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Greetings, fellow traveler, and welcome to Burn Enough!
This channel is your destination for all things MILITARY SCIENCE FICTION, with a primary focus on novels. Join me as we explore the epic stories, futuristic battles, and rich worlds that define this niche subgenre!
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Current 2024 projects:
★ Book reviews: Drop Trooper Universe
★ Book reviews: Starship Troopers, Dorsai!, The Forever War, Ender's Game
★ Deep dive: Non-DTU, Aethon, Variant, MSF2024
★ Highlights from the Military Science Fiction Podcast
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This page was last edited on 16 October 2024
This channel is your destination for all things MILITARY SCIENCE FICTION, with a primary focus on novels. Join me as we explore the epic stories, futuristic battles, and rich worlds that define this niche subgenre!
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Current 2024 projects:
★ Book reviews: Drop Trooper Universe
★ Book reviews: Starship Troopers, Dorsai!, The Forever War, Ender's Game
★ Deep dive: Non-DTU, Aethon, Variant, MSF2024
★ Highlights from the Military Science Fiction Podcast
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This page was last edited on 16 October 2024
Armor by John Steakley - Military Sci-Fi Book Review
Explore the intense world of John Steakley's "Armor" in this in-depth book review. Perfect for fans of military sci-fi, we dive into its gripping combat, psychological depth, and what makes it a standout in the genre. Don't miss this breakdown on one of the most iconic novels in military science fiction!
426 pages
Published: 1-Dec 1984
Publisher: DAW Books
Amazon: a.co/d/0Uci2Od
Goodreads: www.goodreads.com/book/show/102327.Armor
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426 pages
Published: 1-Dec 1984
Publisher: DAW Books
Amazon: a.co/d/0Uci2Od
Goodreads: www.goodreads.com/book/show/102327.Armor
#militaryscifi #scifibooks #booktube #bookreview #booktubesff #Armor #JohnSteakley #Steakley
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The Forever War by Joe Haldeman - Military Sci-Fi Book Review
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Dorsai! by Gordon R. Dickson - Military Sci-Fi Book Review
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Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein - Military Sci-Fi Book Review
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The 5 Novels That SHAPED Military Sci-Fi
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Kinetic Strike by Rick Partlow - Military Sci-Fi Book Review
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All Military Sci-Fi Book Series By Rick Partlow
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Contact Front by Rick Partlow - Military Sci-Fi Book Review
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Shai Dorsai!
I appreciate that. Striving for the Dorsai ideal!
I'm going to have to re-read it. I read it a looooong time ago and don't remember a thing about it.
Sounds like a perfect time for a re-read! Armor is such a powerful book - it’s amazing how it stays with you emotionally even if the details fade. Hope you enjoy diving back into it!
Read this many years ago. Weed was legal, men and women serving together in infantry units. Men and women sharing bunks as a matter of official Army policy.
Thanks for sharing! Those elements really highlight Haldeman’s unique take on futuristic military and societal norms.
The author did write a sequel.
@@billbaggans1799 You're absolutely right, thanks for pointing that out! Joe Haldeman wrote a sequel to The Forever War titled Forever Free, but unfortunately it's not Military Sci-Fi.
There's also a graphic novel made of this.
Thanks for mentioning the graphic novel! I haven't read it, but I'd assume it's a great way to experience The Forever War visually. Have you read it? I'd love to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the book!
I have never even HEARD of "Armor"; although I own and love each of the others. So thank you for a new book reading recommendation. It is hard/impossible to say which I love the most, each is unique and has a different slant; sadly, the film adaptations of both Starship Troopers and Enders Game were at best, poor; SST's violence and callousness are so OTT, that people who HADNT read the book, were confused into thinking he was glorifying war; and Enders Game messed up with one line, in a short, but incredibly important scene, where Ender and his sister talk on the raft - completely changing the meaning of the film, from that point onwards.
You're in for a treat with Armor! It’s a gripping read. I agree - each of these books offers something unique. The films, sadly, didn’t capture the depth of Starship Troopers or Ender’s Game. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Timothy Zahn's Cobra saga, especially the original trilogy. It documents the consequences of creating "super soldiers" and then the failure to reintegrate them into society. Very good page turning novels from an underappreciated author.
Timothy Zahn’s Cobra saga is an excellent recommendation! The original trilogy explores the challenges of creating and reintegrating 'super soldiers' - a fascinating theme in military sci-fi. Timothy Zahn’s incredible talent has earned him five Dragon Awards, and I’ll definitely consider featuring his work in a future video.
I would say the John W Campbells novel the Mightest Machine (1947) was template for space fleet combat. I would also throw in E.E. Doc Smith's Lensman series (1948) as interplanetary wars were fought. Streakly I would say is to modern along with Card to be much of influence as they could be considered derivative works of Campbell and Smith.
Great suggestions! The Mightiest Machine and Lensman definitely influenced space combat and interplanetary war. Thanks for sharing!
I was also surprised he didn't mention E.E.Doc. Smith. Both the Lensmen and Skylark series delve into the science and action of both military and individuals. Bravery and skill without tactics and strategy lead to, on a large scale, losing. While on a small scale, bravery and skill can keep you alive. The writings showed the lessons learnt by some after WW1.
Great point! E.E. 'Doc' Smith's Lensmen and Skylark series are foundational, blending epic military action with individual heroism. They’ll definitely feature in my future videos - stay tuned!
I'll make a recommendation which may be a bit out there: The Legend of the Jade Phoenix trilogy, by Robert Thurston. It's about a MechWarrior of Clan Jade Falcon, set in the BattleTech / MechWarrior universe, and of all the books adapted from the game these three are the very best. There are also 2 or 3 follow-on books centered on the supporting cast characters which are pretty good, too. It's odd because though the characters are human, they are warriors in a society which is very different from the western-centric one we live in and which we are used to seeing in these fiction stories, and in fact the enemies they are war with are more like us. Unless you really hate BattleTech or mecha stories, it's worth a read.
Thanks for the recommendation! I’ve heard good things about the Legend of the Jade Phoenix trilogy and the unique perspective it offers through Clan Jade Falcon’s society. It’s definitely on my radar, especially as I’m a fan of mecha and love seeing how different cultures are portrayed in sci-fi!
I've read all five, and can recommend all of them except for The Forever War, the only one I did not like. One of the clearest messages I got from The Forever War was that Joe Haldeman absolutely hated the military and anything to do with it, and that fact clearly shaped his plot and his depictions of the military and government. I will also recommend some of the books mentioned by others here, anything by David Drake or Jerry Pournelle, and Jack Campbell's Lost Fleet series.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It's interesting how The Forever War resonates differently for everyone - Haldeman's experiences definitely shaped its tone. I also love the recommendations for David Drake, Jerry Pournelle, and Jack Campbell’s Lost Fleet series - top-tier military sci-fi!
One of my favorites. And as an aside I just finished "Contact Front". I will read the rest of the series but not really impressed so far. It goes from one cliche to the next. Protagonist is the kid-from-wrong-side-of-the-tracks who is a whiz at operating is power armor. The suit's armor is "biphase carbide" which is the armor used by Steve Jackson's Orges and when describing the suits he all but calls them "steel gorillas" (Starship Troopers). The action scenes are top notch and at least our hero isn't an instant leader/tactical genius.
Glad The Forever War is a favorite! Interesting take on Contact Front. But I’m curious to see how the rest of the series develops (reading book 5 at the moment).
Armor was good. It would make a good movie IF it was filmed scene by scene and word for word from the book.
Agreed, Armor would be amazing as a faithful, shot-for-shot movie - but has Hollywood ever done that? Unfortunately, I can’t think of one!
I wanted to give this series a try and looked it up on my libraries website. No results for book title or authors name!! So, I went to Amazon and bought it!
Thanks for giving it a shot! It's a shame your library didn’t have it, but I hope you enjoy diving into the Drop Trooper universe - it’s worth it! I'd be interested to hear your take after you finish the first book!
I have read all of these. To be honest, Starship Trooper influenced me to become a paratrooper.
That's incredible! Starship Troopers clearly left a profound impact on you-what an amazing way to channel its influence. Thank you for your service!
Thanks for the comment! As somebody that has gone through a similar journey of reading it as a kid and again much later, I appreciate this not simply being labeled a militaristic dystopian future glorifying fascism as done so often in reviews (or by e.g. Paul Verhoeven). The arguments are at times blunt, sure, but they are entertaining (see Mr. Dubois discussing with his students) and serve the story. The novel does provide an interesting opposite and stark contrast to today‘s society, and many points would certainly merit a conversation (e.g., does a draftee have an alienable right to life when fighting a war defending the country?)
Thanks for sharing! I also appreciate a more nuanced view of Starship Troopers rather than dismissing it as mere militaristic propaganda. Heinlein’s arguments, though direct, serve the story well and spark meaningful discussions, like the one you mentioned about rights in wartime. It’s definitely a novel that contrasts sharply with modern perspectives and invites debate.
I'd also add the Sten series by Allen Cole and Chris Bunch, it's an excellent blend of military scifi, space opera and humour.
Great recommendation! The Sten series really does hit that perfect mix of military sci-fi, space opera, and humor. It's on my radar for a future video!
This above all other classic military sci fi novels deserves a big screen adaption. I don't even like it that much, but the story deserves to be told on the big screen with a budget that supports it.
I agree that The Forever War would make an incredible big-screen adaptation. Its themes are so profound and relevant, and with the right budget and director, it could be a cinematic masterpiece!
@@BurnEnough I get the feeling that in today's Hollyweird it would get the "Starship Troopers" treatment.
@@timberry4709 You're probably right - there’s always that risk of a Starship Troopers-style reinterpretation. While Forever War deserves a thoughtful and faithful adaptation, today’s Hollywood might focus more on spectacle (and/or wokeness) than capturing the novel’s deeper themes.
Shadow Run novels before they went totally fantasy. The stories are frightening in how the predict developments in contracting, megacorps, weapons development, IT corruption.
Shadowrun's early novels are indeed chillingly prescient about corporate power and tech corruption. It's amazing how well they blend sci-fi with social commentary. A fascinating universe!
I’ve read Armor, Enders Game and Starship Troopers at least 7 times each over the last 45 years. They are like old friends who are still alive and kicking.
That's an amazing testament to their timeless appeal! Revisiting those classics really does feel like catching up with old friends. Truly the mark of great storytelling!
Still waiting to see Dorsai on the big screen.
Same here! The Dorsai stories would make an incredible series or movie with the right creative team. Fingers crossed it happens someday!
Forever War
👍👍 Starship trooper & Armor are always in arms reach.
The only book in the series I read was "Young Bleys". Wasn't impressed. Turn to Pournelle & Drake.
"Young Bleys" is definitely a different flavor compared to the core Dorsai books. Pournelle & Drake’s works, especially Falkenberg's Legion and Hammer’s Slammers, are fantastic alternatives if you’re after hard-hitting military sci-fi!
No Bolo? Those were hugely popular and gave us sentient tanks!
Bolo is definitely a cornerstone of military sci-fi, with its sentient tanks and their deep sense of duty and sacrifice. It’s a glaring omission on my part, but I’ll definitely include it in a future video!
I have not had the opportunity to read this book yet. I have been told that the book and movie were very different. The movie though was brilliant piece of social satire and an anti-war commentary. I don't think the movie is appreciated enough.
The book and movie are indeed very different, almost like two separate works. While the book explores duty, citizenship, and the philosophy of war, the movie leans into satire and anti-war commentary. Both have their merits, but they resonate with audiences in vastly different ways!
I am actually reading 'Armor' now. Read everything else years ago. Troopers vs Forever War are two sides of one issue. The inner and outer. Dorsai Ender's Game There are others that id say need to be considered. However good choice.
Glad to hear you’re reading Armor! It’s such a powerful book. I agree - Starship Troopers and Forever War do present two very different perspectives on the same issue. And yes, there are definitely other worthy contenders. I’ll be making a part 2 video to cover even more titles, so stay tuned!
Many interesting characters and factions. Soldier ask not now or ever where to war your banners go Anarchs legions all surround us strike and do not count the blow...
Absolutely, the characters and factions in Dorsai! are so compelling, and that verse captures the spirit of the series perfectly. Such a powerful reminder of the philosophical depth in Dickson’s writing. Thanks for sharing!
A fun one was The Bug Wars by Rober Asprin. No humans in the story...
Thanks for the recommendation! I haven't read The Bug Wars by Robert Asprin yet, but it sounds like a fun and unique take on the genre, especially with no humans involved. I'll have to check it out!
Stainless steel Rat.
Gap into conflict as well. Not that they shaped anything. Just fun reads.
Great suggestions! "Stainless Steel Rat" and "Gap into Conflict" are definitely fun reads, though not necessarily genre-defining. But sometimes, it's nice to just enjoy a good story! Appreciate the input!
If you like Drop Trooper type stories have you read "In Fury Born" by David Weber? He took his previous novel "Path of the Fury" and added a prequel to it (giving you essentially two books in one). The prequel covers the events of the journey of the protagonist, Alicia DeVries, of "Path of the Fury", from a regular marine into an elite Drop Commando. The prequel is pure military sci-fi.
Great recommendation! I plan to include it in my upcoming video on contemporary military sci-fi novels. Thanks for sharing!
@@BurnEnough I'm so behind in my reading I just realized I have "Contact Front" in my Kindle queue. 😁
@@timberry4709 Sounds like you’ve got some great reading ahead! I hope the 16 books in the main series don’t intimidate you, or the 44 books in the entire Drop Trooper universe (if you’re planning to read them all, like me)!
These selections are also the best examples, in my opinion. But out of all of them, the Dorsai series are my favorite. The Childe Cycle is a fascinating saga, but I'm really just drawn to the ones about the Dorsai (and Soldier, Ask Not - which is kind of tangential to that theme).
Great picks! The Childe Cycle is indeed a fascinating saga, and the Dorsai-centric stories, along with Soldier, Ask Not, are truly standout works. I just uploaded my Dorsai book review, so feel free to check it out!
Was wondering what to read next, now I know keep up the good work, oh and not sure it qualifies in your genre but I really loved "theirs not to reason why" by Jean Johnson
Glad I could help with your next read! Thanks for the recommendation - "Theirs Not to Reason Why" by Jean Johnson is a great pick, even if it's a bit outside the classic military sci-fi genre. Keep an eye out for more videos coming soon!
Sounds like someone took some heavy inspiration from the Frontlines series.
Good catch! Frontlines by Marko Kloos likely influenced a lot of modern military sci-fi, but Contact Front has its own unique twists. Have you read both? I'd love to hear your take!
@@BurnEnough I read and finished the first Frontlines series and started the second one. I like the close correlation to IRL military. I haven't read Contact Front, yet (isn't that another word for frontline 🤔), but it's on my watchlist.
@@thomas_jay Frontlines does an excellent job capturing that real-world military vibe! Contact Front is definitely in the same vein, and yes, the title feels like a nod to 'frontline' action. Hope you enjoy it - it’s a solid addition to the genre!
"A True Story" by Lucian of Samosata While sailing across the Atlantic, he and his friends get swept to the moon and get involved in a war between the moon and sun over possession of Venus. I hate to admit it always loses me when he lists page after page of chimeric creatures that make up the armies. If nothing, the endless army list influenced war gaming. The first place they visit, an island where the women entice men into their embrace only to grow roots into their flesh, appears in one of Drake's novels.
A True Story is a fascinating early work of speculative fiction! Great point about its influence on storytelling and gaming- thanks for sharing!
X Great.. But your audio is awful. plus fix it
Appreciate the feedback! I’ve worked hard to ensure the audio is clear, but I’ll review it again to see if there’s anything I can improve. Thanks for watching!
Holly hell, talk about selling me on a book series in five minutes. Honestly, I was not too interested in this series, mainly because I had never heard of it until I saw a previous video of yours. However, this video sold me on it, just got it on my kindle. Great work with the videos, keep them coming.
Wow, thank you so much! I’m thrilled to hear the video got you interested in Dorsai! and that you’ve already added it to your Kindle - you're in for a great read! It’s such a fascinating series with rich ideas and compelling characters. Let me know what you think once you dive in! And thanks for the encouragement-it really means a lot. More videos are definitely on the way!
Other mentions could have been the (early) Honor Harrington books (David Weber), Falkenberg's Legion (Jerry Pournelle), Northworld (David Drake) and The War in 2020 (Ralph Peters).
Great mentions! All of these are great examples of military sci-fi. The early Honor Harrington books and Falkenberg's Legion could be considered classics by now, and Northworld is a Drake favorite. I haven’t read The War yet, so adding it to my list!
Ever read or seen Fullmetal Alchemist? It's steampunk rather than futuristic, but it's definitely one of the best military scifi creations. Zelazny's excellent first Amber (Nine Princes) cycle was partially about conquering the throne of the primary reality.
Thanks for the suggestion! I haven’t read Fullmetal Alchemist or Amber yet, but they sound fascinating. I’ll add them to my list!
@@BurnEnough I hope you enjoy them. Don't bother with the live action FMA films, but the animated FMA: Conqueror of Shambhalla is a very interesting take on an alternate Weimar Republic, still good but more political than military.
@@ramonmachtesh3035 Thanks for the follow-up! I’ll keep that in mind about the live-action films and look into FMA: Conqueror of Shambhalla. An alternate Weimar Republic sounds like an intriguing twist!
@@BurnEnough It Is! All the characters are there, but it's an alternate universe, so except for Edward, they are all rather different from what they are in the manga/anime.
many are complaining that starship troopers celebrate war, they obviously werent paying any attention. the enders game ending was a total shock. is forever war where he gets released from the military, is a total failure at fitting back into society, fails for years, then gets recalled back into the military because on the front line he had just left yesterday because of time dilation? my favorite space war author currently is moon.
Great points! Starship Troopers is often misunderstood - it’s more about civic duty and responsibility than glorifying war. The ending of Ender’s Game is a masterstroke, and yes, you’re spot on about the time-dilation aspect in Forever War - such a poignant commentary on the alienation of veterans. Scott Moon is a fantastic pick as well!
It is like you read my mind on top five lists. Armor is definitely my favorite and I am so surprised anyone else knows about Dorsai! If there was ever an author that died to young it was John Steakley.
Thank you! I'm glad the list resonated with you. Armor is such a standout, and Dorsai! deserves more recognition - it’s a true gem. Totally agree about John Steakley; his passing was a great loss to the genre.
I met John Steakley once in Dallas through a mutual friend. He was the scion of a major car dealership in Dallas - Steakley Chevrolet. Very nice guy but unfortunately an alcoholic - which is what I believe ultimately killed him.
Superb selections. I've owned multiple copies of each as time and usage wore them out. Another insightful look at the psychology of the soldier is 'Soldier, Ask Not'. Not rife with battle of land, but of mind.
Thank you! I love hearing about books that have been read to the point of replacement - that's the mark of a true classic. Soldier, Ask Not is an excellent recommendation. Its psychological depth and focus on the soldier’s mind add a unique layer to military sci-fi. Appreciate the suggestion!
i have read 3 of the 5 . but that was 40 yrs gone. i thought of them as well written stories. i did not see them as thought provoking, i guess that make me kinda shallow. but i have 1,000's of books from every genre. so for me ,if it does not capture my interest. then on to the next story.
Reading across genres like that sounds amazing! You’ve definitely built up a diverse library! These stories just click differently for each person, and that's what makes reading such a personal journey. Maybe revisiting one of these after 40 years might spark a new perspective!
Pournelle's Jannissaries is great as well. You think these authors will always be with us but......
Absolutely, Janissaries is a fantastic series! These legendary authors won’t be with us forever, but their works will continue to inspire generations.
anything by Jerry Pournelle....timeless stories about soldiers amid the politics of a far flung dying empire...
Jerry Pournelle’s works are indeed timeless. His ability to intertwine the struggles of soldiers with the political complexities of collapsing empires is unparalleled. Definitely a master of the genre!
I haven't read Armor.
Armor is definitely worth checking out! It’s a unique and emotional take on military sci-fi. Let me know what you think if you decide to read it!
I loved "Starship Troopers". It is a shame that the film versions are very disappointing. I always enjoyed the "Warstrider" series by William H. Keith, Jr. They were very entertaining mech unit novels that are much too underrated IMHO.
Totally agree - Starship Troopers deserves so much better than the film adaptations! Thanks for mentioning Warstrider; underrated mech novels like those deserve more attention. I’ll have to revisit that series (it’s been too long)!
@@BurnEnough Thanks for your reply! I enjoyed your discussion of these 5 influential novels. Happy reading! ; )
Lol, thank you all! I was so chuffed to see starship troopers when it came out, and came out of the theater in WTF mode. Since then, I've seen God knows how many other movie nerds gushing over the satiric elements, and themes of fascist stupidity, etc. Looking back, I can see it, and I get where there coming from. But back then, the subtle or not so subtle commentary completely missed me. All I could think the whole movie was "Who TF does <that>......AND THEN YOU DO <THAT>!?!" I much more got the messaging of the book, but felt like the movie was just done by an idiot as a straight war movie. Bad dialog, ridiculous premises, God tier plot armor etc. I've only seen clips of the second and third. Nope. Though I have to say, the animated traitors of Mars wasn't bad. It at least gets closer to the traditional ape armor.
I've read all five and enjoyed them tremendously. While I've reread Starship Troopers the most, Dorsai and the entire Childe Cycle are my favorites from this list. As others have mentioned, Tactics of Mistake is the best of the lot. Forever War stuck with me for a long time after the first read. Powerful. Ender's Game was pretty devastating when you realized what was actually happening. I related to the characters a lot as I used to play "war" when I was between 6 and 9 all the time. I could see myself in their shoes. Armor is brilliant in it's portrayal of real emotions and emotional conflict. Having been through emotional trauma myself I related to Felix quite strongly. An excellent list and thanks for creating it.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It’s amazing how these books resonate in such personal and unique ways. Glad you enjoyed the list! I'll be doing in-depth book review videos for each of these soon (Starship Troopers already out), so stay tuned!
Glad to find your channel, added 2 books for 2025 ! Armor and Dorsai.
Welcome to the channel! Great picks - Armor and Dorsai are must-reads. Hope you'll enjoy them!
Starship Troopers is still required reading at West Point Military Academy, Annapolis Naval Academy, and the US Airforce Academy due to its moral and ethical study on war, and the citizen soldiers duties and responsibilities to the nation, and the body politic.
Absolutely! The fact that Starship Troopers is still required reading at military academies shows its lasting relevance in exploring duty, ethics, and citizenship.
Robert Heinlein was a Navy vet and a patriot, he's probably smiling up there now.
I'll give a shout out to the Red Rising series by Pierce Brown. Most futuristic novels speak of flawed, or "dystopian" societies. But Brown points out the danger that utopia, or "perfect", is literally the enemy of good, too.
Great shoutout to Red Rising! While not purely military sci-fi, its battles and strategies fit the genre. A solid recommendation! Thanks