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White Rhino Overland Chef Build
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White Rhino Fabrication
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White Rhino Fabrication
601-407-6266
info@whiterhinofab.com
540 Commerce Ave. in Canton, MS
#fab #fabrication #customfab #haas #whiterhino #custom #customfabrication #welding #milling #tigwelding #migwelding #lathe #lazercutting #CADdesign #aerospace
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Today we are finally ready to talk about the things we like, really like, and only 1 small thing we don't like...YES the machine is that good. #HAAS #Milling #customfab Contact us today White Rhino Fabrication 601-407-6266 info@whiterhinofab.com 540 Commerce Ave. in Canton, MS #fab #fabrication #customfab #whiterhino #custom #customfabrication Industrial Fabrication: CAD design CNC laser cut an...
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Hi can I hire you to make me a set for the fj40
Do u sell them?
How much was the rigging cost you?
great video! very nice review. Also if you haven't solved the chip management issue I saw this solution today on another channel: th-cam.com/video/eZn_xoXf7m8/w-d-xo.html
We use the same work offsets on every program based off the vice it will run on. Take the time to standardize your programming with origin to wherever you want it on the vice in relation to vice. Layout every part the same. Save the headache of touching off every part and possible crashes. Implemented this method after using up all the work offsets on the machine for different production parts and not wanting to start probing every setup. Also handy when you have 7 machines being robot tended with the same vice and jaw setup for quickly moving jobs to different machines. Use G54 thru Gxx to store the master vice offsets then run all your parts on G154pxx that mirrors your master offsets just in case you need to make minor adjustments for op to op blends.
At the end of part 2 you mentioned the next video showing the fab-work on the floor pan. Than the assembly of the pan to the inner fender walls. Well I can’t find that video. Help
Wow, that's awesome. I enjoyed the content. I just got appointed to learn this machine for employer. I heard you say you learned a lot from TH-cam and the internet in general. It would be awesome if you could share or point me towards some content that helped you to set up your tooling. I am also going through the tutorials on Mastercam University
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Okuma baby.
Hi Chris. You may not be a great machinist yet but You are learning the trade every day. You look to me like You are really doing good. I believe you are being way to hard on yourself about all these things. I have been self employed since 1982 and man I still feel I am learning and still don’t have all the answers. Just try and keep things as simple as possible and keep working thru your jobs. I am just building my 3rd shop and probably my last but I still can’t think of everything. It just takes practice and a ton of dedication. I think You are doing awesome. Thanks for the video
Yaya! You made the shorts section CB 😂
We have a vf4 and vf4ss with 24" Z option. Z will change with temp. We write by hand, no posting from Cam. Fun and more fun. Dry run tools above Z zero to keep from crashing. Have you used a programmable part stop? Curious if that is still used.
Dont waste time with manual programing and dry runs. Buy base Fusion360 without machining extension. Make good library for each material and condition, make templates, standardise…. I program simple parts under 8 minutes which include 2 OPs (two side machining), program postprocesing, preparing picture for operator how is zero located and loading it to machine via LAN… no dry runs. I benchmark myself and change programming workflow to decrease programing time…
I got a VF5SS and the mist condenser, and found it to be straight TRASH. If you are doing anything light, it works ok. But if you are hogging material and the coolant atomizes and vaporizes due to a hot end mill, that smoke and mist will leak out the machine leading to very unhealthy air. I invested in a true mist collector with HEPA filtration. Your lungs will thank you.
What a shame we didn't get to see more. Looks like a serious 4WD 👌
Haas has never been good at chip management. I own a couple of machines starting year 2000 and newer, they actually got worse over time. Best thing I've ever done is mimic the large horizontal machining centers and add a second pump and spray bar to either side of the cabinet. It takes about 15 gpm per side and at least 4 nozzles on the vf3/4/5 cabinets and the chips will be continuously washed down to the auger. A standard shallow well pump works great and has good pressure. I modified my post processor and use an m code and machine output to turn on the pump relay whenever a program is running. The spray bar is high enough on the back wall that I can point a nozzle at each of the X axis way covers and prevent buildup there also. Best thing I've ever done to increase productivity in a haas.
You need to check your axis lubrication system before its too late. The purple grease used by hass gets clog inside the lines.
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I got a VF4 SS at my work a little over 1 1/2 years ago. Great machine. One thing that you should do, take the plunge and get a rotary 4th axis. I got the HRT-210SS. Once you figure out how to program a 4th axis you won't go back. It is awesome. The probing is a must to have. Honestly that should be standard on the machines now.
I remember wondering why they provided hundreds of work offset positions until dealing with a 4th axis tombstone for the first time It was not a fun experience to change out the parts but it ran for almost 2 weeks due to all the small details and just how many parts there were.
Those donuts and pvc spacers kinda suck, although they are very easy to make.
That is a fair statement. If I was running thousands of parts at a time, then it wouldn't be so bad. However, because I am a job shop, I can run anything from 1/4" to 10" multiple times a day and 15-20 minutes each time is painful.
@@wrfnation1541 I understand believe me I do. The question is, is it cheaper to machine donuts from UHMW, or is it more cost efficient to purchase purchase a liner. TBH I would purchase a liner, less things to keep up with. Man we are in a very competitive market. I wish you the best. Haas is a very good job shop machine. If you get I to 500 or more part runs I think Doosan sub spindle is the way to go. Don't get me wrong I love Haas controls, Doosan is well built, only downside is learning Fanuc control. I hope you make alot of $ in your endeavor. If you ever step up to a Doosan for productivity pm me. Brother I will be glad to help.
@@phillipwebb3309 those are all valid points. My main point was the cost of the “kit” that came with the donuts was more expensive than the kit for the long spindle liners. Both work I was just sharing my experience with it.
@@phillipwebb3309 we have a doosan lynx 2600sy coming in a couple weeks! Excited and nervous lol
Do you know what the Haas part number is for the spindle liner adapter you used is? I am interested in setting up a bar feeder on my st35y but have been told by Haas I cant do it...
I'm sorry, I'm just seeing this. The spindle liner kit was this. www.haascnc.com/haas-tooling/lathe_workholding/spindle_liners/08-0199.html and the adapter was this www.haascnc.com/haas-tooling/lathe_workholding/spindle_liners/05-0206.html Then I made an adapter to fit the adapter ha!
Saunders Machine works has a free file on their website for 3d printed brackets that prevent chips building up in the machine.
I wish you would let me give you some music ideas sir! 🤣
I used a 2015 VF-3SS for six years. It wasn't hard to hold a tenth in XY. Z would move a little with thermal expansion, +/- .0005" was about the best I could rely on in Z. Get the machine professionally laser calibrated, it goes a long way.
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Buy once cry once indeed, as our Uncle Bumblefvck likes to say.
Very cool. What steel grade, 1018?
Nice work my man.
I commend you for putting this content out there, I have been thinking about doing the same so people can make an informed buying decision. Any new machine will have some quirks but Haas has several and it's annoying because most of the problems are easy fixes, it boggles the mind. They musty be hiring engineering students right out of school, large brains but no sense.
Good points. I agree about the concrete, do your research and if you can pour a thick slab for it it would be worth the investment. The rigidity it provides will impact your machines capabilities. A lot of machine sellers won't bring this up because they want to make the sale. I have a love/hate relationship with Haas machines. I have been in the machine shop trade for over 20 years and worked with Haas quite a bit, along with several other brands, and if it were me, I'd buy a Doosan over a Haas any day. Price wise they aren't too far apart but a Doosan will run circles around a Haas. I'm all about made in USA but when it comes to CNC machines, the best ones (mostly) are made overseas. Also Haas engineering has really gone south, cost cutting with cheaper materials, locking out parameters so you have no choice but to use their c\service techs instead of fixing it yourself, and the lubrication systems they changed to are complete garbage.
Cool shop tour, we have similar machines in our shop, I felt right at home.
Sometimes I think I would have a lot more fun in a fabrication/ machine shop then in a normal production machine shop.
As a common shop, I would suggest you to get Haas shrink fit machine and holders, they are cheapest on the market with decent quality.
have you thought about an modular table on top of your vf4ss table? they very good to reduce setups
How much does it cost for this machine?
Go to the HAAS website and it will give you the cost of whatever machine you want to get. They have upfront pricing which is really nice, then when you pick a machine you want call the HFO in your area and they can help get you discounts etc.
Wish I could justify $7K/mth for machine payments. Some slow months that might be all we make. No products of our own only job shop of myself and my 71 year old father.
Love the idea of having a Tool Holder for Every Tool. Downside ?? Cost and, Where to put the Holders, LOL. I like the angled tray I guess you could call it under the Controller. Just a little concerned with Coolant wet hands, dripping all over everything that is sitting on this tray ?? Looking forward to your next video, in regards to how you make use of Lean Manufacturing in your shop. Work Smart, Not Hard.👍
Cool video! Music is questionable but cool video!
I laughed when you called a haas lathe a mill turn lol, not a fan of your haas machines but I'm jealous of the Amada's
Yeah I kind of thought that too, but he is a fab guy. Cnc lathe with Y-Axis and live tooling capability.
cool shop fellow job shop!
Thank You!
Always looking for that 1 video/channel, you can watch that makes you want to stay and watch More. Definitely got me Very Interested to see more of your channel. Subscribed of course. Looking forward to following along, and hopefully more videos in the future. Peter 👍
Definitely heading in the right direction if you can do Everything in 1 shop.
You can make a bushing rod for smaller material. Make the rods ID the size of the small stocks OD. With two big sections of the rod slightly smaller than your through bore with some o ring grooves in the two OD spots. Haas also sells these if you didn't wanna make them. They slide right in and right out and can be changed easily.
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The radius on the jaws are standard and yes are horrible for turning something under 5/8 dia. Get yourself a Royal QC collet system. Best thing I invested in for my ST20ssy. If not invest in some soft jaws and bore the smaller radius in them.
I’ve entertained the thought of a collet system but I was worried about how easy and fast we could change out as we are a job shop.
You mentioned that there is no way to run the parts on the VF4 that fast in that qtys in a cost effective method for the customer. I am not trying to be an ass but there is a way, Just trying to be helpful. You are only doing 1 side of a part at a time in a vise. Check into Pierson Workholding and look at their pallet systems. I will tell you right now that it will increase production because you are able to run multiple parts per tool change. Taking out multiple tool changes and rapids from cycle start to cycle start out of the run will decrease your time per part. Mock it up in the CAM system and see what the program estimates for time for each way of doing it. You have the table space to do it this way so might as well. Another machine to look into for production is Haas's DT/DM series. If you need help just let me know.
I am familiar with Pierson and have spoken to him directly about some work holding solutions. In the video, I meant to say compared to our manual machines. I'm still getting used to having a camera in my face and not rehearsing so I get a little tongue tied sometimes.
@@wrfnation1541 I'm about to start my own channel and I'm sure I'll be learning all about that as well. If you ever have any questions about machining feel free to reach out. It's pretty much all I've done in this life, other than that keep on keeping on!
@@tylergilbertson4086 tha is man, I’ll surely do that!
My machine was less accurate than a Chinese machine from brand new, would Last a few months then something else was wrong. Had to sell in the end as even HAAS wouldn’t buy it at used machine prices. That statement speaks for itself.
Not a great outcome for a New Machine purchase.
@@weldmachine Yes very disturbing and what’s worse the UK arm lied to US to make sure they won and I lost when it came to some financial help for the downtime and poor customer service. Buyer beware in the UK
@@homeworkshopengineering I thought you must have been in the US ? IF your a UK buyer you would have been better going for a Doosan. Which would be my choice IF I buy another CNC Lathe. The unfortunate thing about a HAAS machine is, they look Good sitting in the shop. I am sure you must have found that when you had the Lathe in your shop.
@@weldmachine Yes the machine looked lovely and the control is nice to use. To be honest any machine can have problems and that didn’t make my decision to move away from HAAS it was the poor way it was handled and being last in the queue. Waiting 5 weeks for a spindle is pretty bad in my opinion.
Nice, can we get the river at the back door sorted before the next new machine 🤣
haha I know right! I just moved into this building so when summer gets here we have a lot of work in the yard to handle.
Where did you go with this series? Are you retailing or manufacturing any panels for the 40? I NEED!
Man, thats some awesome conduit in the background.
Thanks, we spent a lot of time trying to make it look good.
Thanks for the info.