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Great content as always, thanks Guys 👍

Christ man, either go get a drink of water or do a cough. Don't clear your throat every ten seconds. It makes it so hard to enjoy the video. Other than that, great content, guys. Keep it up!

I'm looking quite a lot at regiments of renown, I think there are some good options to fill the gaps

I dont play K.O. But it looks like you’re taking the endrinmaster to help the ironclad. Isnt he a separate infantry unit and you could not move him with your 3 units of thunderers?

That first list is like going all in on black every game. “I table you or you table me whats it gonna be”

On the Thunder Clad list are you only transporting 2 units of thunderers and the two heroes? Each hero takes a full unit slot. I'm new to KO and trying to figure out how to play this faction on the board.

Mac, who guested here a while back has had pretty good showings with his list over on the tts tournament scene. Worth looking into.

Greetings all! I will try to Thunder Clad list (awesome name). Can a transported unit still shoot after the boat makes a run move? Or does the endrinmaster have to roll his run and shoot to allow the transported units to still shoot after boat runs?

Also I agree the points are to much. Honestly look what other armies get for 500 points compared to an ironclad.

I've started collecting KO in 4th and I have a question. What is the minimum 2D6 roll I need to roll to get into combat jumping out of a deep struck frigate? Do I need the full 9 or is it 3? Thanks

Thanks guys this was really a lot more positive than I'd expected. Really inspiring.

I like the commentary. I am trying a mixed arms ironclad and frigate list. Trying to perfect the movement and targeting in hopes of a points drop.

Kharadron Overlords Endrineers Guild Expeditionary Force Endrinmaster with Endrinharness (130) [General] [Celestium Burst-Grenade] [Cunning Fleetmaster] - 1 x Arkanaut Ironclad (500) [Great Skyhook] - 10 x Grundstok Thunderers (280) - 20 x Arkanaut Company (220) Brokk Grungsson, Lord-Magnate of Barak-Nar (290) - 1 x Arkanaut Frigate (320) [Heavy Skyhook] - 6 x Endrinriggers (260) 2000/2000pts 2 drops Generated by Listbot 4.0 Can that one be an example of ironclad+frigate list? Thx for the show!😀

Thanks for the review! So based on your feedback, what would you think about this list? Navigator, 20 arkanauts, 10 thunderers, ironclad, frigate, 2x6 endrinriggers? With +2move on skyvessels, voidstorm orb, fleetmaster and the ironclad can transport 32.

A bit to throw in drekkis favour is that you can only fet a reroll charge command once per phase. So if your running a twin frigate build, drekki lets you get to reroll with both frigates. Throw in that you could have drekki being carried with the balloons next to his frigate, then throw the frigate in with the balloons leaving behind drekki and say 10 arko or thunderer which you wouldn't want to charge with but get within charge range for their shooting. There's nothing saying you can't transport a unit in movement, then use assault boat with a different unit.

Nice Overview.....it would be nice to see some ideas for Lists.

The deployment phase is so weird that you can't use abilities before hand. I quite like the admiral+ironclad combo. But if I stick the admiral and ironclad into sky high am i right in saying i lose his ability "the admiral flagship"? For many reasons 1. Boat is in the sky beforehand? 2. He is in the sky with the boat? 3. Can he choose another boat if he is in the sky and "not on the board? 4. Does that mean the ironclad can't really choose the "extra transport capacity" because it will be in the sky before I can add a unit to join them?

The whole faction is super hard to build a cohesive list for. It really feels like the lists I want to make end up around 1920 or 1950 points, without the ability to add anything else. If 3-5 things came down by 10 or 20 points, I think KO would be in a really great place, but as is, the points chunks are just SOOOOO awkward to try and make 2k lists within the regiments you really want to be bringing.

Hi! Please, could you update discord's link? Is expired. Thanks!

Just figured something out - our fly high ability happens DURING the movement phase and is not a core ability. We can drop out of the sky and then MOVE the entire regiment that came out of the sky. This is insane - it is our old zilfin hero phase move + teleport all over again. We can drop out 9 inches away, move up to 20-23 inches with the boat and transport all the regiment within 6. OR we can fly high our frigate, move 14 inches and then charge with 2 units of balloons. This is un-paralleled mobility.

At the moment, KO (and skaven warp lightning cannons) are the only decently effective shooting in the game. The rest of shooting is relegated to sniping heroes or killing screens. Our shooting got hit a little bit, all other shooting got hammered into the ground. Points costs are definitely off, gunhauler needs to come down and all heroes need to come down. I think KO will be even more annoying to play against then last edition - which is not good. Being able to re-deploy or retreat an entire army like 20 inches out of combat, with no way to counter is going to drive players insane. On the flip side, this army is even more unforgiving. The only real source of damage is our balloons, which are made of paper and can get almost no protection except distance - thankfully shooting ranges have been reduced but there are still plenty of 27 inch threat range shooting that will shred them so I suspect that will be rough (warp lightning cannons are insane). Fly high can protect a unit for one turn but it sucks with balloons as you cannot reliably charge at all when you come down, not even synergy with code wright as his ability works in hero phase. Overall I was hoping for this army to be less annoying for my enemies to play against and that didn't happen :(. I was hoping KO could fight a bit more heads up, but that is way worse now then ever, especially with no ally options to hold ground.

I love this great overview well done fellas! Couple points to make: 1. The difficulty creating lists is like the logistics of finding an expedition (difficult and full of compromises so lore accurate) 2. Y’all argue about the true way to craft your forces like a bunch of grey bearded duardin…so also thematic. Thanks for doing what yall do!

The faction is just overcosted and thats the reality of it. We would worry about damage output less if we had an extra board piece or two in our lists. Especially since we lack magic and manifestations in an edition that basically GIVES those away.

The sad thing is that everyone knows when they read the stats from tournaments and see half our warscrolls aren't being played, their solution will be to nerf the warscrolls that are being used...

Just to clarify, Transport Skyfarers ability says a 'reaction when you declare a non-charge movement ability.' So this wouldn't work with Counter-charge?

On the Drekki rerolling counter charge there's no point assault boat is only in our charge phase I believe. We really are paying a premium for the redeploy shenanigans.

1:27:44 "The damage needs to come from somewhere." Most adequate line after reading the KO index. Still trying to figure how to deal sufficient damages with what GW gave us. Thanks for the review guys !

I don’t know if it was mentioned (I don’t recall hearing it discussed) but watch out that you don’t use the transport troops ability more than once a turn per skyfarer unit because you can’t according to the ability. Particularly for power through

❤ thx for the insights. Was waiting for your thoughts since rules drop

Great episode as usual gents. thanks for sharing interesting insights.

I'm all for the ship movement but the troops are way to up in the air for me.

I’ve seen a fair bit of conflicting info on what warmaster is going to do. I’ve been trying to keep up with the official articles and leaks but I may have missed where these are coming from🫤

Love the channel fellas. Can someone explain the keyword bingo that would let Brokk’s ability enable a frigate to be able to use its ability, when the frigates ability says it cannot be used if it has used run?

THESE ARE THE INDEX RULES YA GRUMPY TURDS. the codex with more indepth rules will come later.

I must say I really dont like the change to the heavy weppons of the baloons. This is to little complexity. On the other side, I really like jabing only 3 weppons on Thunderers

Thanks again for the stream! I just started playing KO last year, and i was kind of bummed out about the new rules, feeling like a lot of the things i enjoyed were gone, but your insight and excitement about the new possibilities has caught on! Looking forward to the next one o7

Thanks for the content! Great show

It's like 10th 40k I know it is very popular to say the least, but to me it feels flat, bland and boring. I know many that feels the same but they keep on playing, cause of the big pool of players, tournaments, money and time invested and just plain generic coverage. I have moved on to more interesting games, harder to get matches and tournaments but much deeper and more rewarding rules sets. Cheers!

Love your show and your insight, it is really good and fun to follow - can I please kindly suggest that you guys make sure not to talk all at the same time? It can get sometimes a bit hard to understand everyone's thoughts but other than that really great podcast, thanks a lot! 🙌

What's this 'putting my models on the board nonsense' that's just for battle tactics right? It's like they want me to learn how to actually play AOS instead of just floating around and shooting everything!

Zon 3x frigate and ironclad list is so much fun! Sad to see it go likely for 4th ed

Always a great day when I see a new aethercast vid!

I would love to see some irregular units for KO. Something to add to the pirate themes the books talk about.

My comment about ranged damage having its range across the board reduced at 1h25m DID NOT age well. Like as in less then 24 hours later.. skaven warlock engineer gets a flat 3 damage ignore "look Out Sir" 24" range sniper rifle. With Jezzails buff. LOLOL

I definitely have questions about prayers. I feel like there is a missing bit about how "ritual points" interact with "chanting rolls". Do you spend the ritual points and add them to the roll? Or do you just build up the meter and passively add that number to chanting rolls? They mentioned PRIESTS are important to kill so I wouldn't be surprised if you don't spend ritual points and they're just passively added to the "chanting roll"

Thanks

10th edition is flat and leaves a long lasting feeling of emptiness after every game. I have played 40k every edition since Rougetrader. 8th ed was a good step and 9 ed is the best edition so far even though it was terribly bloated.

Enjoyed the overview of my KO list, the secret behind the list is that - it's the models I have painted! I created the Kadgetzan Overlords as a 1500 narrative army a long time ago. It pre-dates Gloomspite Gitz, Contrast paints & Gotrek! I wanted to 'finish' the army recently to 2k and Gotrek was the missing piece, it was then a case of making the units I have Battleline so the army was actually legal. This is the result!