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Great Outdoors Solar
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We’re RV solar installers offering complete or partial solar system installations on any recreational vehicle. All of our RV solar systems provide plenty of energy to run normal 12V DC electronics (lights, vent fans, USB outlets, etc.) and small 120V AC electronics (phones, laptops, TVs, etc.) for a very long time, as well as moderate use of larger appliances (air conditioners, microwaves, hair dryers, etc.). The larger your system’s battery bank, the more power you’ll have to use. The more solar you have, the faster you can recharge your battery bank!
Mobile RV Solar Installation with GREAT OUTDOORS SOLAR!
We now offer professional mobile RV Solar installation services for your fifth wheel, travel trailer, motorhome, etc. If you're looking for a professional RV solar system to be installed in your RV, look not further than Great Outdoors Solar.
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Using a Ford Truck as a Generator | BRINKLEY MODEL Z 3400 SOLAR TOUR
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New 2024 Brinkley Model Z 3400 Luxury RV Solar Tour featuring our 1370W Brinkley Model Z Solar Package and uses a Victron Quattro instead of an Orion XS 50A DC-DC Charger to take advantage of the trucks onboard factory inverter. *CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE FOR MORE INFO:* www.greatoutdoorssolar.com/ greatoutdoorssolar.com/brinkley-model-z-solar-system-packages/ #brinkley #rvlife #solar
BRINKLEY MODEL G RV SOLAR TOUR | Model G 3500 Fifth Wheel | Dual Victron Inverter Solar System
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This sleek Brinkley Model G 3500 toy hauler slid out of our shop with 2800 watts of solar, 4800W continuous inverter power, and over 1,200 amp hours of lithium battery power. With two powerful inverters, this rig can boondock off-grid in comfort and style. We emulated the factory finishes throughout our install to maintain the high-end standards Brinkley sets. *Brinkley Model Z Packages* greato...
MASSIVE SOLAR SYSTEM ON GRAND DESIGN RV FIFTH WHEEL
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New 2023 Grand Design RV Momentum 410TH RV Solar Tour On top of our 2000W package, this client requested a SECOND Victron 12/3000 Multiplus 2x120 Hybrid Inverter Charger. An ADDITIONAL 400 watts of solar panels, plus an EXTRA 412 amp hours of lithium batteries. This system is ready to take him and his family off-grid indefinitely! CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE FOR MORE INFO: www.greatoutdoorssolar.com/...
BRINKLEY SOLAR BUILD TOUR!
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New 2023 Brinkley Model Z 3100 Luxury RV Solar Tour featuring our 50 amp tow-able 1000 watt Solar Package which comes with: 1000 watts of Rich Solar Panels 618 amp hours of heated & blue-tooth SOK lithium batteries Victron Hybrid 12/3000 Inverter Charger Victron Touch 50 & Cerbo GX Victron MPPT Solar Charge Controller Victron Smart Shunt Battery Monitor All labor, wire, fuses, sealant, etc for ...
How much weight did this add to the rv overall. Especially on the front compartment.
Great info guys. I have a question …. When you removed the factory inverter. Did you just splice those in and out romex wires together with an 110v outlet in the basement?
Any reason y’all don’t carry battle born batteries?
Two questions… I noticed the dual transfer switches. with so much room in the bay, do you ever consider upgrading to the Quattro-II which has all that built in? Also, on a system this size would you not ever consider stepping up to 48v batteries to reduce size and weight?
Loved the clean look of the install.
There is a huge issue with using the truck as a generator, at least with a diesel anyway. One of the worst things you can do to a diesel pick up that is emissions compliant is to idle it… So the only time this would be useful would be when they are driving from point A to point B. I don’t think it was not worth doing, but they certainly never want to be using a diesel truck in place of an inexpensive, portable generator at a campground site. That is just a recipe for blocking up the EGR system and the DPF on that truck. In fact, my GMC 2500 shuts off after about 15 minutes of idle time to prevent this kind of issue.
The best solution would be to get a propane conversion kit for one of the Honda 2000s or one of the similar models from another manufacturer. That’s already running on propane and then you could install it, and that same compartment with the battery system, since those are sealed, lithium, batteries… you would simply need to put an exhaust connection to the outside, and a fresh air intake pipe. But at that point, you will be able to turn the generator on and off remotely because the Hondas can be made capable for remote start and it could run on your existing propane tanks.
Great video . . thanks for making it . . I certainly can tell you've been doing this for a while !!!
I keep going over the Multiplus II installation manual over and over again. I finally called Victron customer service, and they said I could mount the Inverter Horizontally, but only on a vertical wall. I wish they had written that more clearly in the manual. There is still room in our Brinkley to do it that way, but jeez why muddy the water with lack of clarity? We camp host in Colorado for 6 months at 8,500' and have to be there on May 1st or we'd make the trip over from Cypress Campground to make my 4-month install only a couple of weeks, LOL. Cheers, David & Sheila
That system although pretty is very weak for a Brinkley. Using two converters it should be a 24 volt system. You are also overcharging the customer for the solar controllers, could have went cheaper Victron solar controllers. Using series / parallel connections. Those batteries are old chemistry with weak BMS's. There are many more more powerful batteries. Like for instance, four Epoch 460 amp hour batteries would be a system‼️
Please don’t tell me you grounded everything there bellow on that accessory metal?!?!?!!
Will reduce the life of the alternator, pulling 120 DC amps while connected. I use a BIM that only charges for 15 minutes and take a break for 20 minutes. I have install over 50 of them and seems to work real well.
BIM ?? Please elaborate. Thanks !
love it!! now I need a new truck with an inverter.. hahaah thanks for the insight. I had no choice to use the dc 2 dc 30. It was the only choice when I built my system 3 years ago. But I love your idea!!! I though of using my small 2k gen and put it bed of the truck and run that.. but so far just with solar and dc 2 dc and we r good
Love the install. Been a subscriber since your start. We have noticed a lot of the new campers that are “inverter prepped” have a small sheet of plywood mounted in the ceiling of the pass through to mount an inverter. However, Victron says in their inverter manual that you can mount that inverter in any way except upside down like you did in this video. Do you think the inverter will be ok in that mounting configuration? (Writing this from John Pennecamp SP btw).
Welp, i know where IM gonna be headed. Lol i plan to store mine(when i buy) just south of Atlanta, north of macon!
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How many yrs well the battery last
where did you mount the Cerbo display on this rig? I have a Brinkley G and I am not sure where to mount the monitor?
Beautiful system y'all! Hope you are safe from Hurricane Helene
Fantastic video, Great Outdoor Solar. Looking forward to your next upload from you. I hit the thumbs up button on your content. Keep up the amazing work! It's great to see the expansion into mobile installations. How do you ensure quality control during these mobile installs, especially when working at different locations?
Welcome BJ. Thank you for your service!
Thanks for watching!
I just wanted to say my Brinkley Z3400 was the first mobile install for BJ. I must say that Great Outdoors Solar and BJ did a great job from start to finish. I had them ship the equipment to a friend’s house in Washington and we left Vegas to meet BJ there for the install. It took 4 days for the install with no issues. We have been boondocking ever since and it has been working great. I highly recommend GSO and BJ for your solar install. Don and Kim Young
Thanks yall and thank you again for the kind words! Safe travels and happy camping! -Tom
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That was helpful. Have you found the inverter in ram trucks is reliable?
We haven't connected to one, but other commenters are saying they only have 400w inverters, which would be too small. The Multiplus can be limited down to only pull ~9 amps @ 120v (~1100w), so the 400w inverter (~3A @ 120v) wouldn't be enough. -Tom
How did you keep the truck from throwing a "Ground Fault" I'm Running mine through a Transfer switch and I bypassed the SurgeGuard so it basically from the truck to the Victron Multiplus II X120.
First, I'd check your grounds in the transfer switch (just in case). The Multiplus uses a relay that bonds the neutral to the ground while in inverting mode (this is a VERY important safety feature). It opens that relay when it connects to incoming power. That relay is pretty fast, but sometime it'll trip a GFCI outlet that's sensitive, or in your case, it seems your truck. My suggestion is to put the inverter into "charger only" mode and then plug it into the truck. In theory that will cause the relay to open, before it's plugged into the truck. Safe travels! -Tom
@@GreatOutdoorsSolar Thank for the info. I will check into that
For routing the additional solar panels did you just screw into the roof decking? Or did you make sure and go into a support? Also, do you sell any products for self install?
Depends on the roof, but typically the roof decking is more than enough. The factory panels are just in decking as well. We've never had a panel come off and installed probably installed 750-1000 panels over the years. Lots of people go over kill and try to all the way though the roof and other nonsense. Also we do sell products, Victron, Rich, Epoch, AIMS, etc. -Tom
Looks fantastic! Why haven’t you started installing with 48v
I've answered this numerous times, but essentially we have done several, 24 and 48v, and we don't recommend them because they are less efficient and more complex system for no gains and more money. -Tom
What year and what model Ford Super Dutys have the onboard inverters?
Sorry that's a question for the vehicle manufacture. Thanks for watching.
why didn't you use an ecoflow to simplify everything
Because the cost for what you get isn't great. Like a tiny battery bank for example.
Can you explain to me(us) how you're going to pull 15A from the vehicle inverter when the vehicle system is only rated for 400W/3.3A(max) at the vehicle 120V outlet...? I run a VE 12-12/18A dc-dc as an alt method to charging batteries on a travel day...
You're missing the fact that some vehicles comes with a 2000w inverter, not a tiny just about useless 400w one. So this video is for those people. 18A @ 14v is ~250watts which isn't much when you're recharging a 10,000wh battery bank. It'd take ~40 hours, where the 120A from the inverter charger is ~1600w aka ~6 hours to recharge the whole battery bank. -Tom
@@GreatOutdoorsSolar What vehicles come with a 2000W inverter...???(other than fords power pro option, which an additional $995 for the 2400W on the gas version of the F150, or even the superduty, IF you ordered it) Well, I have 12,960Wh battery bank, and I didn't say that it was the only I have of charging, I said it was a method of charging on a travel day, I also have 2200W PV panels on the roof, 3 VE 150-/70 charge controllers, feeding 2-VE Multiplus II 120x2 3000Va inverters in parallel, and the necessary HW to support the system... Additionally, my other unit has a 12/12-50 DC-DC charger in addition to 1000W PV panels, 1-150/70 charge controller and a Multipus II, 12000Wh battery bank, and all the necessary supporting HW... Relying or even utilizing the vehicles onboard inverter(regardless of size) for extended periods of time is foolish and irresponsible, they're meant to be used for short periods of time, not maxxed out for extended times... Alternators are another consideration, undersized alternators running full bore all the time won't last long either... Do it long enough and often enough and you smoke the vehicles electrical system, that is if you don't burn the vehicle to the ground...
The Ford in the video clearly came with a 2000w inverter as it was pictured. A $1000 truck upgrade for a 2000w inverter is about the cost of a similar sized good generator. It's only about $600 extra for us to install the Quattro this way. So about $1600 total.. where a single DC-DC charger installed is typically $1400-1600 for less charging. So it is a good option, we're simply taking advantage of the vehicles that do have the 2000w inverter for our customers... we don't tell them what truck to buy. As far as burning up the alternators and/or causing the truck to burn down. I feel you're unjustly upset at us for your truck not having a 2000w inverter. We are not a vehicle manufacturer, so I suggest you take some of your questions to them. Hopefully the multimillion dollar company designing and selling the truck put some basic R&D into the inverter they are installing and the system that is powering it. As far as your systems go, I'm glad they are working for you. Just like your systems, this one isn't solely charging off the truck... -Tom
I have a BS in electronic engineering, this is my 2nd RV and my 3rd system and I run an almost identical system with the Multiplus 2 on my new 2024 GD Reflection. I don’t use the truck for charging because I don’t need it. I did use 6 of the newer Rich Solar 250w panels along with the factory 370w panel. I also used the Epoch batteries. Keep up the good work. I always follow your installs!
Nice, we just did a Nexus Wraith with six 250w panels last week. Safe travels -Tom
You didn't show the solar insulation.
Guess you missed it, it's just panels on a roof, which were shown. Cheers -Tom
I think that's an awesome idea, even if your overnighting and going from point A to B.... 🎉 ❤
Nice Idea. I am looking to get. Brinkley in the next 18 months and go full time. How long does an average install take and I assume it will be at your location in FL?
One week, you drop on Monday and pick up on Friday, this and lots of other frequently asked questions (for example we have a travel installer and a shop) are answered here: greatoutdoorssolar.com/frequently-asked-questions/ Prices and stuff as well. Thanks for watching! -Tom
Any reason why you didn't use the left side wall of the under bay to mount any of the Victron components? In our 3610 the side wall is steel and I was planning to use it to mount the inverter.
The propane tanks on the others side of the wall is the issue. -Tom
Great Idea! We just traded/sold our truck and GD Reflection for a new truck and Brinkley Z 3610. Our Reflection was loaded with a nice solar / Victron system we installed ourselves and it was so nice we were starting to plan our next install for the Brinkley. And, of course, I was fully committed to do the DC to DC charging. I actually thought to myself that the on board power on my new F350 was a waste. But now, after watching this, I am STOKED to use it with a Quattro. Thanks so much!
You're welcome, we are a Victron dealer if you need to order parts. We sell them at the lowest price we're allowed to, which is the same prices you'd see on Amazon. Happy tinkering! -Tom
Most inverters that come preinstalled in trucks are NOT pure sine and lower power. 350 to 800w isn't enough. So might as well install your own or upgrade the factory unit.
That is an option if you really wanted the onboard truck inverter. A simple 2000w cheap pure sine inverter would work just fine. -Tom
Great! You’re using your truck to charge on travel days (a basic example you used) and by using the trucks inverter to charge, they “save a lot of money”. Well that inverter is a VERY costly option on the truck side, about $1000. Can you install a DC to DC charger for less than $1000? It only sacrifices minimal about of charging power for cheaper. Yes, the way your utilizing the on board power is is a cleaner option, just don’t sell it as a cheaper option, thats relative.
Seems like you didn't watch the entire video, I talked about if your truck doesn't come with an onboard inverter. I also say how much it cost for us to do a DC-DC converter and wire the truck, which is not less than $1000. For those that have the plug already it is cheaper, in fact it less than half the price. For those that don't, I would just buy a cheap generator that will power the 120A inverter charger over the more money and less charging of a DC to DC charger on a towable. -Tom
Why do i need a 2nd AC input? I can just use a 110v adapter to the shore power?
Sure you can use the shore power cord.. but I'm not sure how you'd drive down the road with the shore power attached. -Tom
What HD trucks have a 2000w inverters? I thought they were down around 400w
Fords have up to 7200 watt inverters
@@EBKRV412 only the f150 hybrid. I don’t think any of the HD Ford trucks have it.
@@ClayBellBrews the HD's have the 2KW since 2023 and the 150s have the 2kw or 7.2kw at the moment but the new Super Duty's will also have the 7.2kw or larger as an option in 26 when their new Hybrid HD launches....GM and RAM are falling far behind
@@EBKRV412 Look at Ford slithering in on being useful during this electrification craze. A shame GM and Ram always playing catch-up
I know Ford does, not sure about others, but it's definitely coming to the market. There have been people making tool boxes that have inverters and batteries in them for mobile workers for a while now. You see it in the oil field and other more remote jobs quite often. I think the manufactures are finally seeing that as a selling point. So hopefully more and more will put a bigger inverter in. LOTS of campers would love to not need a generator while camping. -Tom
My 2020 Chevy 2500 has just a 400 W AC outlet in the bed. I like the idea of not having the DC to DC, but my wimpy outlet might not be enough.
Thanks for the info Tom, it’s good to see you again.
thanks for the heads up, my Deneli duelly didnt have the on board inverter...only a second alternator with a second battery..sniff so I went with the Orian 30amp. It was the only thing available with Victron. Its a good idea the way you set your client up, I like it. I never came close to 50% with my battery bank on the road. Solar + Orian were on point during my drive.
Just depends on where and when you're traveling. For example fall, especially in norther states can be tough to stay full on solar alone. Lots of new trucks come with the 20A plug now in the bed, not all, but lots do. So this is simply an option, I wouldn't go buy a new truck or anything. However, when lots of people retire, they buy a new truck and a new RV to travel in, so it's an option for those people. -Tom
@@GreatOutdoorsSolar exactly true.. when I travel from Montreal to florida in Dec, the solar rays are very low. I also outfitted a small fan pushing fresh cool air onto the 12/12/30 Orion. It heats up and throttles the amps.. but not any more. thanks again for your awesome content. Keep it coming
Great idea! Wish I knew about this 6 months ago. I have the F250 with onboard inverter. I went with the multiplus in the camper and use the truck to supply AC power through the shore power cord when stationary instead of carrying a separate generator. Would have been nice to be able to supply power while on the move. Now I would have to do a transfer switch to get a similar result.
Nice, hope it's worked well for you! Thanks for taking the time to comment and safe travels. -Tom
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Super clean install. Great job on that ‘factory wall / venting’. I’m buying a new Brinkley and just sent you guys a message from your web site. Look forward to speaking with you.
Awesome! Thank you!
I've seen several solar system, the majority with Victron. Is Victron the only option? Why are all in one unit with 5KW battery not being used?
Nobody else offers the networking Victron offers, plus they have well known quality, and they have a 5 years warranty. The typical all in ones don't typically fit well in lots of different RVs, they don't typically have good warrantees, and the price for what you get isn't usually great. We've done over 150+ installs with lots of different brands and learned from experience what the best route was. My very first system in 2017 was AGM batteries and a AIMS inverter for example. -Tom
Need to start looking at newer 48volt batteries with 4000-5000+ watts of solar. Is being done now more often. Can run two acts and still charge batteries
24 and 48v systems in a RV are less efficient because the majority of the loads (12v DC) have to go through a DC converter that are typically 80-90% efficient aka you're adding 10-20% of inefficiency to the majority of your loads. We've done 24 & 48v installs, and 12v on RVs is the way to go in our experience. Plus 4-5kw of solar isn't going to keep up 24/7 with the AC usage anyways. It's not enough to refill the entire battery bank from overnight usage and still run the ACs. Not in the real world at least. I know people with 8-10kw in solar and 2 RV ACs and they still have to supplement with a generator. In my opinion you are better off with a smaller, cheaper system that runs everything except the AC 24/7. If you need AC 24/7 then you're in the wrong area and should travel to better weather, or simply plug in at an RV park. We've done over 150 installs, have been doing it since 2017, and have 4 years of fulltime travel (actually living off solar) for experience. Thanks for watching -Tom
I'm curious why you installed a 12v system when 48 v is much better, that's what I've done on my Bluebird motor coach. Nice system anyway . Keep up the good work .JS.
Because the RVs main loads are 12v from the factory and a higher voltage system requires step down converters which are typically about 90% peak efficiency aka a higher voltage system is less efficient. RVs aren't big enough to really benefit from a 24 or 48v system.
That is the cleanest solar installation I have seen in any RV. Beautiful job. Bookmarking your site when we get our Brinkley!
Awesome! Thank you!