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Evo Renewables
United Kingdom
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2023
⚡️ NICEIC Approved Electrician
☀️ MCS Solar Pv Installer
🔋 Battery Storage
🚘 Electric Vehicle Charging
☀️ MCS Solar Pv Installer
🔋 Battery Storage
🚘 Electric Vehicle Charging
Parallel Givenergy All In One
Have you ever wondered how to install a Givenery All In One battery to another Givenergy All In One?
Join me on this installation to see how we managed to get the total 17kw onsite capacity from the DNO
Join me on this installation to see how we managed to get the total 17kw onsite capacity from the DNO
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Tesla Powerwall 3
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Evo Renewables have been one of the first companies to install the new Tesla Powerwall 3. Join us this week as we talk through this 11kw installation with whole home back up.
Repairing a Tesla Powerwall installation
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We were recently appointed the job for repairing this test the power wall installation where the previous electrician had managed to himself electrocuted due to poor workmanship the powerwall had reverse polarity and incorrect phase rotation and had never worked.
Kayaking to offshore wind turbines with @ConSeanWay
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Kayaking to offshore wind turbines with @ConSeanWay
Givenergy Commercial Battery
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In this episode we’re working onsite at Zip Tower World in South Wales to help get their off grid solar and battery system ready for commission using the GivEnergy commercial battery system.
Commercial Solar Panels In Cheshire
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Join us as we install this 40kw array at a commercial site in Cheshire.
Sean Conway’s Energy Journey - Part 2
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Sean Conway’s Energy Journey - Part 2
@ConSeanWay's Energy Journey | Myenergi Libbi Battery Part 1
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@ConSeanWay's Energy Journey | Myenergi Libbi Battery Part 1
Solaredge Light Industrial Solar Install
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Solaredge Light Industrial Solar Install
Commercial Solar Panel Install Cheshire
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Commercial Solar Panel Install Cheshire
Fault Fining on a 50KW Ground Mount Solar Panel System
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Fault Fining on a 50KW Ground Mount Solar Panel System
Givenergy All In One Battery Storage - Cheshire
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Givenergy All In One Battery Storage - Cheshire
If you need any tips on local update. Email me. Updating locally should take 30s each device.
@@PaulLandregan I did and this was the update you sent over 😂
Nice work. Been there with commissioning Giv. Fitted my first Sigenergy recently, commissioning was a breeze and the install was simple. Interested to see how it performs.
I’ve heard good things about the Sigenergy
What about those pocket pants you are sporting? Are the pockets part of the pants? where can we get those?
Standard Snickers workwear 👌
Have to admit being a little puzzled by the explanation of the DNO.............. Have they applied a 17kw export limit overall? Doesn't the SolarEdge ac out feed into the GE Gateway so that it remains working in the event of a power outage? In which case why not simply turn down the AIO's export by 0.5kw each or one AIO by 1kw for simplicity sake. Or are you actually saying that they have imposed some sort of import limit? Or something else entirely. I appreciate that you have to work within the rules laid down. But the reality could easily be that a house had 2 or 3 bathrooms each with 10.5kw Electric Showers.
The DNO have authority to limit your onsite capacity and also the export limitation. In this case the onsite capacity was granted at 17kw which is the highest for a single phase installation and they have also imposed a 8kw export limit. The Solaredge inverter is installed from the AIO gateway but all 3 devices have the ability to discharge and export. The gateway is set at 8kw export to comply with the G100 and the Solaredge output was turned down to 5kw to comply with the onsite capacity of 17kw. You’re also right that a house could have multiple electric showers each being 10kw but they also don’t have the ability to export to the grid and change the DNO voltage which is one of the reasons they impose export limitations
@@Evorenewables thanks for the reply and clearing that up. Yeah I knew about the electric shower situation - I was sort of playing devils advocate as it feels like one regulation/rule set is being applied differently. I completely get the export limitation. But from an import perspective if I have a 100A main head fuse then as long as I don't overload that then I should be perfectly fine. The 32A combined load restriction seems ridiculous in the face of a 10.5kw shower requiring a 45A fuse, or an 9.5kw induction hob using a 40A fuse. And yet I need permission from the DNO to install an energy consumer - AC coupled & Battery or even a Heat Pump.
Just got offered this video in my feed, have to say very impressed with the video quality, good editing and flow with a good explanation of what's going on without excess unnecessary talking, so well done! Only thing I was missing was seeing the outdoor unit with its canopy installed and finished! Also found the ending a bit abrupt - maybe suggest an outro that has your company info and a thumbnail to your channel and last/other videos - would help someone like me end up down the rabbit hole of more videos.
Hi Jeff, Thanks for watching! I agree, we did end the video quite quickly as as it pouring down with rain so it limited on how / where we could film. The canopy was just a cheap one supplied by the client. Again thanks for watching and taking time to provide feedback!
Great video! Them all in one brackets being in two pieces does my absolute head in and always takes 3-4 attempts! Giv commission defo right on that one convinced it needs it call home to make it work!
It’s pathetic isn’t it. Build quality is brilliant but software is pants to get commissioned
@Evorenewables I'm interested to see what the new AIO is like. Currently it's between that and the power wall 3 for me.
The New AIO isn’t out just yet. We’re big fans of the Powerwall 3 as it is great value for money . We would be happy to provide you with a quote if you wanted to drop me an email. Ben@evorenewables.co.uk
Nice video. I couldn't see in the videos but did the cables (DC + Data) between the two stacks of batteries go at floor level or through the trunking you mounted on top of the batteries?
I think we went through the top trunking if I remember correctly, but if I’m honest I’m not sure 😂
@@Evorenewables Thanks for the quick reply. I think that would certainly be the neatest way but not sure with the supplied pre-made cables it would work. The cables supplied have the negative battery cables doing from inverter to battery directly below, then to the bottom battery, then across to stack 2 and up. The positive does the opposite going from the inverter down across and up to the furthest battery and then works its way back. I was trying to picture doing it through the trunking at the top with the supplied cables but was making my head hurt 😂
@@brianlangley9317 We have done it both ways in the past. I can't remember specifically how Sean's job was done. You just need to make sure you have the right cabe pack for the number of batteries as this will give the length to go to the next stack.
Nice work! Regarding expansion of the Solar, for example, say you use 2 of the MPPTs and in the future aim to install into the third, does this need support for Tesla to commission? Cheers.
No you can simply connect it and it will work without having to call Tesla support.
You can replace the transparent glas simply without taking of the whole mirrow holder.. Cheap and easy to do... Found out to late myself. Now I have a spare one....
I’m away to have a similar system installed. Garage is separate from the house. 4.4kw of solar though. Looks a tidy job.
I’ve never been a “huge” fan of the Powerwall but the PW3 is so much better and great value for money. The gateway could do with a new version but overall I really like the PW3
@ had a few options to be fair, but thought the backing of having a Tesla system would be an advantage down the line. Maybe being taken in by the glitz! We will see.
What a shame it needs those isolators
That's our thoughts too, normally we would have just used the Tesla isolator however their instructions says to install external isolators.
@@Evorenewables Could you drop a link to the new DC isolator instructions you mentioned at the beginning please. I'm having a PW3 system installed next week and want to educate myself
Hey, It’s on the installer partner October news letter which gets emailed out. If you wanted to drop us an email I can forward it on to you.
Hey, It’s on the installers October monthly news letter. If you drop us an email I will forward it over to you.
@@Evorenewables Thanks that would be great. I've dropped an email to your info@ address
I think I'm right in saying that you 'have to' get your settings correct at commissioning... My PW3 was commissioned with a limited charge rate, so the battery wouldn't grid charge higher than 1.7kW when I first tried.... Found this info on the Tesla Academy TH-cam and contacted Tesla support for them to change the setting. Apparently installer gets one shot at it, then you have to go to 'support' to have it changed. (With my initial setting, I'd not have been able to fully charge in the 3 hour 'Octopus Flux' window for use the next day.. Important consideration in winter). I'm looking forward to the expansion battery units (due Q1-2025 in UK according to Tesla) as my ideal for winter would be 2x13.5kWh
Thats exactly right, upon first commission the engineer can set the inverter and G100 settings. After that it requires Tesla to make any further changes.
Looks good guys, How does one overcome the fuse box/consumer unit created in the gateway being installed in a combustible construction (namely plastic), do you get the client to waiver this ? This looks like its gonna shake the market this battery a bit which is nice 😊
Thats a good question and not one I can honestly say I had considered before. I would maybe class that as a deviation outside the scope of BS7671 but I would also be looking to see if the gateway falls within this specific reg.... its something we will certainly be looking in to.
Looks near identical scale to what I’m looking for, don’t suppose you could give an idea of budget please? I want 28*455W, 1 PW3 DC coupled, similar size property but we have concrete tiles not slate. You in the NW, your website doesn’t seem to work?
Hello, Yes were in the Northwest. Our website was down over the weekend whilst we did some housekeeping on it. Please feel free to drop us an email and we can discuss your project and get you some prices over. Thanks Ben
Doesn’t look like there’s very much inside the power wall after inverter and wiring bits? Tidy job though.
It’s actually very simple to install and great that the inverter is configurable
Not bad
Thanks
Good job boyz
Cheers! 👋
Nice episode Ben. Each of those little cars needs 20kw to go up the ramp at the start? Do they get winched up and left to roll back to the shed, or powered all the way round?
Their demand is 20kw of power as they go around and they're powered continually all the way around. The ride takes around 3 minutes so it would be I imagine around 1kwh of energy used at a demand of 20kw
Nice job Ben & co. Knocked it out faster than a medium domestic job too.
Commercial can be so much faster than domestic. It’s a lot less fiddly!
Where is the fire supression going??
Thanks for your concern but no fire suppression is needed
Where is the fire suppression?
Again, no fire suppression needed
Where is the fire supression??
There’s no requirements for storage systems to have fire suppression
Do you fit fire supression at the same timeor is it an extra?
The Solar Edge batteries have filled in fire suppression, but there is no requirements to fit by suppression on battery storage systems
Do the kits come with FIRE SUPPRESSION??
There’s no requirement for fire suppression
Hey do you know the proper order of how to turn off the inverter, disconnect, and battery/batteries? A coworker told me if you do not turn these off in the correct order that you will ruin the battery.
Yep, toggle switch off, AC Isolator off, Battery toggle switch off, battery MCB off and then reverse for start up
How do you find commissioning? We always find that the GivEnergy dongles (across their entire range of products) are much trickier to connect to a client's wifi network compared to other brands. Connectivity issues are our main gripe as it makes it difficult to predict how long commissioning will take. We could always hardwire of course, but it's a bit frustrating when other devices connect seamlessly and we're often swimming upstream with the GivEnergy kit.
Commissioning on all Givenergy systems is a nightmare and something we dread however once you’ve passed that point they typically work very well. We just now allow additional time on GivEnergy jobs which could mean a return visit the next morning
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One thing I've not understood with this, hopefully someone can help pls. The Givenergy 'All in one' is a battery with inverter in the same box. The Gateway is a separate box to which solar panels are connected. So do the solar panels still need a solar inverter to conver to AC to plug into this gateway. Or is the gateway capable of taking the DC straight from the solar panels ? I.e. Is a separate solar inverter still required with a system like this, or is the All in One and Gateway all that is needed ? It would surely make sense to be able to use DC from solar panels to charge the battery without the solar input being converted to AC then back to DC again.
Hi Chris, Great question! The All In One is an AC coupled battery system so still requires the Solar Pv to have a standard string inverter. There’s Pro’s and Con’s for having an Ac coupled system or a DC coupled system however the all in ones main advanced Is the whole home back up in the event of a power cut due to the gateway. The All In One is a fantastic system but in my opinion the name is wrong as it’s actually not all in one.
@@EvorenewablesMany thanks for this explanation. I think I agree, the name 'All in One' is a bit confusing. When they finally do add DC inputs to the battery, they'll have to call that something else ... 'Even more in One' maybe ; ) But yes, it seems like a good system, cheaper than Powerwall3, and already available here in the UK. Thanks for sharing all this information/experience.
The story I heard was that it was due to be called the Givenergy Liberty. Inside the gateway it’s also labelled up as Liberty connections however MyEnergi brought out the Libbi before Givenergy so the name was changed to AIO. Might just be a rumour but that’s what we’ve heard. The AIO in my opinion is just as good as a Powerwall and for a great price
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That sauna is a real Heath Robinson set up! But it actually does work well!
great video fellas
Awesome, glad you liked it!
Just married by any chance?
lol 😂 nope just hold the camera with the right hand and point with the left
Yes, the original installers failed a bit there...Solar101, protect your cables !!!
Lovely short video with perfect amount of detail. Hoping to get one of these under stairs in my new build shortly!
Awesome, Thanks for the feedback
Out of interest, why install the DB so that you can only work on it with steps? Seems a bit of a faff and would have been much easier to work on and maintain in the future installed at a sensible height?
In all honesty mainly because it’s the nearest option and in keeping with the existing installation and due to the fact that the site does store pallets etc in this area so up out of the way stops any unwanted damage to the DB etc.
What if you invest the exact cost of the optimisers you speak of into more panels and another inverter won't that fit in better?
There’s no real right or wrong way. Sometimes it comes down to clients budgets for example. It’s worth remembering that optimisers don’t just optimise the generation, it also provides panel level monitoring aswell as Safe Dc where it restricts the output voltage in the event of a fault to prevent things like arching and fire etc
Surely that moustache is not compliant with regulations?
Fortunately the moustache is no longer with us 😂
He’s got a point tho lol he’s already paid for a scaffold lol
Nice
Thanks
That is a sizeable job by any standards. Well done!
It certainly was. We did this a little while ago and it’s been generating brilliantly over summer
I have an all-electric house and AIO with an EV but no solar unfortunately. Currently my storage heating/hot water is fed via a separate switched CU from the 5th meter port. The Tesla charger(with PEN fault breaker) is currently fed from the main 24H CU (not the AIO as I already had that prior to getting the AIO) Would I gain anything by shifting the EV charger over to the Gateway (quite a tricky job due lack of access) I've read about problems if I shift to Octopus Intelligent causing the car charger to drain the battery during EV extra slots.
The only thing you would gain is seeing it on the Givenery App otherwise there’s no real need to do it. You can set the battery to do both discharge between certain times to prevent scheduling EV charging from drawing the battery, however I don’t think you can get it to not charge if it’s on Octopus Intelligent….. might be a question for the Givenergy tech support.
You mentioned the EV charger can be wired into the Gateway. Does it have to be GivEnergy’s own charger, or can you wire in, say, an existing Zappi or similar?
It can be any 3rd party EV point. The reason behind doing it is just so that it shows up on the Givenergy monitoring.
@@Evorenewables thanks - that's what I originally thought but my installer told me it had to be the GivEnergy charger which didn't sound right to me, so I'll go back to them...
It can be any, however one of the objections to do this is the installer may have to use al alternate branded MCB to what Givenergy have supplied and many installers don’t like to mix and match brands which is why in the end we opted not to add it to the gateway.
@@Evorenewables ahhhh ok, I see your point, yeah I can understand why you might not want that to happen. Thanks very much
Do these still come with type AC breakers?
Yep still type AC. Whether or not Givenergy are going to change those in the future I’m unsure
@@Evorenewables Notified them after my first install too, realised they were time delayed aswell, they said you can swap them but keen on mixing the brand with what they'd supplied.
For me it would be good if you could buy a range of breakers from them as even putting the EV into the gateway you need to supply your own breaker would be nice if you could customise but overall a good system
New Gateway comes with type A Breakers and we will be looking at offering a range of breakers to meet job specifications. 👍
@@seancotterell14 that’s really good to know. In all honestly I’m hard pressed to find a retro fit battery storage solution that does everything the AIO does for the money it costs. It’s a fantastic bit of kit, with a great price tag.
Nice job! 👍🏼
Thanks! 👍
I respect u @ cory.
How are those north facing panels doing with generation?
Not actually too bad! The North facing panels this month (14 days) have done an average of 1.2kwh each. The south facing have done an average of 2.20kwh each. So the 12x North facing have done 14.4kw in total this month and the 5x South facing have done 11kw
@@Evorenewables Wow, thanks for getting back to me so quickly and that's some impressive generation for north facing in winter time 👍
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