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@Parker-C The Council only recently owns a small (southern) part of the bing, the rest is privately owned but has been used for 50+ years by bikers and riders/walkers. Though not technically legal, the Local police and Council are more concerned with people riding in the industrial estate and roads/canal paths to the bing, rather than in the bing out the way..

I would imagine so, there's a few elec bikes that go there... Plenty trails and climbs etc ...

I've heard they randomly visit, but haven't bumped into them personally. Mainly looking for folk riding in the ind. Est. Stolen bikes etc..

@@freedombehindbars I'm thinking of going up to the bings haven't been before but looks good I normally go to drumclog

Definitely worth a visit, and Saturdays are generally quieter 👍

@@freedombehindbars is it at the industrial estate that you get into the bings

Aye bud , right at the top of the estate. 👍

Just outside of Edinburgh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Gutting, I’m miles away! Looks like a great spot. What coms do you have too?

@@Parker-C Fodsport F8. They're cheap but work fine for what they are...

You can add a handlebar switch... The headlight has high/low beam it's actually wired direct to high beam in factory form. Check the connections at the rear of the bulb 👍 The tail light also has a brake light in it , so you can add in pressure switches if you want brake light aswell.

@@freedombehindbars You got a email bro

@muzza6047 Jason.headshake@outlook.com

@@freedombehindbars Sent you a email bud

Aye, the silent assassin 😅

Thanks bud 👊 If you see us out, wave me down I'll come say hello,.. P.s. as with most things you'll get used to the heights with time, just take it easy to you know the layout well. 🤙

Cheers for watching and taking the time to comment, appreciated 👊

Yes you can ride up there no problem, just don't ride in the industrial estate and you'll be fine. 👍

Hi, what do you mean by 'cards' ?, thanks..

Aye, good for a chat, saves pressing the horn and waving your arms, and can tell your mates to watch out your coming in hot 😅 (Even if your not - watch them panic) 🤣🤣

Hi, it's out the back of Fauldhouse, not Broxburn as mentioned earlier 👍

@@freedombehindbars thanks mate

My mistake, it's out the back of Fauldhouse... Apologies I thought it was my latest vid 🙂

Cheers bud 🤟

I'm the Same, when I'm watching some other folks vid's 🤟😎

Thanks for joining bud... appreciate having you come along 👊

@@freedombehindbars 😁

I don't know of any borders trails myself, but would image there would be some enduro clubs and Facebook groups that may be able to help you out for that area. Google maps (satellite view) is excellent for searching out potential places to ride. 👍

@@freedombehindbars thank you! I’ll check them out! Ride safe and keep the content coming!

Central Scotland.

@@freedombehindbars any spots to share?

The main two are Broxburn Bing/woods and Fauldhouse woods, the rest I wouldn't make public for a number of reasons 👍

You wouldn't be disappointed 😉😁😎

Lots of things to consider, trail speeds, difficulty level, but mostly it's just personal preference.... Want Planted with loads of torque and doing miles go 450... Want lighter feeling 2T with torque get a 300 😎

Thanks man

@@freedombehindbars need to get my skinny ass down there one day 💪

Thanks man 👊 aye you got to love the kybs... I had to go softer on the springs and shift my clickers to the softer side aswell. Spot on now though 😎

No, it's Pumpherston bud, you've probably been there before 😅

@@freedombehindbars ahh I see bud, definitely have get back up there soon hopefully I can remember where the spot is been a while

Get a shot of one if you can, they are a completely different bike 💙

Or as we like to call it "The Annual Purge" 😅 But no, we weren't up that day as it happened 👍

Cheers bud, I'm on a wr450f, like the other one with fluro graphics 😀 Other two mates are on a Beta 350rr and a 390rr 👍😎

Hi, yes I remember 😄 Cheers for the offer, I've now figured out the way you described, the rest of Fauldhouse including the old Nlsqbc track I know pretty well, was just new to the Whitburn side 👍

Yes, I fitted springs for my weight with a slightly reduced oil volume..

@@freedombehindbars What's your weight and what weight springs did you use? Also what weight oil?

I'm 10 stone in gear, and use a 51nm rear spring.. and 4.2nm front springs Always use 5w fork oil and adjust the volume to suit personal preference.

I get that when watching other folks vids, including a couple of your wr ones 🙂

Weight is only an issue when picking a bike up regularly....(Hard Enduro) The Heavier bikes are planted and steer sharp so make good woods/single track bikes, but can do a bit of everything else aswell. Forget the 85's they're made for tracks etc /wide open throttle.. . Lack of bottom end soon become annoying. The wr250f is the all round bike, reliability and performance, don't feel heavy when moving 5mph+, but not as light feeling as 2Ts when crawling.... You should consider a beta X Trainer 300 (7/8ths size bike) slightly lighter and lower than the 4t's, can add RR front pipe and a couple of free mods to make it a weapon... Characteristics of a light 2t, But torque of the bottom like a 4t.....😉 th-cam.com/video/6QEVZLKLjWY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=p9CS9St-MQNCIRKe th-cam.com/video/yxd63AvQZTw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Vv_zTwSKe8oW8Wz-

@@freedombehindbars I'm not sure i can give enough parts for beta or hq or ktm. That's why i was looking for a Yamaha and japanese bike in general. I live in us btw. And 300cc 2 stroke omg is it too powerful for a beginner?😅 Yeah, I've heard about lack of low torque on yz85 (oe kx100/112) but I was told they have it after the power-valve added . Did you try it with valves?

Omg beta is soo good! What about reliability? Cuz wr ppl call apocalypse bikes . They cost a lot to buy , but last forever . And i was told if i wanna ride more than wrench i need wr 250f 😄

There's a 250 as well, but no so powerful with stock exhaust, check them out on YT. You can then add the RR exhaust to make it a wee ripper. Never owned an 85, and wouldn't bother messing with it, would just upgrade to the next level bike.👍

@@freedombehindbars tbh im afraid a heavy bike will break me something when we fall hah. And we will 100% 😅 i don't mind to pick it up. Ah, and the second reason is fun , it's more fun to ride a light weight bike I guess. I have ridden bikes for 10 h only and i remember the small one was more fun. But a 200cc was soo puffy haha

😯 having no luck by the sounds of it ... Upside is once done you'll have a lovely light clutch that will easily make up for the inconvenience 😁

@@freedombehindbars What map are you running yours in though? I have a max advanced timing map that is quite a bit more powerful than stock. I'm starting with 1.5mm washers.

@@6Twisted stock maps as the difference between them is deal for me. Adjusting the mapping has minimal change to power output, (the increments are are fine and range is small- just how it delivers will feel different.) You could fit an exhaust/ power filter kit and map to suit, gaining 5-7 hp as per yz450f Vs Wr. The clutch will have been designed such that it can handle that and more.

@@freedombehindbars Oh there's a huge difference between fully advanced and retarded timing. Fully advanced it power wheelies in 5th, fully retarded and it will barely clutch up in 4th. Anyway I just went and tested with 1.5mm washers. Popped the clutch in 5th with the throttle wide open and no slip with fully advanced timing.

I can imagine ! A couple of times I was wondering if we were just getting in deeper 🙉 .... Got out tho, so all good 😅

Blackridge, west of Armadale...

Hi Bud, No it doesn't in my experience on the 450, it would eventually at some point but a few 1mm washers won't be enough to cause it to slip. I would say the 250's probably have lighter springs to start with and from feedback on wr uk forum, 1x1mm seems to be ideal for them. I use 2x1mm on the 450 for approx 20% lighter... that will probably feel similar to 1 washer on the 250's.

Actually on the bike on the tarmac about 45 mins.... Otherwise it's in a van for convenience ..

That sounds nasty... Years since I'd been there, and first time I've seen the memorial bench... Hope you heal quickly bud and you can get back out riding 🤟👊

Just a thumb title, I did call it forgotten track as I've not been there for about 15 years or so with the minibikes... Was Rob Ord (hopefully got that right, correct me if I'm wrong it's been a while) I believe who owned it, we used to pay a fiver back then 🙂 Honestly thought it hadn't been used for years (by the looks of how grown in it was) and due to lack of access with train station and new house builds close by. We only popped by for a look (curiosity) for about an hour.... Seen 3 other bikes but that was it ... So yes, technically got permission years ago 😅 Hopefully that still counts😯😁

@@freedombehindbars 😂😂tbf I was up a few weeks ago and it doesn't look like it's as busy but the guy the sorts the track is going thru some stuff, and yeah Roy Orr close enough still ownes it but another guy maintaines it normally, and not a dig at all likes if u know it's their go for it was just incase use went again and he nipped over for beer tokens when he here's the bikes 😂😂a boy broke his back and got air lifted out think thats why it's quiter now aswell tbf, they've put signs up at fauldhouse aswell now whitburn will be next no doubt 🤦🏻‍♂️ getting worse for spots

Had a sneaky feeling it was Roy not rob 🙈, good to know it's still his, appreciated. 👍 So other than the maintenance guy it's the same as it used to be, sometimes they come for payment others times they don't 👍. It is a good spot though, just needs some hands with spades to make it fun 😁

@@freedombehindbars aye pretty much man, he comes our wi his mini digger a few times a year and their are spades laying around at the worst bits for rutting 🤦🏻‍♂️😂 all part of it tho

@@unspoiledmonkey1 Good to know, as mentioned we were only in for a wee bit so I didn't notice any of the spades 😅 I might have picked one up otherwise 🙈 just to face a jump or two. Did notice though there's loads of bits around within the trails with potential natural jumps, hips, step ups etc that could be done with just a few spades ... Can't help myself 😅

Aye, roll on summer, when you don't have to spend 2 hours washing stinky bog of your bike 😆 Cheers bud 👊

What a cracking day 😎 Maybe pick a drier week for the next one 🤣

A wee bit south of you, in West Lothian bud.

Aye, the old Nlsqbc track...over Fauldhouse side, in a couple of last years vids, it's got a creater in it now from diggers... Wee tiny track in the fir trees is still there tho (Enduros in their natural habitat) video..🙂

Do people still go there? I’ve not been for a few years now, got quite bad for police when they started the felling

@@dec922 Aye it still gets used now the turbines are up and not so much felling going on.