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Oink! = @) Running into Elric at Rivendell would put quite a new spin on things! Knowing him he'd want to keep the ring for himself!

Oh...shush...keep being here...don't underestimate the void your absence will create...love you brother...

Take care. Just make videos that you are passionate about when you are ready. And we will be here to watch them.

Thanks for so many videos of good content, Elf Bait! =)

Sorry I missed it my friend so typical for me 😆. Take it easy and I hope to see you around. 😎💫💯

Your live streams are just at bad time for me. I always watch them afterwards. I really like your content fwiw. Oink! = @ ) I think you have a lot to say and you underestimate your contribution. Your channel is interesting and one of the best because you are not overbearing. I personally find it very sad, that you are giving it up, but who am I? Just one very small Ferkel. = @ { You are not mediocre! You just do not get enough exposure. TH-cam and social media are just generally brutal. I understand and your feelings about your health. It's important that you do what is right for you. I am glad you are not stopping completely. I would miss your channel. = @ ( I will look forward to the 40 minute postings and will try to find you more often on discord although discord is not my favorite medium. Oink-oink! 🐗👍🏼❗️

Sorry i missed you live.

Some of this is great, some is tiresome. But it was definitely worth listening to overall and I'll come back again! Also, great audio quality all. A lot of smaller channels have terrible audio but you all sounded great

Sorry I missed the live stream... things I agree with and some I disagree with 🙂 Good chat guys.

Great stream Eli! I mean, I have to go with Bear, that "D&D" is the worst RPG out there... honestly, my kind of gaming and world has always had problems being adapted to something like D&D, mainly because as presented in modern D&D, Classes don't translate well to "jobs"...if ya get my meaning. Like...we have stats for NPC Guards... But then the Player has the "Fighter" class? ...even if you implemented older edition suggestions to flavour by renaming a Class or Prestige Class or Subclass or Specialisation...does that fix the core problem? I think the biggest problems to a system like PbtA is that its designed by gamers...not game designers. Now, granted, a gamer can, for sure, be a gamer designer...but my impression from PbtA's design has always been that its designed by a gamer, for gamers, of that niche. And, yeah, it takes away responsibility and control from the Game Master...so...why have a Game Master? ...granted, I know Bear would jump at pointing out the hypocracy of me saying that, when I apparently preach "Cypher System"... But the difference there is...Game Designers. Monte Cook wrote into the Cypher System Core Rules, that the GM has final say over a Player Intrusion...and it also details out the extent of a player intrusion...so you cant rewrite history or the GM's narrative with a PI. But, anyway... YAY for conversations! Sax is always fun!

I would play the hell out of Mean Streets!

Spider-Man is not a bully. Bullying is : motivation (by the actor), instigation (where none exists), predatory behavior toward an undeserving (innocent) party/parties and all of that undertaken chronically. Talking trash to deeply dangerous people that prey on, harm and "expire" the common population while you're trying to stop them, is not the same as the above. You'll also notice that Spider-Man as a persona with a mission, by intent has decided to face the same kind (not the same degree) of predatory people for the public, that Peter was forced to deal with in his personal life. He made himself a stop-gap between "bullies" and the population that they prey upon. Lastly : " *I've seen enough of this claim presented to make it factual* ". No. There are entire 350 page + books, multi-hour documentaries, etc where a wrong idea is presented at length. Some people present a wrong idea in 10 words, some do it with 235.

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Good game guys! Oink! = @ )

Bear.. enjoys being arsehole. Noted. 👍🏼

Tell me you are a WOTC simp without telling me you are a WOTC simp

20:42 I feel that way with some game systems... Trying to learn the system from the book, seems like I am vastly underqualified to be understanding the blend of "Legalise" and "Quantum Physics" being explained in the book... ...but then you *PLAY* it, and suddenly its completely understandable! I think those times are a failure of the book team OVER-explaining. I personally feel that way towards FFG's Star Wars RPG...playing it is alot easier to learn then reading it!

BRP has a book called the Magic Book that is just the thee magic systems from Runequest if you want them for BRP.

Which class is Drogo?

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Sorry, as someone who dislikes B2 as well (or, dislikes the internet's rather rose-tinted nostalgia turning it into "THE BEST EVER"!) I don't find as little in your video to convince me of its qualities as you don't find convincing arguments in the original article; mostly it boils down to "Nuh-uh, this is great and you are clueless." As a starting player I'd rather play B1, even if that ist just a simple dungeon crawl. It may have had its use at the time it was published, but frankly there isn't *any* encounter or situation in B2 memorable enough that I find worth using for my adventures ("Oooh, would you look at that - another 10 Skeletons with Protection from Turning amulets."). I'd say if you want emergent storytelling you could cobble together something way more interesting and exciting from, say, a good Dyson Logos map and a few random tables.

B2 requires players who aren't waiting to be spoonfed and are willing to risk death of their characters. So not for most 5e players.

Fun thing, if you go onto the list of best D&D modules on the same site, you find keep on the borderlands at rank 2. And yes it is written by the same author. Seemingly he likes what it represents and how you can play it at your own table, just not the way it was originally written.

Would love to play or watch a sunday game, absolutely.

Sax I'd watch the accounting Gm for sure!

B2 Keep on the Borderlands is one of the best D&D modules ever made. There's a reason it's held in such high regard in the hobby. Still fun to play to this day, and I plan to run it again soon...

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This seems fair and if this was a few years ago I would agree. The problem is that the newer players think they have a right to dictate how everyone else plays and they invade groups to subvert them. You can be peaceful when you aren't being attack but we don't live in those times unfortunately. I'll give you an example, I used to work at a vegetarian restaurant as a server. A customer came in and asked if we serve meat and I said no and explainrd that this is a vegetarian restaurant. This apparently deeply upset him and he threw a tantrum as if I was trying to force him to vegetarian (I'm not vegetarian by the way) he could have just left but instead he decided to act like an asshole. Now while you might say that this lesson is for him unfortunately these people don't listen, so gatekeeping is good and healthy otherwise these people will never stop until they destroy your hobby. You want to be kind respectful to other but that must go both ways however in the meantime gatekeep and gatekeep hard. Again remember it is easy to be peaceful when you aren't getting attacked.

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Great show! Huzzah!

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Yet somehow, just three days later, he was able to publish a list of the ten BEST modules of all time and B2 was on that list, too.

By today's standards, most early modules are "bad"

I mean he could be right it's unplayable today. But over the decades we've played it a time of two and had fun. No way it this the worst of the tsr adventure modules! ~Brian

i cant tell if this is click/engagement bait or if he is genuinely ret@rded egregiously illiterate language such as "on accident" has me suspecting the latter

My problem with old modules like B2 is that they seem too random and haphazard. Like, the wandering monster tables are ridiculous with no rhyme or reason at all, just a collection of "level appropriate" monsters like it was a videogame (probably where early videogames got the idea too). A lot of the actual encounters all seem like they are "if you fight here, you're going to get wiped" with ridiculous numbers of monsters (18 giant rats spring to mind), which I mean I am all for some encounters being the sort you need to be creative or parley, but when most encounters are "You enter a room with 12 goblins" with a typical 4-6 PC 1st level party, it's a little stupid because what, you're not expected to fight ANYTHING? Not to mention the absolute "lol gotcha" bullshit which is the Medusa in Room 64, where you literally cannot tell she's a medusa until you step inside to look at her.

Perhaps this article is based on online arguments. Lots of dialogue circles around gaming, history, RPGs, and medieval fighting generally use "common knowledge" a.k.a shit redditors say as a source rather than reading the material at hand. Notice that most of the criticisms are ... shall we say, generic.... so generic that it hurts one might say.

Great chat fellas. I've enjoyed this and working my way through some of the other content on the channel, particularly the "By the Sword" project. I've been shaping S&S/Pulp fantasy experiences in my communities as well so it's great to find like minded communities discussing these themes. As a new subscriber I was interested in joining your discord community, unfortunately the invite link provided has expired. If that is a space you maintain could I get or be directed to an updated invite? Thanks guys, glad to have found you.

9:50 I’ll probably catch heat here but here goes! What was written for 10 year olds back in 1979 is considered complex for 18-25 year olds today. The kids playing back in the late 70s - early 80s were some of the brightest in school (thus Nerds). We were veracious readers of fantasy and Sci Fi; members in math & computer clubs (when computers relied on code ie. DOS), etc. Quite honestly, we were not coddled in school and were generally SMARTER than the average student of today (even at nearly twice our age). The author of the article does not realize that when he calls something written for children “complex” that he is really exposing his own lack of complex thinking. Clearly part of the “Everyone Gets a Trophy” generation.

After 40 years of running games, mostly D&D, B2 is the adventure I’ve run the most frequently and for the greatest number of sessions (many return trips). This was a great video, I agree with you 100%.

I really need to stay up Sunday nights to catch these live...at 1-2am...geez. As apparently I'm the local "Eberron" expert, that couldn't be further from the idea and concepts and story in Eberron. Like, from when the setting is...set...it was only 6 years ago that the first Airships were made, the knowledge being stolen from the Dark Elf clans of Xen'drik...who themselves got it from the ruins of the ancient Giant Civilisation, from some...60,000 years ago? But, more to an example... Everyone probably knows what the Lightning Rail is in Eberron...yes? Thats those "hovering" Electricity Trains... Do you know what those are? ...the "Engine" is actually a containment for a Huge or Larger Air Elemental, whose been bound to a large Dragonshard, and there's a Dragonmarked "driver" with "Lightning Reins" basically whipping the Elemental to either *stop* or *go*. Now, I dont know about you...but the only difference between Eberron and Greyhawk...is that someone in Eberron discovered you could Bind and Elemental, instead of using Horses or such, to pull a carriage. Thats why all 'vehicles' in Eberron have the "Elemental" monikar in front of them. ...dont make me do an Eberron video to explain all this! :P

You know what weird about him saying it cant be played anymore? Keep on the Borderlands was the playtest module that 5E was written on so not only is he wrong but the modern game used B2 as its foundation to test its mechanics.

I always have seen B2 as a solid module and a great foundation. It is solid because you can pretty much always run it with a new group and it will always"work", I keep an extra copy in my DM briefcase (I know fancy) just in case. It is a good foundation because like most old modules you are are supposed to add to it and modify it to your needs, I have made many revisions that make my version unique and to my liking. A few of my favorite "mods" is to add B1 to the cave of the unknown but that is a fairly standard mod you can also add Mike's Dungeon from DrivethruRPG which is really good. I also have a custom version of the Minotaur cave, mine works completely differently from the original and is brutal. I also use Monster & Treasure Assortment to add more of both and make it more interesting, essentially it adds d100 tables per dungeon level of both monsters and magic items and really spices up the game. I think anyone who says its bad is either lazy or lacks imagination. However I don't even think its bad if you run it by the book.

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Yes Dice goblins like to roll them bones

Good points

This is so true More than 6-7 players is really hard to manage