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Absolutely fascinating 👏 it feels that Bible shows us our past , present and the future in endless riddles, questions and keys.

That's so funny about the airport. When he asked for dreams on Twitter I considered sending a summary of this vivid dream I had about being in an airport.

What a trip! I look forward to reading the book. Dan did a great job in just letting Matthieu speak.

It makes perfect sense Matthieu. I know the feeling.

Matthieu, I wonder if you have Phantastes by George MacDonald.

It might be worth exploring how the washbasin that the priests prepare to enter the tabernacle by washing their hands and feet is made of the gifted/donated mirrors of the israelite women

Matthieu interviews himself basically 😂 But thank you Dan, for letting him speak

1. Stumbling stone as an instrument of death; eg being humiliated 2. Stumbling stone as an instrument of redirection; eg practicing humility 3. Stumbling stone as instrument to mount to higher point; eg being humble 4. Stumbling stone as instrument of glory eg humility.

As a medical practitioner I would disagree that 'sleep' and the processes that take one there is a negative phenomenon. Just as there are different perspectives, depending on the viewer viewing the object, there are different forms of positive elements, wakefulness and sleepiness are both features of the whole rather than one a detraction of the other, they compliment one another. A truly negative phenomenon is seen when a positive phenomenon is directed to a deathly end, eg a medicine used to help an insomniac achieve sleep is instead given in such a large dose that the insomniac never wakes again.

I thoroughly enjoyed the chat, thank you Matthieu, and thank you Dan for creating the space for the thoughts to flow. My own two pennies worth - The lost lock for both Jews and Gentiles is "What does fitting worship of God look like?" Worship in Spirit and Truth, how does this manifest in the soul of the individual and in the heart of a community?

Please tell Matthieu that I will buy and read his book no matter how much of it he gives away ahead of time. His insights are too powerful to absorb all at once anyway, repeated listens and rereads are essential.

resonance with Nietzsche birth of greek tragedy on dreams, structure and freedom

You make perfect sense! I appreciate you shedding light on the meaning of the thread. Please don't stop sharing.

I like how this interview had an additional 45 minutes DLC

Language of Re-creation

I always appreciate your insight Matthieu and I understand you not liking the whole public appearance thing - even video calling and zoom kinda freak me out for some reason. 😅 Thanks for taking the time to do this interview!

This guy is an absolute Gem

Thanks Matthieu, I will be buying many copies of the new book just like I did with the first, and then giving all but one away as gifts. My preference would be one book on dreams and applications of the patterns to biblical stories, as opposed to two separate books. Just my two cents!

If the lock is lost the riddle becomes "What is this key for?" This is also what the Book of Job is about. What is a righteous man for? Once Job is in pain and suffering, he does not know what God's purposes are for him. So Job presents the riddle "Why do the wicked prosper?" which the friends are unable to answer. God comes later and answers, not by answering Job's riddle, but by presenting the forgotten riddle, which Job is the answer to.

While Christianity is on the decline in the west, on the other end of the world many muslims in arab countries have reported being visited by Jesus in their dreams, and many are converting secretly in their hearts due to fear of persecution. Maybe this is a positive aspect of the dream-reality we find ourselves in that Matthieu was talking about

This was so fascinating I was hanging on every word. It`s a privilege to be pulled into a higher dimension and see a completely new vista. Together with your book `the language of creation` i feel we finally can glimpse a chance to be released from blind faith or intellectualism. I cannot express how appreciative I am for this talk. Thank you to you both.

5th time watching.

Very insightful and I especially appreciate how you described what it feels like when new insights are revealed - wise council to step back and breath before expecting others to see what you do. Also very good to remember this when encountering others who seem to be coming from a totally different place. I think sometimes we dismiss people whose worlds we don't inhabit for the same reasons you alluded to about those who appeal to mystery when studying scripture - in addition to arrogance I think it is also “safer” to avoid or count as crazy that which threatens where we call home. May we let go of our fears and desire for control and become like little children so that we might eagerly follow the Holy Spirit into whatever new adventures God has prepared for us. Thank you and may God bless you both for sharing of yourselves in this genuine and meaningful way. 🙏

Love the poisonous fruits! ❤🍄

Looking forward to the book! Your words have changed my life Matthieu

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Watching this bits at a time and letting them marinate. Thank you both.

I want to add that it may be the reality for many that they could disagree with you and that it doesn't matter, because you are a "nobody" but ur a somebody to me. I find it refreshing that u don't talk about Christ. Its a humble and honest approach, that actually helps me understand how significant he is. its, really wonderful..... Thank you

That's a subtle and important point, that Christ is the answer, but people at large have forgotten the true question.

Cain was a "restless" Wanderer in the land of "Nod"...

When Matthieu started to talk about the role of the first born and the second born and of the spare it made me think of something similar I’ve thought about. The concept of fineness and coarseness as it relates to work. There are always people gathering the raw materials who tend to have to do more of the bulk work. Generally this is the more masculine occupations, cutting down trees, gathering minerals, hunting, etc it involves heavy labour, more down to earth thinking and contending with ‘reality’ at the first glance. It’s like the first filter that takes out any large chunks and processes a lot of information with a broad scope. Then there are the people that do the fine work, who only do so on this already processed part of reality. They will truly craft something and often times have to do tedious and time consuming tasks that the first group think is a waste of time. Comparatively it can even be seen as such because the scope is much smaller so if you’re comparing the bulk of the output it can appear that way. However the devil is in the details and the truth is that someone will always need to do that work. Like how someone will always have to do the dishes or do the maintenance or care for children, all things that can sometimes go unnoticed. This is typically more feminine. I noticed this after helping my Dad painting I would often get relegated to do the finer little touch ups and details. Really it’s a privilege but it didn’t feel that way. Cleaning the ‘edges’ and or tapping the ‘borders’ is tedious work and it sometimes doesn’t get noticed especially by a customer but he always appreciated it because he knew how much time it could take up. He was much faster at doing the ‘course’ work, the work that you could see instantly at a glance and say wow you really advanced a lot. It seems to me a natural pattern not only between siblings but in family and society aswell. Societies have to start out focusing on the bigger picture bill processes but as people have children they will naturally diversify themselves and make a space for their finer talents. However it doesn’t seem to me like anyone really chooses either of these paths they are simply how people unfold as societies grow. Anyways to anyone who read this thank you, I wish I would have done a better job explaining it.

I hope you find the question that Christ answers cause I need to know that!

39:16 - this is helping me crack two of the most complicated stories for me: Lot falling asleep and "sleeping" with his daughters and Noah sleeping naked. On another note, my wife and I have been struggling with our 3-year-old who seems to be in a new phase where he is constantly power struggling with us. One thing he's also doing is trying not to sleep. It's definitely obvious now that these two things are connected.

By the way, autumn is a right time for talking about this stuff

Can't wait to read your new book!! Blessings to you!!

You guys, can we get this channel to 1,000 subs? Seems like the least we can do.

2:15:35 "Sleeping is training for the riddle." sleep - death. "Always carrying about in the body and dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body...So then death is working in us, but life in you."

I am going to call my book Phronema Wars based on how The Way became relativized. Thank God for the both of you beloved Pageau bros.

The hammer analogy really hit the nail on the head for me. Really appreciative of Mathhieu's deep perspective of life. It is clear he has devoted great thought and analysis on this matter. Also amazed at all the symbolic meanings scattered in the bible, the world and life itself, now that I'm beginning to see the threads.

I don’t think people understand yet the profundity of what Matthieu is saying. It will take many years but one day the civilizational importance of what he is doing will be recognized.

There is something like a “toxin” that accumulates to produce sleep called adenosine. It accumulates from energy (ATP) expenditure. Caffeine blocks its receptors. In burst doses, it stops the heart.

the "poison that makes you sleep" is called melatonin and it lowers the male sex hormone (testosterone) and raises the female one (estrogen). It also helps to regrow hair, etc. So the analogy by Mr. Pageau is spot on and beautiful.

Super stoked to hear about the upcoming book

Thank you

Whom does the grail serve? Is that a way of asking th3 question?

he articulated what i have only tried to formulate about the fake mysticism of occultists. pageau actually keeps the secret, while they piss it away. anyone who calls himself a mystic and purports to teach mysticism is full of shit.