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The FBI standard includes layers of denim.

Need to set your gel blocks out farther and you will get more penetration

Underwood claims the 68 grain out performs their 90 grain. They both probably perform very nicely.

He does make a great point about the BB only getting 3inches and the fragments on this round. The fragments themselves. At the same time a BB is not exploding 3-4inches inside the target going all different directions.

CrItical Duty is designed for BARRIER PENETRATION (NOT ARMOR) and partial expansion, Critical Defense is designed for sub compact and compact pistols with a reliable expansion and to avoid over penetration. You can watch the video from Hornady talking about their design and ideal purpose.

Over penetration isnt a problem until yku have little ones in the house

19 and half inches is perfect for me 😅😅😅😅😅😅

Imagine shooting it out of pcc

Hopefully you're aware that those "cops" are also civians, unless they are MP's.

The 12-16" standard on Gel was set for pistol rounds. Still relatively applicable to shotgun shells, as theyre in the same velocity range (rifle rounds are a much different matter) but being short on penetration from a shotgun shell isn't a bad thing. It means every ounce of energy that shell puts into a target, stays in that target. While I prefer 00 Buck for a defensive situation, #4 buck shouldn't be counted out. It still dumps a ton of energy, has a slightly larger pattern than 00 buck, and generally won't penetrate external walls in a home.

This happened to me as well. Are there any other fixes to keep this from happening other than being super careful when putting the FCU back in the frame?

What's awesome with the underwood 90 grain +p it's going to be a lot lighter when your carrying instead of the 124. Something to think about. Great testing.

Would like to see a comparison test of Speer Gold Dot .38+P and Federal bonded .38+P hollow point bullets

Has anyone tested enough of these through suppressors for jacket separation?

I've always thought that a Ruger 10-22 or 22 Charger if you prefer "not a rifle"s would make an excellent home defense gun for people living in apartments when loaded with CCi Mini Mags or Velocitors. Federal Punch just makes me think that it would be ideal for anyone. It'll penetrate adequately with a clean shot to a baddie, especially out of a rifle, but that lightweight bullet wont go through your whole house and into the neighbor's house with enough energy to still be truly dangerous if you miss. Barrier Blind loads always kinda made me nervous which is why I never felt good using them for home defense. For carry where you may need to shoot sonething thats trying to run you over with their car or something, sure, carry barrier blind stuff, but for HD, I dont like them. Thats why I prefer to run number 4 buck through my shotgun that I keep for HD, but I wouldn't feel undergunned with a 10-22 with a 25 round mag full of Federal Punch at all.

I use the lehigh defense 300g controlled fract. with 33g of 4227 with very similar results so that being said i'd have zero hesitation using these for black bear or grizz within 50 yards

Man I totally agree!!! That 230 grain slug over a 3/4” is absolutely useless, especially if fired through a hard barrier. That would still be over 220 grains! Absolutely sucks for self defense, just terrible………would you send me the remaining eighteen cartridges? The thought of you suffering through using those is almost unbearable. I’m pretty sure that big ass slug causing a 11” x.85” hole would produce one hellava blood pressure drop.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Those are berry's hybrids bullet. You should use heavy clothing I don't trust any bullet untill it performs with heavy clothing. Coll vid I have those rounds

Why do you use already shot blocks? It ruins the video!

How about giving a measurement of the permanent wound cavity? That is one of the most important specifications!

22LR can sure poke holes in internal organs, nervous system, etc

I just ordered 68grain "platinum". They seemed pretty intersting. I always shoot a mag or two of "my good ammo" when I first buy a new product.

.22LR is all too often underestimated. at 0 - 21 feet 0-7 yards, the .22LR is Lethal more often than not with a hit or multiple hits to the Head, Neck, and Torso.

Outstanding Test one of the best tests I've seen good job. I would like to see a test done with a 20" to 24" barrel the length the cartridge was designed for.

I’m more interested in how it performs with small game! I have way better options for Self Defense!

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

I'd rather have OVER than UNDER. In any case.

Underwood themselves make this projectile, or at least designed it. Thats what they say on their website in the "questions" section.

It’s my experience that most rounds tend to overshoot their normal (calibrated organic gel) depths in clear synthetic gel. On average it comes out to about 1.5 inches with most JHPs and 2-4 inches with FMJs. I don’t know which would be more analogous(if either) to the weird “X” tip of the Lehigh bullet but I suspect that 19.5 inches is still acceptable, if either hollows or ball ammo are anything to go on. The synthetic stuff is less temperature sensitive but it seems to be more slippery or something.

You know you keep calling it a cheap Chinese product, yet you bash the shit out of it and it still works, and you continue to call it a cheap Chinese product, I think you’re being an ass, it’s a very reasonably priced red dot of pretty darn good quality I would say, there are a lot of higher priced ones out there that wouldn’t have held up to the abuse you put this one through, you keep whining about it and you kind of piss me off! I’m going to actually buy one of these because you proved to me it’s a pretty darn good red dot!, $89 through Amazon, I’m going to put it on my Tisas B9R double stack 1911, which I’m sure you would probably call a cheap Turkish product!😂

So u had it on the tx22 compact

It’s good test but making your decision on which one to buy based price is pretty easy for me considering gold dots are usually twice as expensive than federal Tactical.

People, he has his reasons. For some, 19.5 inches is excessive just on the notion that 18 is already at the extreme end. Could he easily use this ammo in a micro 9 and get favorable results? Sure he could, but it’s just as easy for him to use the 90 grain in his Glock 45 for equal results.

This guy really loves and depends on the fbi bilistics in all he's saying it performed well with slight over penetration that would barely wound anyone else. Compared to saving your life or someone else's looks like a win to me or something I'm willing to deal with personally. Watch your backdrop so you don't risk bruising anyone to save lives.

Kalkara, wouldn’t this mean that this particular round would be stellar in a micro 9 like a Shield Plus or 365? You did get your data from a 4in barrel after all.

I use .00 buck for my home defense!

Two years on - has this guy still got his left foot?

What do you think of these vs the AAC 77gr OTM's? They're both the same price. I'll be testing them sometime soon out of an 11.5 but mainly just groupings, nothing as high tech as your tests.

clear gel penetrates more because its synthetic

Test the 77gr OTM from AAC!!!

They get their jacket separation under control yet? Kinda sucks if you have a can. Just rolling the 🎲 🎲

You shouldn’t be mounting any optic on your hand guard anyway. Supposed to mount tot the furthest point of your upper receiver

Fbi uses denim

Underwood this is amazing performance, this guy obviously doesn't know what he is talking about

Unfortunate 🤨 thats amazing 👌

Your tests are a good approximation of the FBI tests. Good job!

So my question has always been unless your shooting through someone at the side you don't need 14+ in penetration u need about 3 so why is it the standard considering most period get shot point blank. Genuinely interested in knowing why

I feel like it didn't fail. It took a lot of shit before you dropped it head first directly on the concrete. Seems like it would be just fine on a nightstand.

Heres the thing dude that doesnt know shit at ballistics. Would YOU want to get shot with that??....

There needs to be more publicized tests on flesh instead of gel for the lehigh bullets. Until then, the underwood ammo lehigh load main perk is energy, penetration, and barrier blindness. Actual wound cavity in flesh is questionable, but that was always something that wasnt much of a priorty to me in handgun calibers as it only matters several seconds/minutes after i want to hit the offenders off button the moment the trigger is pulled. You either hit something important enough to stop the fight, or you dont.