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Polishing the wall feels to me as the de-crystallising process of one’s inner self. The more we are clear from within, the more we see things as a reflection to our inner clarity. The sages’ piece of art was only a reflection to the very polished clarity of the dervishes wall. FYI - I paused the talk upon hearing the question, as I wanted to attempt to answer myself. :) I loved the story

Y’all really outdid yourselves here! 🔥

About 40 years ago I bought a book whose title was, I think, “The Monism of Ibn al ‘Arabi”. I’m afraid it was over my head, but I feel I owe a debt of gratitude nevertheless to Ibn al ‘Arabi. I think he saved me from becoming a communist. I worked as a phone company installer and joined the union. I was really attracted to the “Militant Action Caucus” because they were a real kick-butt group within the union, so what if they may have been a party front group? I applied for membership and the Militant Action lady came to interview me in my living room. “The Monism of Ibn al ‘Arabi” was sitting on my coffee table. “You’re into religion?” she exclaimed. I answered, “Well, I do think it’s a valid field of enquiry”. She finished her interview and I waited for weeks without hearing from them. One day, I was coming down from a telephone pole and spotted another installer-a member of the Militant Action Caucus. I told him I was waiting to hear back, but wondered if they had decided against letting me become a member. He apologized and said, “See, Howard, you’re a mystic”. I was amused, and maybe even flattered, although I'm maybe really only a mystic wannabe.

Dam musst Qalander musst musst! Salaam beautiful friends❤😊🤗🌹

Frederic Adler? The founder of the Ethical Culture movement?

Only 15 minutes in. Beautiful, Mushtaq!

The Mirror as a symbol for pristine primordial awareness: itself has no distinctive attributes (totally empty) other than its own capacity to hold all phenomena within itself, and its infinite capacity to reflect all creation as it is without imputation of good bad or neutral.

1:26:00 Would one who becomes adept at reading the signs be something like what the Romans called an augur?

Darryl Anka (channeling Bashar) who milions of people follow now in the New Age movement also speaks about the creation renewing itself every moment.

My favourite topic ever

The Zero is a crown, and you all have your hands on it. Once you realize that nothing negates itself into a harmoniously balanced set of opposites, then you can begin to see why it is symbolized as a circle, and then you can start to layer things which correspond to the principle of balanced opposites, and you can see how they actually all perfectly harmonize in spectacular ways. Like the hours of the day, digital roots of fibonacci, the intervals contained in two octaves, the zodiac, the origin of the universe and its eternal self creation is that breathing between hot and cold. I recently uploaded a video which contains a drawing of my understanding of these relationships while I play a song about inheriting the universe. lol But uhh, yeah, its literally what this video is about, and it's true and its full understanding is worthy of some singing and I have often dreamed of festivals to keep it's memory alive within a culture.

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Whenever I listen to an especially well put together piece of music, hear a beautiful quote about the universe, or even hear a deeply profound verse during a Qur’an recitation, I get this sometimes overwhelmingly intense euphoric feeling starting at the top center of my head that radiates outward. Not sure if this is related to the flow state described. If it is, I can relate to forming a tolerance for these states. Sometimes I’ll have to stop listening to a track for a few weeks or even months in order to achieve the same feeling.

I totally agree that most everyone wants to feel special and don’t actually Wish to awake and especially do not want to make the efforts required to awaken. I disagree totally about there not being special groups and societies across history that stand as storehouses of knowledge and schools that keep certain practices and teachings alive. There are men and women that have awakened and live on a higher level than other men. They can actually help ppl. I see no reason to think that G. Didn’t hold this understanding. Bennett obviously believed there were special brotherhoods and you even enumerate a couple of those societies. G. said everything begins with a group and that work outside a group is rare if not impossible. Sure the Sarmoung may be a clever myth but I see no reason why such groups would not exist. You are right in that the esoteric circle of humanity doesn’t have to be in the mountains of Asia. It can be with anyone who can awaken and knows how to awake. And there definitely are secrets and secret teachings and practices handed down and trusted to those who can be trusted and able to receive such teachings. You don’t get to brush away these ideas with one clever video.

Pruning an apple tree is more real and meaningful than all the talk in the world. The act of setting my shears against a branch and snipping feeds me more. The deciding which branch to cut is immediate, visceral. The cold, fresh air against my skin and moving in and out of my lungs brings me to greater consciousness than sitting in any meeting. I am free.

This was such a refreshing talk about a very imporant topic that keeps people small and enslaved. Thank you for liberating me

Must be nice to move so fast that it looks like you are not moving, I would love to learn how to do that.

Thank you friends for the beautiful meeting. The key for me (and as it transpires, the friends in the talk) is to try, to the best of my abilities, through the sharpest of my skills AND with the least of my participation, infuse any performance with the true purpose of Art in general: the updating to the present moment and the deep remembrance of the source and our relation to it. The purpose is the intention. Thank you so much for that remembrance ❤

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Using the “universe is like a video game, God is the lead programmer” metaphor or even the literal concept of a Matryoshka Brain Dyson Sphere From an “energy used”perspective, I would be curious to find out if the force described in this talk generally pushes people towards optimum efficiency when it comes to computing the “code” that is their experience of their life. This force would be things that essentially make AI able to attempt to predict your next move. In the grand scheme of things, predictable movement of individuals could almost certainly work towards netting the system the most surplus energy via manipulatable people. This could be achieved by things such as encouraging habits, oppressive religious beliefs, or even socially engineering certain topics as “taboo”.

The second shock, grace, that you refer to here around 28:00 reminds me of the surge of epiphanies I had following the death of my mother. For a while there it felt like Contemplating her suffering was sort of opening a channel for information to flow into my mind with a laser focus. I totally quit drinking cold turkey shortly before her death (cirrhosis). After she passed I got this urge to attempt to rediscover “belief”. As someone who swore off religion years ago, I never thought I’d see my 31 y/o self sober and reading into the esoteric meanings of verses from the Qur’an (which I recently read and realized how beautiful it is, but that’s a whole other conversation).

Mash'Allah. 💜☝

Another great topic. Catching up from Liverpool, England, UK. Troubled times both sides of The Pond. Allahu Alim.

Ram Das said a lot of people think The Middle Way is The Middle Class Way, in relation to bourgoise Yoga circles. It's ultimately about intention. Rumi said don't fixated on stories from the past tell your own stories. You have to be of your own time, all the people of the past where from their time. The wisdom is Perennial.

I also read the autobiography of Wavy Gravy. He's another inspirational figure as a community artist, Sufi, and activist.

Poetry. The image of a Sudanese woman with her white throbs on top of car reciting Poetry is a image that I will never forget.

I so appreciated the exchange and have long wondered about the Brotherhood's origin. You mentioned a book, "The Source of Light". Could you please provide the author? History of Sufism is of interest. Thank you.

excellent. Mashalla

Humanhood. Great word.

I woukd like to know more about pre Paul Christianity

For those that are curious about the difference between Dari and Farsi...Dari is short for Darbari which means 'of the royal court.' When the Muslim Arabs invaded east they set up kingship in Farsi speaking lands. The Arab rulers had to learn the local language and in doing so inevitably mixed in letters from their own alphabet (like 'Q' which is not in Farsi) and had their own style of pronunciation. Since it was mostly spoken in the royal courts its was called Darbari. Over time it grew to be its own dialect.

The subject matter is awesome, please publish more

I've always regarded the etymology related to the Persian Sar (Chief or Head) and Man (Mind or Consciousness).

So Gurjieff was an intelligence officer?

Everybody feels my barakart. They call me an asshole before they even meet me .

I've been teaching clown for 15 or so years and performing and theatre-ing and I gained a lot of insight from your video. Thank you! I've been feeling a strong pull to make the practice more frequent and visible. I've absorbed the saying that 'clowns emerge in times of crisis' and that has been my experience. Crisis as understood as the turning over, like soil in a garden, exposing darkness to light. The word sacred is so interesting as clown dives into the profane and all the spaces in between. Lots of thoughts. Yes.

In Armenian Sar means mountain and moun means a newly hatched warm. Thus SARaMOUN means the newly hatched warm of the mountains.

The reciprocal maintenance of the universe… man some of these terms you use stop me in my tracks to hear said.

You might be right, Gurdjieff was a looter, and I for one am grateful for it.

Do you have a Discord?

I haven't watched your discussions for quite awhile. That said, some time ago, I asked your opinion of Idries Shah, whose books I devoured when I was in my twenties. You had a less than flattering opinion of him. The older I get, the less bound to any system, tradition or teaching I become, so I don't have a horse in the Idries Shah race anymore. Yet with that, I found his books to be incredibly educational.They still affect my mind in positive ways. But I'm wondering...are there any of your video discussions you can point me to that fully go into Shah and his teachings? I'd love to know more about why you don't appear to regard him in the best light. I'd be very curious about that. I'm aware that a recent book has been published outing Shah and his father as being hucksters for the Sufi Way. Secondly, on a side note, I'm also wondering if you've ever discussed the remarkable scoundrel, Gary Chicoine, who is said to have stepped up as the group's new teacher after Bennett died. For awhile, I was in intense email communication w/ Chicoine before he died. He was quite something. He was undoubtedly hated and vilified in the various Sufi and 4th Way communities online. Maybe it's me being a natural iconoclast, but because he was so shunned, I became that much more interested in him, which is why we eventually made contact. Btw, he once published a hilarious account of how he played a prank on Idries Shah! I may be able to dig it up if you're interested.

1:20:00 for something you could sum up in 5 sentences?

Great talk, thanks! Your channel just randomly popped up in my recommendations. A quick scroll through your available content and I'm immediately intrigued. Looking forward to many future hours of listening. Take care! 😊

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t the Arabic language contain a large amount of words with multiple (sometimes up to 10+) meanings? Sometimes I wonder if that contextual ambiguity was the reason for selecting Arabic as the intended language for delivering the message of the Qur’an.

I guess a part of me was hoping to learn about a group that has an ancient secret regarding the true nature of reality or something. Love that I found your channel. I really appreciate listening to your talks.

I just watched the movie Meeting with remarkable men yesterday and it really made me so curious about this school. Perfect timing❤

Your honesty shines through always Luv this channel

You guys get gold stars . Thank you for these beautiful reminders ❤