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Let's just see how it plays out next season, it will be a big test.

is ptr we wait when goes real on mfg from germany

Every time i see d2 purists praising d2 runes i cant help but imagine if they actually played the game. That system sucks.

While I really love D2's runewords, they just wouldnt fit in D4 and they would invalidate so many items that honestly probably still need to be buffed to even be competitive with even legendaries in the same slot. I initially didnt like D4's system because of my nostalgia for D2's, but I've come around to the concept, I think it just needs to be flesh out more. I'd like to see more than just a "cause" & "effect system, perhaps something that can also modify skills more drastically than just "evade becomes teleport once every 20s" or "use a core skill 20 times & cast warcry". Those abilities are nice, but just super 1 dimensional. Still, nice vid and I mostly agree!

Well I agree it's all boring

runewords werent bad imo, runewords being so fkin strong that you would never think to ever use 90% of the items you have or will ever find made the endgame feel more generic. Wich could be good or bad depending on how deep your investment was. I could finish a best in slot character in a day or two because i didnt had to craft a perfect amulet or find a perfect stated once in a lifetime rare drop. Runewords allowed endgame builds in D2 to be streamlined for anyone with limited amount of time. Good or bad the developers who designed this system did it with clear passion for their craft, unlike we know who...

I have a better solution for people who want d2 runewords: d2 is still there for them to play.

Bro.. You didn't need to burn those runes to make a point. That hurt.

Great video and good points. But, did anybody else feel some pain when Pho put in the jah ist ber in the incorrect way to simply show the stats? In D2, putting in the correct order of like 7 runes was like performing surgery.

We don’t want D2 runewards. We don’t want an item to outclass ALL other items like in D2. D2 snobs needs to take their meds n chill

Warcry and Petrify could have literally no additional affect and i'd still run them over your proposed change though, they're that broken.

If only they had cool affects and changed gameplay, instead we get more damage.

Totally agree with your take on runewords in d2 and d4✌️

All the cry babies who say it should be like d2 should just go play d2.

Sounds reasonable

Bear

Dont call it shako. It is NOT called shako. Shakonis an alternate name used in diablo 2. Harlequin is the og name from diablo ( og)

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Every single class in D4, Tyraels, Tyraels and Tyraels same goes with the aspects. Anyhow, people think you can make BoTD or an Enigma in a weeks time... You can go almost a whole month of acquiring enough items to finally trade for the runes you need to make an enigma or BoTD and good luck making any of those in a months time without trading, my point is you'll still be using unique items as your go to gear to get those high end rune words. These are not rune words in D4, you don't create a unique item from a white item with its own rolls, this is just D4 devs trying to feed on D2 nostalgia to get more people playing D4, it's all just rune words by name and nothing else, if you all hate D2 so much then why get all excited over half ass rune words in the first place. If D4 is a different game then you're admitting its not diablo, D4 doesn't feel like a diablo game at all.

Looking horrible 😅😅

Meh who cares. It's a great pillar for d4. I'm excited

There’s already a rune meta and now that dissolves any rune build diversity. Which is the war cry effect and the petrify effect. So much for build crafting a “new” feature.

Couldn't agree with you more. Thanks for the good video.

I think they could add extra stats from the runes in D4

I agree. Runewords in d2 is the same as sets in d3. They made everything single farm and op. D2 players want paladin with enigma and d3 players want easy street. I've played since diablo 1 so I get both sides. But runewords ruined d2 with its "the only thing to get", same as sets in d3. I believe d4 is stepping in the right direction direction, and as they said, most d2 players are playing d2r so they need to give what the current players want. I believe they'll iterate, just like they did with helltides and now nightmare dungeons, feedback is key

POE 2 releases soon :)

D4 brought back RUNES, not runeWARDS. Anyone who says different is just objectively wrong. Putting runes in gear, doesnt make a runeward. Its like your jah ist ber example no different.

I'm fearful that in D4 these runewords will end up becoming all shout/petrify. I would rather have fewer options overall and more competitive choices than many junk choices and only a few real game changers for builds.

D4bad sorry not sorry. Not a single item is fun interesting or exciting in d4. Plus there is no economy a year later.

Well said. Concisely said. Thank you.

Tyrael's Might go brrrrrrrrrrrr

Keep preachin, Pho! Love your passion & ty 4 not allowing ignorance to overcome the truth. D2 & D4 needed to be differentiated. appreciate it!

Fun and informative!

I totally agree with you here this runeword system in d4 is better for the the long run and make the unique items even better than before and doesnt kill them like it did for diablo 2. W for this video!!!! Anyone who thinks d2 runewords were the best thing ever should just go play diablo 2 and stop complaining about D4... they are not the same game and as a D2 original fan boy, I am glad its not because we played D2 for 20+ years and its time for a change!

this man hit the nail in the head with a nuke!!Enigma ruined any diversity in builds...

is soo ramdon, Ive farming 900 ether and just one stone

Blizzard should notice this video right now! Well done +1sub from me

Well said… besides your pronunciations. Ber is not said like bear. It’s pronounced ‘bur’. And shako is pronounced ‘Shay Ko’, not ‘Shack O’

Totally agree and i still remember how many people were crying when they introduced those runewords in D2. But almost everyone who could aquire those runes used it including myself. I found the chase of getting the right socketable items and runes a nice added component to the game. With D4 this is a fantastic start and im very exited to see whats to come and to use them myself. Hopefully they would add jewels and or unique jewels (mythic jewels…godly) too.

I love D2 but you had a great convincing argument against its runewords. In the current state tho I found a little unimaginative how it worked in the ptr but what you suggested would be totally fine plus unique stats, buffs for every unique combinations.

eat more pho!

GREAT video. Blizzard take note please.

thank you!!!! i hate those d2 snobs that think the d4 ones need to be like the ones in d2. and as someone who played d2 for 20 years i can say that. the d4 ones are still runewords and are still great!

I might be misunderstanding you but did you say at the end there that they could improve the D4 system by having them add an additional special effect when used together? Isn’t that basically the same thing as D2 rune words but instead of adding like 4-6 affixes you would be adding one, without the names attached?

I might be misunderstanding you but did you say at the end there that they could improve the D4 system by having them add an additional special effect when used together? Isn’t that basically the same thing as D2 rune words but instead of adding like 4-6 affixes you would be adding one, without the names attached?

I agree with you.... Sidenote .. in d4 we have an armor that's in every build and it's tyreals lol. It annoys the crap out of me

Wow this is really a good and informative video!! Good job

Yeah I hate how cringe the D2 Hardcore fanbois are. Yeah no shit its not the same its a completely different game 💀Like sure if you don't like it whatever but all they do is shit on D4.

Why on earth do you say "shako" like that?

Once salvaged then you can change the color too, i salvaged one in eternal after a previous season ended and it works for the seasonal realm too