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MindThatEgo
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2015
Hi, I'm Ricky Derisz - Welcome to MindThatEgo, an enchanted paradigm for mental illness, spirituality, creativity, consciousness, and human potential.
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www.mindthatego.com/mindsets-for-mindfulness/
Every two weeks on Thursdays I publish new MindThatEgo Podcast episodes in dialogue with prominent figures in fields including depth psychology, philosophy, spirituality, and science. Episodes are available here on TH-cam and all popular platforms.
Join my mailing list for your free copy of Mindsets For Mindfulness: Awakening From Crisis To Higher Consciousness. Learn about my story, explore a new map of reality, and discover the mindsets to manage your ego on the journey of spiritual growth. You’ll receive updates roughly twice per month.
www.mindthatego.com/mindsets-for-mindfulness/
Every two weeks on Thursdays I publish new MindThatEgo Podcast episodes in dialogue with prominent figures in fields including depth psychology, philosophy, spirituality, and science. Episodes are available here on TH-cam and all popular platforms.
Undreaming Wetiko: Is Humanity Under the Spell of a Mind Virus? with Paul Levy
Paul Levy is a creative artist, a pioneer in the field of spiritual emergence, and a Tibetan Buddhist practitioner for more than 35 years. He is the founder of the Awaken in the Dream Community and the author of several books, including The Quantum Revelation and Undreaming Wetiko.
Our conversation dives into the murky depths of the so-called mind virus popularized by Indigenous author Jack Forbes, who in his book Columbus and Other Cannibals, refers to wetiko as “the sickness of exploitation.”
Paul is a gifted oracle whose description of subtle and hidden forces of wetiko illuminates how the mind virus influences our world, relationships, and inner processes. Together, we explore how our quantum reality mirrors a waking dream, and how the universe communicates through symbols. We discuss synchronicity, shadow projection, archetypal patterns, and four-valued logic or paradoxical thinking.
Paul also shares profound insights on awakening from mass hypnosis, the dangers of totalitarian psychosis, and the weaponization of technology. Plus, why critical thinking and our creative spirit is the ultimate superpower in undreaming wetiko and navigating these turbulent times.
And just a reminder before we jump into the conversation to please like, subscribe and share to help more people access the podcast.
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00:00 Intro
02:00 Wetiko as Native American Term
04:00 Self-Hypnosis and the Inner Disease
08:30 The Quantum Revelation
10:00 Is Reality a Collective Dream?
13:00 Wetiko and the Projected Shadow
16:00 Creative Spirit as the Cure
20:00 The "Criminal Inside" and Essence of Evil
23:00 Symbolic Awareness and Universe as Symbol
27:00 Symbols in Relationship
30:00 Wetiko and Making Trauma Conscious
33:00 Symbolic Awakening vs. Over-Synchronicity Stimulation
35:00 Radical Self-Honesty and True Nature
37:00 The Disease of Dissociation
40:00 Paradoxical Thinking and Four-Pointed Logic
42:00 Awakening From the Spell and the Sacred Power of Dreaming
48:00 Mass Media and Mind Control
50:00 Propaganda and the War on Consciousness
52:30 Critical Thinking as a Superpower
54:00 Technology and Tyranny
56:30 Totalitarian Psychosis
01:00:00 Responsibility of Dreaming a Brighter Future
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#wetiko #collectivetrauma #collectiveunconscious #selfrealization #spiritualawakening #shadowwork #symbolism #mythology #carljung #christconsciousness #woundedhealer #criticalthinking
Our conversation dives into the murky depths of the so-called mind virus popularized by Indigenous author Jack Forbes, who in his book Columbus and Other Cannibals, refers to wetiko as “the sickness of exploitation.”
Paul is a gifted oracle whose description of subtle and hidden forces of wetiko illuminates how the mind virus influences our world, relationships, and inner processes. Together, we explore how our quantum reality mirrors a waking dream, and how the universe communicates through symbols. We discuss synchronicity, shadow projection, archetypal patterns, and four-valued logic or paradoxical thinking.
Paul also shares profound insights on awakening from mass hypnosis, the dangers of totalitarian psychosis, and the weaponization of technology. Plus, why critical thinking and our creative spirit is the ultimate superpower in undreaming wetiko and navigating these turbulent times.
And just a reminder before we jump into the conversation to please like, subscribe and share to help more people access the podcast.
---
00:00 Intro
02:00 Wetiko as Native American Term
04:00 Self-Hypnosis and the Inner Disease
08:30 The Quantum Revelation
10:00 Is Reality a Collective Dream?
13:00 Wetiko and the Projected Shadow
16:00 Creative Spirit as the Cure
20:00 The "Criminal Inside" and Essence of Evil
23:00 Symbolic Awareness and Universe as Symbol
27:00 Symbols in Relationship
30:00 Wetiko and Making Trauma Conscious
33:00 Symbolic Awakening vs. Over-Synchronicity Stimulation
35:00 Radical Self-Honesty and True Nature
37:00 The Disease of Dissociation
40:00 Paradoxical Thinking and Four-Pointed Logic
42:00 Awakening From the Spell and the Sacred Power of Dreaming
48:00 Mass Media and Mind Control
50:00 Propaganda and the War on Consciousness
52:30 Critical Thinking as a Superpower
54:00 Technology and Tyranny
56:30 Totalitarian Psychosis
01:00:00 Responsibility of Dreaming a Brighter Future
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#wetiko #collectivetrauma #collectiveunconscious #selfrealization #spiritualawakening #shadowwork #symbolism #mythology #carljung #christconsciousness #woundedhealer #criticalthinking
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What are the normal senses and what are the 'abnormal' senses?
Thank you.I had similar experience with psychosis.And I am happy that I am not the only one. I have never told to anybody, but im my psyhosis during I was sleeping I heard the voice waking me and telling me,,God is an idea".. i felt happy with because i had my religious crisis and the answer was perfect. You can interpretate in in 2ways....than I woke up and went outside and I saw on the sky a formation like an Orion, similar to your symbol. I have changed myself..my ego was dead..I started to meditate, red an watch everything about synchronicity. I had precognitiv dreams, vision since than. I am taking medicine, because doctors wont believe me and i had once again a psychosis. But i have have changed my job and i am doing well.
2018 I was psychotic and i had many synchronicities..I was sceptic, it that only my mind filtering or there is something more.I know there is something more..In my psychosis I saw a symbol on the night sky. I thought it was Orion..it reminds me the symbol of your chanel. What is that?
I’m so confused about my dreams because there’s someone in my life that keeps a reappearing in them, but I have no deep attachment to him. In the dreams we kind of just hang out and it’s nice but in reality we don’t really know each other. My best friend and her boyfriend are kind of playing a matchmaker where they’re trying to get me (19) and his best friend (20) together. Maybe they’re not forcefully trying to get us together, but they have arranged for us to meet two times already even though I haven’t really spoken to him yet. It was more of a four way conversation, like it wasn’t just me and him having a dialogue but anyway, he keeps reappearing in my dreams and I have no idea what the hell that means haha. Also it always feels very weirdly real
I had a psychosis 3 times(no drug) . I had such experience, that my psychiatrist wont belive me..I had so many synchronicities and more..it change me, i am.not religion person anymore -i am.spiritual person..I.found also my creativity again..I started to writing again..in one psychosis I saw Orion sign on the sky. I still dont know what does that symbol means.
Wow this is it
peace from Indonesia❤
Thank you for sharing this inspiring conversation!
She blocked me and clearly doesn’t want anything to do with me. I’m trying to forget her and stop thinking about her. She has her own life, and I respect that. But it’s crazy-every morning, I wake up hoping she’ll finally be out of my dreams, yet she’s there every single night without fail. I even had to look into why this keeps happening. And now you’re telling me to contact her? What terrible advice! 😂😂😂
Lmaooooooo same!
I keep dreaming about the same person. He tells me he loves me,its the same dream all the time.Nearly four nights a week ,it's beautiful, i loved him many years ago and still do, i cant figure it out ,
thank you. I always get so much from listening to the old Jungians who really understood what Jung was saying, and his telos of developing personal responsibility for increasing consciousness in the world. So many modern so-called Jungians don't seem to get the deeply ethical underpinnings of Jungian work. Thank you Dr Stein for continuing to bring Jung's approach and understanding of the psyche into public awareness.
Thank you!
I used to have a reoccurring dream, when I was a child, about the same man who was looking for me. I never saw his face, always just from midway down. Faded yellow button-up shirt and brown polyester pants. I was always hiding because I 'knew' he was looking for me and he was not good. Im not sure what that means, but even 30+ years later I still remember it and can still describe him, the room, and the chest I always hid behind.
I forgot to add, that while not at first, but during the dream I always at some point realized it was a dream and was able to wake myself up before he found me
thank you so much. Your kind voice and words are healing.
Wow, what an amazing video. I’ve realised that I have no self compassion over the past few years after harrowing family issues. I’m going to keep listening to you. Subbed!
It's a sobering realisation, isn't it?! I've been there. But it's also the beginning of a self-compassionate journey. Good luck 🙏🏻
might I ask a question of you and/or your guest? I have asked numerous people this same question and have received answers as wide-ranging as one might imagine. my question, 'how might it be possible for Synchronicity and Free Will to co-exist? '. perhaps it is just me but having experienced many events concerning Synchronicity I am sorta left with the feeling that perhaps Free Will is, for the most part, illusionary.
Great question. I address this in my essay for the Playful Universe, and in a recent podcast conversation: th-cam.com/video/5ph-a6Tl4FM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rZJPMKnHpqhBRm9w. In short, I see synchronicity as a call to engagement. Where this gets tricky is when it comes to conscious/unconscious direction and guidance. Do I have egoic free will? Does my "higher self" have free will? I sense that autonomy exists within a much more limited space than we might imagine, but we do still have the power to choose.
Still a story... Whose past, present and future. Foster clarity thru "seeing" of emptiness.
I don't entirely agree it's a story. There are multiple domains of being, some timeless, some fleeting and ever-changing. Whilst emptiness is a noble pursuit, these types of imaginative journeys can offer people a bridge to deeper realisation.
i enjoyed this although - it was not easy - it was a lot to unpack and process
Why are we assuming a starting point of compassion? Is it just because it is a common trait and its best to heal the masses rather than those that are outliers?
They are stuck in the story of "me" which is where compassion functions...
I'm not entirely sure I follow, as this talk assumes a starting point of self dis-compassion, with the need to cultivate deeper layers of compassion. In my experience the majority of people lack self-compassion, but this is learned, not innate. Suggesting love and compassion as foundational traits doesn't imply it's easy to cultivate, either, quite the contrary.
@@williamcallahan5218 I think you miss the point.
great!
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I believe it's Deamons taking on their identity trying to get you in the wrong hands.
So last night I had a dream about someone I liked.. a lot. I never told them and I don’t think they ever knew but last night in my dream it just felt so real and like I was with them, we met up (in the dream went out and about and just talking etc) and then I woke up.. it’s just so annoying I want to message them but i don’t even now what to say let alone have the balls to ask to meet up.. life is definitely a weird thing..
1:17:13. The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis states that these concepts not only shape how we see the world but the world shapes these concepts. So it may mean that it is a truly solo project and we but share glimpses via concepts and allusions shared across each dimension(being our selves or perspectives/Culture and social).
I appreciate this take. There's definitely more to enquire and explore in the overlap of cognition, concepts, and the make-up of reality.
21:16. I would agree. Also point to a very likely influence for Jung in Nietzsche. He explained his Ubermench, or ideal man, like a BodhiSattva: as template to aim for, but that we might not achieve(he says maybe our great great grand-kids). It is the attempt to embody that we fail, but land in our true self of Jung: Individuation. To know oneself within the whole. Ich und Du. A We and Us, that does not deny the individual as neither can be separated.
Beautifully said, thank you.
Also, how boring would full enlightenment be, too? Careful what you wish for. Being human and not having all the answers is what makes all thsi interesting.
Totally agree. The lightbulb moment for me came from the idea of the unconscious. Can you imagine being conscious of everything all at once? Sounds awful 😅
@@MindThatEgo Or completely fearless, completly calm. Or to know everything. How lame and boring art would be. Who wants to look at the stars and "know" - I don't. This old phrase applies in spiritual circles as it does anywhere else: seek those who are searching for the truth, ignore those who have found it. The major problem with much of modern and ancient spirituality is its "sufficiency" - it becomes teh catch all for everything and the person becomes captured. Even their metaphysics captured and framed.
@@MindThatEgo You might like the blog Speculative Non-Buddhism.
@@MindThatEgo This is why I have always, as part of my practice, read Western philosophy: baudrillard, heidegger, coiran, deboard, etc. It helps against just one system of thought being sufficient.
Wonderful interview. Adresses key current topics as power, depression/suicide, lonliness, world leaders, enviroment and money. Talks of the value of meditation, acceptance, honesty and presence. Condensed guideline to living in a balansed state.
Thank you for this overview; it's useful having this reflected ☺
I got separated with my boyfriend recently and had misunderstanding and fights since many months and i ended up everything a week ago, and since then i saw him in my dreams 3 times in this week, none of them were positive dream, all of them showed me the problems i had in the relationship, like he is arguing with me or telling me that he is done, or I am getting adviced my someone that i need to improve and work on this to get him back etc and all. I am trying to move on but these dreams are coming. Why. ? Please tell me
asynchronous ...chance, coincidence, and correspondence.... synchronous ...coherence, congruence, and consilience.... kairos/teleos ...meaningful, truthful, and useful.... dialectical dialogues
Love this! So much diversity and nuance that to be included, understood, and discerned on so many levels, some of which never will be.
There are ...Individual, Collective, and Archetypic.... Ideas, Ideologies, and Ideologicalisms which factor into our ...Survival, Evolution and Creativity....
This was a really great video and made me feel a little emotional when you were talking about meeting the feeling with more compassion. I’m currently on a journey. It’s been getting worse for me. I’m going to keep trying to learn as much as I can, but thank you. ❤
Trust the emotional resonance! Compassion is absolutely key. What most people don't understand is that when engulfed in such darkness, cultivating compassion is a huge undertaking, a spiritual battle, if you will. Your absolute call to adventure is meeting yourself with as much love and understanding as humanly (and spiritually) possible. Keep going 💙
Ricky, if you're serious about Jung's work, at least learn how to pronounce his name correctly. Jung is pronounced as Yoong, not Young because the letter U in German is always pronounced like OO in English. Also, your meandering questions and comments are incoherent and annoying. You need to read more before conversing on a subject that you evidently know little about.
I bet you're fun at parties.
I really appreciate Richards insights. I'm reading his latest book now. He says there is no one perspective that can nail it down 54:24. May I offer my own understanding? Life can become complicated. Ignorance may be bliss but it leaves much on the table to experience in this life. Many believe, as a result of the modern scientific revolution, have become convinced of a grand narrative that materialistic reductionism can explain everything, which leaves us with agnostic humans that have neglected their souls. They barely believe in anything beyond the here and now. These are hollow entities that are once again manifesting in the flesh through people who either lack any vision into the eternal state of being, have been deceived by entities in the heavenly realms they are unaware of-which they have left an empty meat suit for these malevolent spirits to take up residence in. Or because of no choice of their own, circumstance has them in a terrible situation. The problem lies beyond what we can detect with our 5 senses and our reasoning mind. The root cause is in the spirit and there is a way to enter into this realm. It is through the "Thura". Greek word for doorway, or gate, or portal. And that is Jesus Christ. This is the proper way to interpret reality, in Him. This is His second coming or appearance while we have this life to live. And when you are an eyewitness to an event where you see the dead being brought back to life in this age, in this time, perspectives change. This is how God works thoughout 3 dimensional life. "They who live by believing in me shall never die. Even if they die, yet shall they live again." This is what is missing from dialogue today. I've seen it!
I appreciate you taking the time to craft such a thorough sharing, thank you! I fully resonate with what we've lost by going all-in on the scientific revolution, and the soullessness it creates, as well as the de-sacralisation of the material or meat suit as you say. I'm on a journey and while some time ago I would've completely dismissed your perspective on Jesus, my perspective is changing. I ultimately view things archetypally and mythologically, BUT, the more I explore how those domains interact with and influence "waking" reality, the more curious I become to what happens in extreme cases. My own experiences of miraculous or impossible synchronicities or manifestations, etc, has led me to go full circle and consider if certain events in history did indeed open a portal into the archetypal domain to the degree these events were more literal than I'd previously imagined. So... ask me again in a year or two 😅🙏🏻 PS: the Wounded Healer video is coming soon on my other channel, Archetypes of Awakening. Look out for it, we include Christ's journey.
@MindThatEgo I look forward to listening to more of your podcasts in the future. I'm writing a book of my dreams and visions I have been having since the 1987 event I experienced that is like an Apocrypha of the Hebrew seers and prophets, similar to the 1st Book of Enoch. I tend to include excerpts from the book into some of my responses. The realms of the spirits or the heavens, in which I enter into regularly in and through Jesus Christ is still present since He inagurated it with His incarnation. But apparently speaking of this is taboo or looked upon as fantasy or wishful thinking within the institutional church. Hard to open a mind and heart to a bigger perspective of Gods Kingdom when the soul is influenced by dimensionally trapped or malevolent spirits. Well, I say differently. And all people living in the current and coming age will realize to some degree or the other that this is eternal life. And we are contributing to our souls growth, maturity and tendencies in the unseen dimensions of our life.
@MindThatEgo I also agree with you about the archetype theme. There are repeating cycles in this time/age/dimension/reality which we live in that manifest through cultures that I believe are results or consequences of what is going on in the unseen dimensions of our lives. This is the spiritual realm, or the heavens. Everybody's soul originates there whether they realize it or not, and we have the ability/opportunity to develop this soul as we see fit, because this is the free will gift from God. I believe what we are right now IS a creation and there is a higher being creator responsible for that, as limited as the human mind is to conceive of anything beyond the 4 dimensions we experience. (Time being the 4th dimension) but time is merely a guage for us to measure our days in the hopes that when "The Transition of Ages" comes,(the title of my book) every person will ascend both physically and spiritually. This is the message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ written in the cannon of Scriptures. Regardless of how well it is and was communicated by other people who claim to be "teachers" of the word of God. I find many of them are trying to do good, and they do love Jesus Christ, but they are still spiritually asleep. Sincere souls, spiritual infants trying to give insight into a dimension they have only read about in a book, or learned about in a paid for academic setting. Never having had the experience nor ability to remember what happens when not bound by the 4th dimension and the 5 senses of the flesh. I believe God communicates through dreams and visions to certain people throughout all time to share a bigger perspective of reality than what most of us are able to on our own.
Thank you for this illuminating, profound and healing interaction and putting into words such complex and important matters. You're both beautiful souls. Prayer also saves me in these tumultuous times, inside and out. 🤍🙏🌀🪽🪶🍃❤️
Thank you for such beautiful feedback 🙏🏻
Interesting turnaround at the end. I would personally say, that instead of prayer, it is a relational inquiry. You relate to reality, as reality. 'Knowing things' is in the realm of 'knowing what to do', operational realm -- which includes how to shift energies and etc. We already ARE, however.
I came here because I have awakened in waking life and wondered about lucid dreaming being similar to it. I've never actually lucid dreamed, but I wanted to know about the mirrored 'reality' of it. SO thank you for sharing your experience. Everything is a mirror.
Where are the people we can talk to when experiencing this? I am needing a spiritual psychiatrist or shaman, a being that understands. I’ve been diagnosed with mental illness, personality disorders and hormonal imbalance disorders and I’m aware it’s not my soul, and have moved a lot of the trauma but when I’m episode it’s my hell of Maya. I’m blissful and in grace when medicated which is fine. Does anyone have recommendations kindly.
There are a number of organisations approaching these topics with care. As well as individual psychologists/therapists that are aware of spiritual emergency. Check out: Spiritual Emergence Network: www.spiritualemergence.org/ Spiritual Crisis Network: spiritualcrisisnetwork.uk/ ISPS-US: isps-us.org/ Certain therapies, such as IFS or Jungian analysis, may also be worth exploring.
Thank you
The “God” of the monotheists is nonexistent. Which is evident by the history of each of the 3 religions.
Can you elaborate? I'm not entirely sure what you're pointing at...
Thank you both ❤ AlhamduliLlah
Thank you for this reveling of who and what we are. What a beautiful reality to embrace and share. Peace Love and Joy for us all. ..
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I value the continued sharing in the comments section. Initially I was attempting to engage and enquire deeper, but I can't keep up with them all. I read each response, though. For deeper exploration you may want to consider a 1-on-1 session. More here: www.mindthatego.com/coaching/
I Dreamed about a child all the time ?
Ricky what a wonderful interview. While Shaykh Fadhlalla is certainly a light and an enlightened teacher your respectful probing questions asked with such honesty and genuineness allowed him to share so much of his wisdom. Thank you. Hope you will do a follow up in a few months. ❤I
It's uplifting and encouraging to receive such wholesome feedback. Allowing guests to shine is what I strive for in this elusive role of host/conversationalist 😁. A follow-up would be delightful 💙
A true blessing, if you can see. I see ❤
Thank u for sharing. This man actually change my life ❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing this wisdom. I hope others can see the truth. If you ever get a view from outside your cave (allegory of the cave experience). You will see how hard it is to get people with an established paradigm to see it ❤.
So true. If you're a fan of meaningful coincidence, the verse of the Qur'an that corresponds to the episode number (51) is related to protection from the Evil Eye: "And indeed, those who disbelieve would almost make you slip with their eyes when they hear the message, and they say: Indeed, he is mad. But it is not except a reminder to the worlds." Felt this to be an apt message towards the challenge facing those speaking to these truths 🙏🏻.
@@MindThatEgo thank you. Their eyes seem to start to flutter, searching when they can't understand.
@@MindThatEgo How can one criticize the stubbornness of other people belief's and take take an agnostic stance himself? I don't get it. Your experiences you describe are beautiful, meaningful, profound. But why do you need to label them "Truth"? Just why?
@@andreasmuller5223 I'm not agnostic when it comes to God. My stance is that God can be experienced, although there are many aspects of the Great Mystery that I am agnostic toward, I certainly don't think we can know everything, but we can experience the divine. You've responded to a thread within which I'm acknowledging a generalised cynicism which often comes with superiority and condescension. I have no time for that. I do have time and patience for anyone wanting to dialogue with an open mind. This isn't a matter of belief. Belief is in the domain of concept, ideology, mental constructs. Experience is a different matter. Sure, there are delusions of experience. But you don't "believe" in the sky or in your reflection, so why do you have to "believe" in God, if that is something experienced? Truth in this context is what remains when falsehood has fallen away. What is absolutely fundamental? You can't think your way to that point of understanding, it's part of a self-enquiry practice, I suggest you try.
If you like Murray's book, "Map of the Soul" check out this recent TH-cam video taken in his Zurich office: "Map of the Soul: the Self" th-cam.com/video/MJddGOC7gs0/w-d-xo.html
If you like Jung's Map of the Soul, check out TH-cam "Map of the Soul: the Self" th-cam.com/video/MJddGOC7gs0/w-d-xo.html