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Die Halbstarken (The “Half-Strengths”) - Greasers of a Divided Germany | Subculture Shock
Die Halbstarken (half-strong/half-strengths), or well the Halbstarke if you want to anglicize it, were a youth subculture in post-World War Two Germany (both East and West; along with parts of Switzerland and Austria later on*). Inspired by the Americana brought by occupying soldiers, and fuelled by rebellious attitudes at home and in films from abroad, these youths would be comparable to the American greaser or British Ted. Lasting from an unspecified period somewhere in the late 40s/early 50s up until their fading away sometime in the 1960s to other countercultural movements.
So who exactly were they? Well, my rusty B-level German language skills built by Rammstein, Neue Deutsche Welle and a bachelor's on the language and culture itself have made it a bit hard to translate. Luckily, with a few seconds set aside from some oddly-situated jokes, there's an answer for that and more in this episode of Subculture Shock.
Don't mind the Wolfenstein music, for some reason TH-cam and other mediums do not have much for 50s (West) German music outside of classic schlager from that decade or stuff from the 1960s; not much for 50s rock, sadly, but Germany has made up for that gap since the 60s.
*We'll probably be covering the Swiss and Austrians as different groups in some video or another, both because of differing decades and parent cultures. We also threw in a handful of Swiss Halbstarken photos for some flavor; they're easy to spot, don't worry.
Disclaimer (because one isn't enough): We are not a group of professional researchers, at best we're people interested in the world around them and perpetual college students. We encourage all out viewers to use these videos as a stepping-stone to introduce themselves to whatever subculture the video above covers.
Sources: docs.google.com/document/d/1hzGcuVgQ3fzLP8X8uWXbFhU0ucWW0rV2Vidy5Lu06hY/edit?usp=sharing
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Unilalianism (Part 2) - America's Answer to Situationists | Subculture Shock
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Unilalianism is an underground satirical art and aesthetical movement from Puget Sound region of Washington - with roots in Oakland, CA and across the endless stretches of highway from coast to coast - created by three brothers in the late 2010s. The movement itself is comparable to the French Situationist International, just with a lot more postmodern and psychedelic influences; in one way to ...
Unilalianism (Part 1) - One Language to Rule Them All | Subculture Shock
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Well this is a bit awkward.... Unilalianism, the avant-garde arts movement from the Seattle area was mistaken by yours truly for meaning a literal "one-tongue" subculture; So where else to look but the somehow connected ideas of constructed languages and nativist policies! Yeah, this was a stretch, even for us. So to celebrate a belated Esperanto Day, we're going to talk about *both* these conl...
The Teds - Bearing it All for the World to See | Subculture Shock
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The Teddy Boys, or Teds for short, were a British subculture that existed from the early 1950s to the 60s/70s depending on if you want to count a revival or two. Outside of a few later revivals decades later, these lads would cement themselves as a quintessential staple for the working-class of that decade; as well as influencing rock fashions for a few years down the line. Disclaimer (because ...
Hepcats (and Hipsters) - Pre-Nuclear Cool | Subculture Shock
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The hepcats, a subculture that would birth the hipster of the 1940s, were a group associated with jazz, zoot suits, and jive talking. Their influence would be felt over the course of the two decades following the Harlem Renaissance, and holding as a mainstay of the emulation and cultural diffusion of minority groups into American popular culture. So much so that you can't talk about one without...
The Directioners - One Fandom, One Direction | Subculture Shock
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Once being one of (if not the) largest musical fandoms in the world, the Directioners (of One Direction fame) amassed a count of nearly twenty-five million members. Over the five year run of the band, they were there - beside them on both social media and in concert - supporting the members of One Direction as an unbridled force of feverous fandom. As to why all the popularity, well the appeal ...
Radical Honesty - Handling the Truth | Subculture Shock
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The Radical Honesty movement is a somewhat recent subculture, emerging in the mid 1990s thanks to the efforts of psychotherapist Brad Blanton. The movement seeks to improve peoples' (and others') lives through having them only say the truth and nothing but it. There have been claims raised by former members of the group's cult-like behavior - like with a lot of self-help groups - but such claim...
The Stilyagi - Hipsters of the Iron Curtain | Subculture Shock
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The Stilyagi, literally translating as "Style Hunters", were a subculture in the Soviet Union around the late 1940s to 1950s(/60s depending on who you ask). Known for their outlandish appearances on par with the American hipsters of the same era, these youths were seen as a threat to the Soviet way of living through just wanting to dress cool and listen to jazz or rock. Their influence, and int...
Channel Update (April [Fools] 2024)
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While we don't usually do these kinds of videos, I thought it would be important to put what I could in video format instead of a community post. But going forward with this channel we will be focusing more on content that rewards our viewers' patience instead of having them skip through parts of a video for instant dopamine. The actual update stuff is in the video - but for a little hint... we...
Gopniks - *Hardbass Intensifies* | Subculture Shock
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The Gopnik, a product of the death of the USSR. Coming from more criminal origins into the meme we know it as today. So who exactly are these guys and why does every source west of Poland only talk about their fashion? That and more in this episode of Subculture Shock. Disclaimer (because one isn't enough): We are not a group of professional researchers, at best we're people interested in the w...
Scouting (Youth Movement) - Searching for a Place in Nature | Subculture Shock
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The Scouting Movement, or scouting for short, is a term given to youth groups who brave the natural world around them to better themselves through learning. Surprisingly the movement is relatively recent, coming about in the early 1900s. But even at 117 years old, there's a lot of stuff to cover - be it controversy or insight. So let's do as many scouts and guides do and head out on a nature ex...
Ufology and UFO Culture | Subculture Shock
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Humanity has always had some form of interest in space. It only makes sense that we think whatever's out there in the void has an interest in us too. From organizations wanting to know if there's more than rocks and gasses out there to full-blown religious movements worshipping little green men in spacesuits, here's a look at the subculture(s) that formed around Unidentified Flying Objects. *Wh...
Cryptozoology & The Cryptid Community | Subculture Shock
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Cryptozoology is the study of creatures presumed to exist. From Bigfoot to Mothman, the Loch Ness Monster to Mokele Mbembe, cryptozoologists go out into the world and try and prove their existence in a form of zoology. However, the issue of pseudoscience rears its head too often with the subculture. All that and more in this episode of Subculture Shock. Disclaimer (because one isn't enough): We...
Subculture Shock Season 2 Trailer
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Oh no! It's back and weirder than last year! Don't mind the title card, we threw it together in about an hour while the video rendered. Season should be coming out in Q1 2024 unless unforeseen events happen, see you then. Trailer music should be linked thanks to content ID system (and a free copyright claim on my side that doesn't affect the $0 in ad revenue we make)
Got bored working on some season 2 research. Season 2 coming next year, this is how I decompress
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Got bored working on some season 2 research. Season 2 coming next year, this is how I decompress
Football Casuals - Not So Casually Explained | Subculture Shock
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Football Casuals - Not So Casually Explained | Subculture Shock
High Culture - Highway Snobbery | Subculture Shock
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High Culture - Highway Snobbery | Subculture Shock
Jocks | Subculture Shock
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Jocks | Subculture Shock
Football (Soccer) Hooligans | Subculture Shock
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Football (Soccer) Hooligans | Subculture Shock
Straight Edge - Rebelling Against Punk | Subculture Shock
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Straight Edge - Rebelling Against Punk | Subculture Shock
Peckerwood (Prison Gang Subculture) | Subculture Shock
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Peckerwood (Prison Gang Subculture) | Subculture Shock
Femboys | Subculture Shock
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Femboys | Subculture Shock
Cottagecore - Gemütlichkeit Incarnate | Subculture Shock
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Cottagecore - Gemütlichkeit Incarnate | Subculture Shock
Teenyboppers - Smells Like Teen Fandom | Subculture Shock
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Teenyboppers - Smells Like Teen Fandom | Subculture Shock
KPOP (Part 2) - Fans, Stans, and the Industry Man | Subculture Shock
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KPOP (Part 2) - Fans, Stans, and the Industry Man | Subculture Shock
KPOP (Part 1) - Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Wave | Subculture Shock
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KPOP (Part 1) - Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Wave | Subculture Shock
Wikipedians - The Free Subculturepedia | Subculture Shock
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Wikipedians - The Free Subculturepedia | Subculture Shock
Military Brats - Live and Let (Semper) Fi | Subculture Shock
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Military Brats - Live and Let (Semper) Fi | Subculture Shock
Bird Watchers (Birding) - I Always Feel Like Somebirdy's Watching Me | Subculture Shock
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Bird Watchers (Birding) - I Always Feel Like Somebirdy's Watching Me | Subculture Shock

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  • @teHindy
    @teHindy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    used this video to do a history assignment about culture. Thanks and greetings from a first year student in Finland!

  • @Thepersonthatasked
    @Thepersonthatasked 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vb is worse than 4x gold

  • @Imateddyboy23
    @Imateddyboy23 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never suede shoes,Oxfords with hard toe caps,Crepers were 70s ,hair wasn’t gelled it was brill cream,u show bootlace ties in the 50s it was slim Jims with horizontal stripes or mavericks,the jackets are called Drapes and Bill Haley came to the teds not boogie Woogie

  • @toofknOp
    @toofknOp หลายเดือนก่อน

    wait i thought he has 6m subs or sooo... extremely underrated youtube channel, if you have ever seen one lol

  • @JosipRadnik1
    @JosipRadnik1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Halbstaaark - oh Baby, Baby Halbstaaark - Halbstark nennt man Teeen - ouououou 😃 Im always singing this tune when I tuck along on my Royal Enfield Bullet 😎

  • @chauve_vif
    @chauve_vif หลายเดือนก่อน

    A competent leftist politician would have explained to those men that they should unionise for better wages to buy more jeans

  • @OrthodoxFreiheit
    @OrthodoxFreiheit หลายเดือนก่อน

    I should note this before any comments pop up, but searching for free, genuine, photos of German Halbstarken from the time period is harder than you think. So, there's going to be a mix of contemporary Amis and Brits, 60s/70s Swiss, and a lot taken from film. Thanks for understanding, and apologies for the lack of variety this episode.

  • @TheMethZuckerberg
    @TheMethZuckerberg หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:06 least angry German speaker

  • @chrishammer4749
    @chrishammer4749 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Commenting for the algorithm. Would like to see more 👍

  • @BBRocker75
    @BBRocker75 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Desde Colombia, Sur América: ¡EXCELENTE CANAL, Y UN CONTENIDO DE GRAN CALIDAD! Estoy haciendo maratón de todos sus vídeo. Your english speech is clear. I can understand all. My respect!

  • @OldAgeTeddyboy
    @OldAgeTeddyboy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are still many Teds about, not only the girls but the Teddy Boys as well, and how do i know this?, because I'm a Teddy Boy and have been since 1975, in fact the entire scene today is made up mostly of Teds from the 70s and 80s. The scene may well have come about by accident, tailors at the end of the war were making de-mob suits for returning soldiers, the Saville Row tailors wanted to make something different, so looked towards the Edwardian era, they designed the Jacket, or as we know it today a Drape jacket that was a one piece back not taken in at the waist. The soldiers didn't like them and didn't want them, these tailors were left with all these suits and didn't know what to do with them, in the end they sold them on to other tailors who saw a market for teens and that's what they did, and the teens back then loved them. Time period for this was the late 40s and not the 50s, although they became more popular in the 50s, and they were not called Teds to start with, they were known as Edwardians, it wasn't long before they formed gangs and fought each other, there was always trouble, then as new migrants from Jamaica arrived these Edwardians turned their attention to them, they caused the race riots in noting hill, and these Edwardians were seen roaming the streets looking for them. In 1953 one of the papers decided to try and humiliate the Edwardians by calling them Teddy Boys, well they took this insult and wore it like a badge of honor and so was born the Teds, the music they listened to was jazz and big bands, Rock`n`roll wasn't about, but when it did hit the shores of England the Teds made it their own, and its been like this ever since, there are a handful of these Teds from the 50s, but the scene today is mostly 70s and 80s Teds. And although we are older we are still Teds, we are also parents and Grandparents, all the trouble from the 70s is gone, yes for those who know about us we had our own trouble with punks and skinheads, and most weekends there was trouble up and down the country. We also made the old artists from the 50s popular again, and we saw Bill Haley, Chuck berry, fats Domino, the Everly brothers and so many more artists from the 50s tour England and the rest of the UK, many are no longer with us today, being a Ted today is just as much fun as it was back in the day.. Most Teds considered glam rock as pop music, this is where the weekend Teds came along, the plastics or posers as we called them, when punk came along they said they were going to wipe Teds out, well they tried, and failed, but for the Saville road tailors its doubtful there would have been any Teds, but consider this for a while, the 50s Teds only lasted a short while, then they got married gave up their drapes and that was that. Then in the early 70s Rock`n`Roll became popular and a new generation of Teds came along, there were still a few Teds from the 50s and 60s, they also came back, but it was the 70s and 80s Teds that kept the subculture alive, even to this day, we have been Teds for 50+ yrs, that's true dedication for you, we adopted a few things like more velvet on our Drapes, full roll collars, velvet cuffs and pockets, and unlike the 50s teds, we were not racists, there were Teds of all different nationalities, we didn't see color, we saw a Ted. Today there are Teds all over Europe, America, Japan, this is something else we have given the world, if you want to know about the Ted subculture, don't guess or make up your own stories ask a living breathing Ted, for us its a lifestyle choice, we live and breath it every day.. Instead of winging it or copy and pasting bits you find online, ask a Ted, there are many about...

  • @TRUMP20Z4
    @TRUMP20Z4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we dont drink fosters like we dont eat shrimp.

  • @DoumanAsh
    @DoumanAsh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If only we could have good old imperialism...

  • @L.K.Goddess
    @L.K.Goddess 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Instant sub! Love your storytelling flow and entertaining editing. Looking forward to watching more of your content!

  • @antoniapatzak
    @antoniapatzak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s a great video don’t stop posting !! U will soon hit a lot of views, I’m sure :)

  • @codycurtin2295
    @codycurtin2295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wake up babe the algorithm just blessed us new fire TH-camr dropped on the feed

  • @nastibucket8252
    @nastibucket8252 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such a specific topic. It absolutely scratches the itch in my brain

  • @Jackal_McCackle
    @Jackal_McCackle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro is definition of a gem going under the radar

  • @jacobwolfe6288
    @jacobwolfe6288 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, and the effort in presentation is noticeable! I remember when I was young and interested in learning Esperanto just out of curiosity, when the history behind it is honestly much more interesting than the language itself

  • @TheMethZuckerberg
    @TheMethZuckerberg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nugget biscuit nugget in a biscuit

  • @TheMethZuckerberg
    @TheMethZuckerberg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 views in 6 minutes, my man really fell off -Bot

  • @duncanward1718
    @duncanward1718 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot that as well as having to endure post war austerity and then finding themselves in a boom the teenagers of the 50's had survived WWII and it's bombing. They weren't just rebellious kids, they were child veterans of a war with all the psychological cost that implies.

  • @pauliesk.7102
    @pauliesk.7102 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The big difference is that the Teds (and later the Mods) had a great sense of style. The Chavs didn't. Great film mate: really interesting.

  • @2011Matz
    @2011Matz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beginning with musicians in the early Swing Era of the 1930s, the term "Gate" was used to describe those who dug that music. They would address each other as Gate. (listen to Stuff Smith's records) "Don't be late, Gate." I would posit that this evolved through alliteration into "Gator." Later Gator, as a goodbye, and with people who grew up in the 1940s like Bill Haley. "See you later, Alligator."

  • @TheMethZuckerberg
    @TheMethZuckerberg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite Ted is Ted Kaczynski. He sent me presents in the mail a few years ago. Very nice guy.😊

    • @TheMethZuckerberg
      @TheMethZuckerberg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am a bot, fuck you youtube

    • @TheMethZuckerberg
      @TheMethZuckerberg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      001011011101010010101100001010

  • @Aercadian
    @Aercadian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will watch this when Ill have stamina to follow your fast talking and poor sound mixing because the topic is cool and pics awesome.

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your feedback! Good to hear you are really itching to watch a video from a microchannel about jazz culture from a near-century ago TH-cam has features for you to watch these videos muted with subtitles or play at a reduced speed; you can also skip everything up until after the title sequence (around 1:45 give or take) if loud noises aren't your thing :) - A redneck with livestock auctioneer training and some graduate-level education *Regular audio guy is on vacation til the 19th; he probably won't come back out of spite now (verdammte Deutsche).

    • @harryblack5041
      @harryblack5041 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Defiinately. Delivery is too fast, I can't read the captions. As Cabel Calloway asked: Are you hep to the jive....

    • @Aercadian
      @Aercadian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OrthodoxFreiheit Using a headset reduced 80% of my issues. Good content, regards from Poland!

  • @muhammadariff5767
    @muhammadariff5767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video. I don't think Less Than Jake is an emo band though. They are more Ska.

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They indeed aren't, they're a pop and skate punk group (both mingle with emo). We threw it into the pop-punk/corporate emo segment because the audio guy thought the vibes fit; and I don't argue with the guy who makes me sound cool. *Not to mention I like their ska albums

  • @bassbich
    @bassbich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn’t know that I needed this🫶

  • @bassbich
    @bassbich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!

  • @TheMethZuckerberg
    @TheMethZuckerberg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I misread this, I thought I was getting the pep boys. My car needs work, it runs on crystals and squirrels. Also I too hear the voices.

  • @ackerjawaka1966
    @ackerjawaka1966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked the emo hairstyle cos it was cheap apparently it cuts itself 😂😂

  • @BrendanFraiser
    @BrendanFraiser 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the love of all things beautiful, keep this under the radar.

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, given this is an obscure* channel, and this video isn't about football casuals (in the context of sheer viewership), it will be! *Unless the all-powerful algorithm decides otherwise a few years later to both our chagrins

  • @HistoricaHungarica
    @HistoricaHungarica 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:46 that, my friend, is a sonic masterpiece set to a visual artpiece. Also: Sweet Like Chocolate came out the same year as the Matrix movie. Just let that sink in.

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed, each frame should be in a museum. Music videos for eurodance, eurobeat, and everything else alongside those genres are some of the best time capsules for the years around the turn of the millenia - mostly because of their tech limitations *The sink doesn't want to come in, it keeps raving about the y2k bug to some Captain Jack tunes; will try letting it in tomorrow

  • @bubblysquidd4671
    @bubblysquidd4671 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TITLE FIGHT PIC AT 4:05

  • @de3dbeaT
    @de3dbeaT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love anything that involves emo. 🖤

  • @JuraGlo
    @JuraGlo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ha! Cool video. I'm referenced, thanks. I'd like to suggest to include John Hunter's PhD work that might explain why 90% of participants after such intense trainings report life-changing impact. Also to check whether it is legal in the state of Virginia to call yourself a psychotherapist when you don't have a license. Brad doesn't. Also, there is an interesting read about the Human Potential Movement (HPM) from which Brad developed RH that described Fritz Perls behavior and his legacy that can still be seen in these groups nowadays. Enjoy!

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are literally the first person we have referenced to watch our content (to my knowledge) and it feels like an honor to actually get feedback from a source. Thank you! I'll pass along what all was said to Scott (who wrote 99% of this episode) if he hasn't seen this comment already, and will update our sources document to include Hunter's work and some stuff on the HPM.

  • @squib3235
    @squib3235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    holy fuck this dude deserves more subs, the video is so well edited and put together🙏

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Editing always seems to be a strong point for the channel, and we hope to slowly bring the rest (writing and voice audio) up alongside it as we grow.

  • @dwightbvg
    @dwightbvg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as an elder emo, I'd loved to hear more about post 2010 emo culture and its effect on the mainstream than another history lesson that's been told so many times.

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the feedback! We're working on a video on the scene subculture within the next season or two, so we'll probably throw post-2010s/boom/collapse emo in there as either a segment or footnote since scene had an effect on emo culture's popular image of being Hot Topic kids in neon. This episode's script was written for the first season, meaning not working with more contemporary stuff wasn't a priority in the writing team's situated knowledges; luckily we've gotten a lot better (and are still trying to improve) over the course of a year! If you have any recommendations on where to start (academically or just some musical/fan-based recs), feel free to comment them here or shoot us some links on this channel's socials.

  • @2D.is.anxious
    @2D.is.anxious 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video! i was into the emo scene when i was a preteen

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! A few friends of the team and myself were in the same boat - something about emo being that support for angsty (pre-)teens was always the common denominator. Happy to see that there's always still a community around genres the mainstream keeps thinking are dead (including a portion of this here comments section!).

  • @killerqueen1115
    @killerqueen1115 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thank you for all the effort you put into this. I also really like the mood you set in the video, and how well the background music always matches you talking but never overpowers it

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the feedback! (a bit of behind the scenes) We usually start with finding audio that fits the context of whatever is being said; it also pays to have a soft-spoken customer service voice mixed with an ear for tone on our editing team :)

  • @manicpepsicola3431
    @manicpepsicola3431 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video!

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

  • @chauve_vif
    @chauve_vif 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone activate the algorythme boost that our man desserves

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks guy from the FIRE video comments, happy to see you're still watching and have worked your magic

  • @TheMethZuckerberg
    @TheMethZuckerberg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish I had fans who baked me cookies

  • @weirdo_1180
    @weirdo_1180 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Society started its downfall when it started worshipping celebrities and putting them in higher regard than they should be. They are just randos whose job it is to entertain. They are not Gods and are nothing more than rich jesters who are so out of touch with reality that it is comical. We need to come to our senses and focus on more important things.

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can agree with this in principle - I mean, worshipping people who just stand around and are only famous because they're famous is one of society's greatest pitfalls (and will prove to be a nail in the coffin in the long run). Wherein we are looking up to people who do nothing more than react to videos in the corner of our screens; pretend to be an NPC for money; or were related to someone who actually meant something in a very disturbing case of "wait, they're related?". Look at stuff on TLC, or any reality(/brainrot) TV programme, and you see people who have or will become famous for the most inane of things. But where my own situated view on this differs is that there are actually talented people who need to be celebrated (the genuinely creative types, scientists, etc.) and culture does just that. Fandom itself is an example of both: with an example of merited celebrity being this very video talking about people who celebrated the talents of five young men (who were lucky enough to all be selected for a group performance). Based mostly on their singing skills and potential to perform to a standard worthy of the mainstream; converse to groups who form around people who either react in front of a camera with no constructive (or destructive) input whatsoever or (again) are only known because they were born into it (granted, meme culture does change the last one up with some becoming [in/]famous for one little thing here or there that didn't help society as a whole - but making someone laugh even for a minute could be seen as helping if you want to accentuate the positive). The positive effect of the celebrity is they can help give role models to those who need them through exhibiting either positive or culturally acceptable traits (i.e. a famous actor who helps out with disaster relief in their home town, the singer who willing signs up for the war effort to support the homeland (or gratefully accepts conscription; it depends on the country), or the philanthropist author who gives 90% of their books' profits to support struggling families). Taking it a bit further, religion is one of the few original cases of celebrity - and seeing as humanity has shifted more towards secular and atheistic spaces, which might just be a logical cultural jump in reverence towards something - which, along with mythology and folklore, is quintessentially the baseline for celebrity culture: humanity/cultures celebrating the actions or effect(s) of a particular individual. If we want to get more post-modern, and I don't have the brainpower to do that half the time, people like French philosopher Roland Barthes have come up with more modern mythologies (literally a Barthes book) about human culture and enshrining things in higher stratum; it's a good read, would recommend the chapters "The World of Wrestling", "The Brain of Einstein", and either "The Jet-Man" or "Steak and Chips". But what the book got at is that humanity will have a way to hold something up and go "This. This is something I like and feel like it should be noticed more." - kind of how we get fandoms around arts and sports - it's the sort of championing of individual tastes that draws others towards a particular thing; I mean just look at whatever sports team is near you - its fans are celebrating the collective efforts of the players in both achieving feats of physical aptitude and representing the place they play (either poorly or amazingly depending on who wins that game) and forming a community around them that supersedes any previous differences. We could also go back to the great blend of myth and reality found in a lot of religions: where it doesn't matter where one's path has taken them - so long as whoever it is shares the same values taught by and love towards that common denominator, they are part of that second family that is the community. We have a video on high culture that (somewhat, but not exclusively) helps convey the "out of touch" part of celebrity/higher economic class culture; as they isolate themselves into this subculture out of realizing they can no longer relate to the "common rabble" - only for this insular community to birth hundreds (if not thousands) of people who think that a $500 watch is pocket change while college grads and retirees are struggling to pay for rent and food on their own. *Interestingly enough, we had a video on celebrity culture planned for the 2023 production run, but it was cut for running over the 30 minute mark and reading more like several different people wrote it awkwardly in a darkroom on black paper with invisible ink. ---------- Apologies for this book of a comment, but what you have written is pretty thought-provoking and could serve as a thesis statement for a degree (or the very least a term paper). Thank you for that, it's always good to look away from the vacuum of archived papers and sites full of endless (sometimes useless) information to see the thoughts of the here-and-now from people in real time. ---------- TL;DR /in plain English: I agree we shouldn't idolize (for lack of a better word) celebrities who do nothing aside from existing, but draw the line in a handful of places regarding the idea (and cultural promotion) of celebrity itself. Everything is celebrity culture in one form or another if you realize the parameters; celebrities who are famous for doing nothing should not be celebrated, but people who have contributed something remarkable (usually positive) should at least deserve what spotlight is cast on them; celebrity culture has existed in one form or another since humanity began.

  • @charmelisk
    @charmelisk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    me clinging to every word as if i didnt live through it... shocked by some of the lore he was able to dig up too

    • @OrthodoxFreiheit
      @OrthodoxFreiheit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, fan wikis are an amazing source of this stuff. Thanks for noticing! All I can really hope for now is that this video at least met expectations of the wider fandom.