs you knock out with a chisle too
I've watched your whole series on your deck refurbishment now and thank you so much for posting. I have a question about the deck screws. Did you ever replace the screws with shorter ones after cleaning and deepening the screw holes or did you simply rely on the adhesive under the decks to keep them in place? If so, are you concerned they will de-laminate in the future? Thanks.
Hi Michael, thanks for your comments. I did replace all the deck screws I removed, more for peace of mind than anything else, the teak deck is so well secured with the adhesive I don't think it will ever de-laminate. I did remove all the decking round my gas lockers at the aft end, I was installing larger gas lockers so it all had to be cut away and it was very difficult to lift and remove, so I guess that gave me confidence in the adhesive on the rest of the deck. I don't know what adhesive was used 35 years ago but it still has a good hold :) Cheers Dougie
Thank you for the reply. How much did you deepen the screw holes? Did you use shorter screws when you re-installed them? Did you bed the screws in anything to aid in waterproofing? Thanks!
@@flippercarson this 😀 you skipped the whole hole bit. What did you use to rebed the screws
Wow... astonishing what just sanding can do , its a shame we didnt get to see the whole boat before you started
Cheese rocks
Do you have anything on changing the cockpit fiberglass structure? Done by yourself or another source.
Hi, Sorry no, its not something I've needed to do, try this guy at "boatworks today" he's doing a lot of fibre glass work at the moment and his videos are very good.
Amazing videos- if you are interested I would love to get them posted on my website Boat-Renovation.com, let me know! Keep up the good work.- Louis
Hi Louis, yeah no problem, I have a few more to add to when I get back to Orla.. Thanks Dougie
Hey Dougie- the site is www.boat-renovation.com If you wanted I could post all 7 of the videos. Would you be up for writing a bit about the project? hints and tips etc. Would be great!
Dougie, it is an absolute pleasure to watch you work old friend! I am quite sure that by using the end of the drill bit to achieve the desired radius in the caulking, you are also assuring better adherence to the surface to which you're applying. My best to you and Auntie Trish! Cheers Sam
Great to hear from you Sam, hope your keeping well & busy. Orla's all done now and out of the shed, just got to step the mast and launch which was supposed to be this month, but as usual work got in the way :) I enjoyed doing all the work myself, huge amount of time involved but saved a fortune. Just cant wait to get away on her again... I have a few more videos to post on the works, then I hope to start post some of our travelling in the future. Keep in touch buddy & love to the family
Aaaahh... Finally found someone as crazy as I am about Teak and quality work... Thank you... I am not alone. I also used and following the same regiment as you -- only, I found the Reefing hook and sanding block from TDS much faster than using the the Fein tool. It's all personal preference in the end--- I am very much under time constraint to weekends and distance. Otherwise-- I envy the time and care you are putty into your girl!! 😎
Hi Thomas, I thought I was mad for undertaking this work for a while, but now its complete I'm delighted. I ended up not using the Fein tool for cleaning the grooves, made myself a similar sanding block, never tried the reefing hook, didn't know it existed until I was almost done :) I was the same as yourself with Orla being 250 miles from home, but the staff at the yard allowed me to stay on the boat which meant I could spend a few weeks at a time on her between trying to earn a living :)
Great and simple vids Dougie! The only difference was that I blew in thick beads and made sure they touched every single side and did it slow with a helper going behind me for quality control. My boat is in the water at the moment -- so I do not have the luxury of the indoor area. I do have the decks tarped to ensure moisture levels stay below 8%... I am noticing the recessed caulking when you flatten the caulking-- it "appears" lower than the surface of the wood. Is this an optical illusion-- or is the caulking actually lower than the grain of the battens? Cheers, Thomas S/Y EXPLORAR CONMIGO
Thanks for the Comments Thomas. The indoor option was a must for me, I had many other jobs to get done also, don't think I would have managed it outdoors with the drop in temperature and wet winters we get.. I had a couple of small areas where the caulking was recessed, couldn't really figure out why it was happening, maybe the angle I held the plastic scraper I used for pressing it in, not sure. By the time I did the final sand it was fine, it looks worse in the video. On a couple of runs I put another bead on top once the first had cured, sanded it off and perfect :) Cheers Doug
Great vid-- in processes of recaulking seams on my entire boat.. 85% Teak Deck on a 44' German Frers Ketch...
Thanks again Thomas.. sounds like you have a similar amount of teak as me. good luck with all your work, you'll be chuffed to bits when your sitting in the cockpit with full sails up admiring your work. Enjoy Dougie
Yacht Orla -- I sure hope so... did you or are you sealing the decks? Or leaving them natural?
Hi Thomas, no I don't believe in sealing the teak, happy to leave it natural, she's been that way for 33 years. I also think that's one of the reasons the deck is still going strong. I've never seen a deck sealed that looks good to me, if neglected it starts to look really bad. Oh natural for me buddy...
I think what Warren means , Turn the plug grain across the planking , when oiled it will look much better
Hi Lew, not sure if that's what he meant or not, I've never seen a teak deck with the plug grain 90degs to the plank grain, but you never know. I'm not keen on oil, its never been used on Orla in the past, quite happy to let it silver up and spray it with Boracol once a year to keep the green off... Cheers Dougie
@@yachtorla7691 hi. Could you please tell me how much is the price on the whole restauration. Like that?
Absolutely superb series of video tutorials. I have a complete deck to renovate on my 36foot motor cruiser with pretty much all of the issues you have covered, including many wafer thin or missing screw plugs. You have inspired and informed me to go for it rather than rip it all off and replace with plastic faux teak decking (which was my original plan). Thank-you for taking the time and detail to share your experience and skill. One question: Did you use epoxy or polyester resin to bed your screw plugs? I have some West system 105/205, but am wondering if UV exposure would break this down and cause the bond to fail.
Thanks for you lovely comments Danny Boy (Irish Perhaps) :) I used epoxy West System on advice from a local boat builder and you tuber "Boatworks today" check out this video of his:- th-cam.com/video/3TOHwrkw4NQ/w-d-xo.html He is a professional and offers very good advice. Enjoy Dougie
Hi, let me ask you, do you plugs fit snug or do the epoxy fill the gap? Thanks in advance.
Hi Marcelo, sorry for the delay in getting back to you, been away working. I re-drilled all the holes in the deck that needed done and made my own plugs.. so all the plugs were a tight fit, had to be tapped in with a hammer, I used epoxy just to seal them.....
Nice work!!!
My friend, this is a frightening amount of work. I am going to sand down my decks and go for the Colean option. I am not that concerned as to how the decks look at the end as long as they stop leaking.
With respect to the amazing job done on Orla, I'm with you all the way and would be really interested to know what 'The Colean option is... Please enlighten me!
I watched all the videos until finally got to video 8, the opne I need to see, and you do not give an explanation of what you doing... think of the people of never have done this and have no clue where to start... please describe what you do
Thank you so much for the video s. I m starting renovation of a teak deck om my Vindø 32 this fall, and your videos has helped me a lot in understanding what to do,and how to do it. You are a true craftsman and your yacht look amazing.
Thank you, this is the very reason I decided to make the video's, I was where you are now and really struggled to find anything of much help, there was a few vids about but nothing that gave me confidence in being able to undertake the work myself. I have asked questions on forums and a couple of very helpful local boat builders were on hand to give advice when necessary. So I decided to make these video's in the hope others would benefit from my learnings. As far as craftsman is concerned :) I'm just a proud boat owner who likes to do all his own maintenance... Good luck with your project, investing in the right tools for the various jobs will make all the difference. Another very good site is "boatworks today" he really is a craftsman, and lots of good advice.
Hello Jon and Yacht Orla, I am about to start the restoration of Vindo 40 deck, I am about to take out old rusty screws and I am not sure if replace them by INOX with Sika for sealing and then bug over it with glue or just do not replace the screw and just the bug with sika, epoxy or other material... What do you recomend? I am having water inside from the deck and my plan is first the secrews and second replace Caulking, third sanding and fourth teak oil.
Germán Ramajo Aráez Hello German. I followed Yacht Orla s video, and took out the screws and cleaned out the plug holes of old glue. I could re-use most of my screws. I put the screws in again, one tiny drop epoxy, dipped the plug in epoxy, and did just like in the video. your plan with screws, caulking and sanding, was just like the order I did it in. Hope I was helpfull, and good luck on your restoration. For the caulking I used Sikaflex7, and for the holes and plugs I used a 2 component clear epoxy from west system. Best wishes. jon
@@jonsundnes9005 Great, Thank you Jon.
Great to see you back here so soon as, I might add, you promised ;-) So you didn't fancy taping off the whole deck and not sanding more.?!? Your reasons sir:? Time vs thickness of teak me thinks... Love watching this.. But once you've done this video I think you should do a follow up on another boat... Hmmmmm let me see, I can think of one and I know he won't charge you for making another video ;-)))))) Warren s/y Legend
Hi Warren, I looked into taping the seams prior to caulking, but it would be a huge amount of work and a lot of detail to mask round, also incredibly messy when removing the tape. The very first sanding i did when when she came in the shed was just a lightish sand to give me a workable surface for changing plugs and re-cutting the seams, I always new I would have to do another sanding nearer the end of the project, and to be honest a lot of the sanding you see is just removing the excess caulk, for sure more teak was sanded off but that was always going to be the case. Also most of the excess caulk was removed with the Multimaster blade, so sanding was just a minimum. If I had taped it I think I would still of had to sand. If I was doing it again I would do it the same way :) You will see in the next video that I used tape for the seams round the coach roof which was a must. I am planning to do more videos on Orla's maintenance, I have new perspex to install in the coachroof and all the deck fittings to re-bed, so a few more to come yet. Thanks Dougie
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So you like doing teak...I have a job for you 😏
Hi Dougie, We are currently n Denia, Spain, and plan to take Somoya out of the water in September, when we get to Villa Real San Antoni, / Ayamonte. I liked your tip about using the multi tool to deepen the grooves instead of routing. Are you planning on putting bond breaker tape in the grooves before caulking? Keep up the great work, and thanks for taking the time to post your videos! Cheers, Chris
Damn it sir, I've waited 6 months for this video, I hope I (or we) don't have to wait so long for the next episode. Your deck looks fantastic even at this stage. Thank you for posting this, you are a tradesman, so methodical it's a pleasure to see... I can't remember if I've told you that my boat (Najad 343) is from 1981 so this that you're doing will be on my engender very soon... Thanks again.. Warren (not the one mentioned in your vid)
+legend343 LOL thank you very, sorry for the delay work got in the way but I'm back on her now try to get her finished so I can get her out the shed. Will be posting an other video in the next couple of days about caulking. Don't know about the tradesman bit though I'm learning as I go :) Thanks Dougie
NIce job and looking really good! I am about to start recaulking the deck on Somoya, our trusty Westerly Oceanlord (which spent two winters in the shed at Fairlie a few years ago). Quick question for you.......will you be masking the deck before caulking...I can't wait to find out! Say hi to Niall Faulkener if you see him! Cheers, Chris
+Chris Chapman Thanks Chris, yeah almost done now, another couple of weeks and I'll be able to get her out the shed and re step the mast, cant wait to get sailing again.... I didn't mask the deck, you'll see in the next video how I've done it, came up really well..... Where about's are you doing your deck? Cheers Dougie
Hi Orla, I can't Seem to find the video where you are telling about the tools and equipment used for all videos it is really great videos - br Lasse
+Lasse Laursen Hi Lasse Sorry for taking so long in getting back to you. I haven't done a video about the tool I've used but I will be doing one soon, almost finished the decks so a good close out video would be to discuss what tools and materials I've used, hopefully get it done this week. Thanks for your comment. Dougie
What the heck? Who hacked into my email, I never did this!!!!
+Cresdragon Sorry Cresdragon, I don't understand what you mean. did you not post the question that I answered?
Hmmm. it seems questionable whether the bungs were in a state even close to requiring replacement. Was this simply precautionary work?
+Cresdragon Hi Cresdragon, if you look at Orla teak deck renovation pt 2 you'll see why it had to be done. The only bungs that were replaced were the ones where the teak was gone completely, only the resin above the screw being visible, I reckon I've replaced about 40%. The initial sanding of the decks exposed the bungs that were starting to thin out. Like you said most of the bungs have still plenty left.
Good video clip... How old are the decks.? How thick do think the decks are Dow.?What grit sandpaper did you use.? I need to do the same with our deck. It's from 1981 and started off at 12mm. I thinking of the bungs/screws that I remove I'll put epoxy and plug in and not replace the screw. Warren (yes another one......) s/y Legend
+legend343 Hi Warren, thanks for the comments. Orla's decks are 33 y/o but they must have been pretty thick when first fitted maybe around 15mm, now thet are around 8mm/10mm thick. The 1st sanding was 80grit, the decks were really bad. Regards the bungs & screws, in hindsight I would probably not use srews again unless I seen signs of lifting, Orla's decks are so secure I don't think the screws would do any good now.. By far the best thing I did having never done anything like this before, was get the right tools, can't stress it strongly enough. Really good quality Random Orbital Sander. Fein Multimaster with all the right attachments, good battery drill, a palm router with plunger and lastly a good hoover that will plug into your sander. At a guess I spent around £700 on tools, bargain. I was getting quotes off £40'000 to do what I'm doing myself, Its a lot of work, but I have learnt new skills and got a huge amount of satisfaction out of it. Good luck with your project, I'm still doing mine, should be ready to start caulking soon :) Dougie
+Yacht Orla... Yes the Fein, I bought one too when I re caulked the coach roof, expensive but what a bargain for time and effort.... I watched the last of your clips with the router, now that looks like a pain in the A, possibly the worse job and time consuming of it all.??? Is there no other way to deepen the tracks where the caulk goes.? Great series, hope to see more.. Warren
+legend343 Re-routing the grooves so they are all the same depth and width was the one job I was dreading, I spent a lot of time looking into other tools and asking the pro's and it basically came down to what I'm doing. It is quite daunting at first, but you soon get into a system that works. The big areas are not to bad its the areas round hatches and deck fitting which slow the whole thing down. Its still very easy to make a mistake with the router as I have found :( but all fixable) takes a surprising amount of concentration. Hoping to get back to Orla in the next few weeks when I hope to finish the routing and start cleaning the grooves ready for caulking......
Thanks, for shearing your experience. Very helpful since I'll be starting the teak revitalization next month on my newly bought Trintella IV. I have a question about the mounting screws - did you put new ones after cleaning the holes or did you just put the plugs without the screws?
+Maciej Mikulski Hello, nice strong boat the Trintella, make a good liveaboard, always liked them... I debated about replacing the screws because the deck is so well attached, but for all the cost involved I decided to replace them with SS pan heads. At least I know they are there :) When I started the work on my deck, the best thing I did was get the right tools, made a huge differance. No regrets spending the money on a good orbital sander and the Fein Multimaster. Good luck with your decks. Dougie
+Yacht Orla Thanks for the answer and yeah I agree on the tools - this is the basis. Have you also replaced the caulk sealing between the planks, or have you just "shaved" the caulk that was standing above the planks?
+Maciej Mikulski Hello again, I shaved the exess caulking prior to the first sanding, it made sanding much easier. I then removed all the exposed screws and re-drilled, re-screwed & re-plugged. The job I'm doing now is removing all the old caulking ( just posted video pt 5 about this) and routing out the grooves again. After that I will caulk the whole deck and then a final sanding, cant wait, almost there :) Cheers Dougie
I did so enjoy the vid. I have to say the epoxy is a bad idea, fills the screw philips head, a real bitch to get out. The music, just fantastic. great job folks, thanks
Oh man, I just figured out "cut towards the cheese" is implying to cut towards the fat end of your wedge of "cheese". With cheese being the dowel.
+Benjamin Hampton Hi Benjamin, LOL, thats not what I had in mind when I made the video, but I guess its an explanation :) Its really me having a go at my friend Warrren's cheese issues (private joke). Thanks for making me laugh.
Hello again. Thanks a lot for the information. Now we can find it on the net.
Hi there. I'm interested to know what type the machine, you are using to remove the rubber with, is. What is it called and what is the product name? Karen, Denmark
Karen Engmark Hi Keren, Its a FEIN MultiMaster with a 5mm cutting blade attachment, they are very good, I'll be posting a video soon showing the tool in use, had to go to work for a couple off months, but I'll be back to the project soon.