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Physical Chess 01: The Pieces
Hey Gang,
Ever wonder why people call fencing "Physical Chess?" Well, let's find out. In the first of a new series, we start to make comparisons between chess and fencing, with some fighting game shenanigans sprinkled in for good measure. We'll be taking a look at the pieces in chess and their analogs in fencing. Let us know how wrong we are in the comments!
References:
1.) Challenge International de Paris 2022 SMF - L4 - Cheung Ka Long HKG v Alessio Foconi ITA
CyrusofChaos
th-cam.com/video/TNG-xpdrVMk/w-d-xo.html
2.) Torino Grand Prix 2023 SMF - L4 - Gerek Meinhardt USA v Daniele Garozzo ITA
CyrusofChaos
th-cam.com/video/Rc6kYn9Fz6I/w-d-xo.html
3.) Why is Chun Li ALWAYS top tier??
jmcrofts
th-cam.com/video/Xuki7fXimR8/w-d-xo.html
4.) Greatest Parries in Smash Ultimate
Dragon Smash
th-cam.com/video/tIqY0DDbfco/w-d-xo.html
5.) Cassara (ITA) v Eli Schenkel (CAN) [T32] | Fencing Men’s Foil Ind Highlights TOKYO 2020 Games
Gavriil
th-cam.com/video/guzAEhurCo4/w-d-xo.html
6.) 2023 134 T32 16 M F Individual Torino ITA GP RED IIMURA JPN vs MARINI ITA
Fencing Vision
th-cam.com/video/PlAtmxNhReQ/w-d-xo.html
7.) Istanbul World Cup 2023 SMF - L32 - Kirill Borodachev RUS v Miles Chamley-Watson USA
CyrusofChaos
th-cam.com/video/1Y-NrsOvUVQ/w-d-xo.html
8.) Bad Bishop
Chess.com
www.chess.com/terms/bad-bishop
9.) Bishop pair vs Strong Bishop on d6.
roley42 on Chess.com forums
www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/bishop-pair-vs-strong-bishop-on-d6
10.) 2019 244 T64 10 M F Individual Budapest HUN WCH RED MERTINE FRA vs SCHENKEL CAN
Fencing Vision
th-cam.com/video/eWk-APfjbJg/w-d-xo.html#
11.) Acapulco World Cup 2023 SMF - L64 - Andrii Pogrebniak UKR v Nick Itkin USA
CyrusofChaos
th-cam.com/video/wbERV3LItYs/w-d-xo.html
12.) 2024 Tunis Foil World Cup SMF - L16 - Nick Itkin USA vs Jaime Cook GBR
Drewstrains
th-cam.com/video/pBgs2XbjBvU/w-d-xo.html
13.) Height vs Speed - Fencing Style Clash (Cook vs Choupenitch Japan World Cup)
Olympic Foil
th-cam.com/video/GzB7bi0hN8M/w-d-xo.html
14.) CIP 2017 - Finale individuelle - Massialas / Safin
ESCRIME TV
th-cam.com/video/s5F7u-3IyUI/w-d-xo.html
15.) When To Use Normal Throws vs Command Throws - Street Fighter V Tutorial
jmcrofts
th-cam.com/video/CVtp28wPpx8/w-d-xo.html
16.) European Championships 2024 JMF - L32 - Jaimie Cook GBR v Eliot Chagnon FRA
CyrusofChaos
th-cam.com/video/HckY0FIJJLs/w-d-xo.html
17.) Men’s Foil - FIE Satellite Torunament Amsterdam 2024 -FINAL- MINOTT KAMAL GBR- COOK JAMIE GBR
14METERS
th-cam.com/video/NrCwm9TCuuU/w-d-xo.html
18.) Fencing World Cup - 41 year old VS 19 year old competitor (Men's Foil)
Olympic Foil
th-cam.com/video/1GY5oV5j0e8/w-d-xo.html
19.) Theory Fighting: An Example of Conditioning
The Third Pixel
th-cam.com/video/JqSu0h-Oc4U/w-d-xo.html
20.) Why a strong pawn-structure is a valuable asset
CHESSFOX
chessfox.com/why-a-strong-pawn-structure-is-a-valuable-asset/
21.) Pawn(chess)
Wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawn_(chess)
22.) Incheon Grand Prix 2022 SMF - L4 - Choi HKG v Foconi ITA
CyrusofChaos
th-cam.com/video/-rjBZqmoLe4/w-d-xo.html
23.) Cody Schwab (Fox) vs Zain (Marth) - Riptide 2024 - Melee Singles - Grand Final
Beyond the Summit - Smash
th-cam.com/video/Pl55lx7z_8U/w-d-xo.html
Music:
City By Night - ELPHNT
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  • @donatomandetta6095
    @donatomandetta6095 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Extremely helpful!! As a short foil fencer I can say that having a coach that knows how a short fencer should fence and that understands that us shorties need to approach fencing in a different way and use ad-hoc techniques can really make the difference When I was 16, the two strongest girls in my club (both Italian champions for 2 years straight) were short and took a ton of lessons specifically to train that particular way of fencing.

  • @FencingInsider
    @FencingInsider 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting ideas! I like the example at 16:37. In fencing, landing a flick early in the bout can really help you get your opponent to be worried about direct hits as well as flicks. So then you combine both, and keep changing the lines where you finish, staying one or a few steps ahead throughout the bout🤺🤺🤺

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FencingInsider thanks, my guy!

  • @bgjr2304
    @bgjr2304 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I learned a few things!

  • @Fraxxureoso
    @Fraxxureoso 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Extremely helpful, I think another good example for short fencers would be Peter’s Joppich

  • @Ishani-i8w
    @Ishani-i8w หลายเดือนก่อน

    My coach says the exact same thing. Fencing is literally just physical chess and its way more mental than people think it is. People think it’s like just a very physical sport but it is veryy mental sometimes.something i wanna point out off topic is that fencing a lefty while you are a righty is really flippin hard

  • @tomasvargasescobar2177
    @tomasvargasescobar2177 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @chodgson
    @chodgson หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was sure that pawn would be point in line - it has such perfect parallels to the pawn - get it to the other side, aka. touch without being parried/beaten, the attack at an angle is like a disengage. It is also a tool that can be used both defensively and offensively, it is very much out in front of the other pieces, it can be used to setup other actions. But I get that you are generally assigning much higher level concepts to the pieces, there are too many individual actions to assign just one to each piece. My understanding of the idea of fencing as physical chess is basically extending your idea of fencing as rock-paper-scissors, to a more elaborate level than even rock-paper-scissors-lizard-spock - the idea that every action has a counter action, but you have to evaluate what you know and learn about your opponents tactics to adapt your strategy on the fly. Also knowing that your opponent knows you are adapting - how many levels deep do you go? - is analagous in some ways to how many turns deep can you analyze a chess move.

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great questions hopefully I can address them all. 1.) I can see why you think of point in line as pawns. Responses like this are why I made this video. I just think the pawns (much like footwork) are a fundamental part of any chess match and in many cases control the “flow” of a match. POL I think is far more situational, but I’d be curious to see what others say. 2.) I think I’ve pretty much assigned every action that you could. The beauty of both games to me is how finite pieces can build nigh infinite situations. If I had to assign a piece to POL I’d probably lump it in with the castles; direct, simple threat. 3.) calculations in both chess and fencing are dynamic and I think change throughout a match. In chess, I think most people have an opening or a couple favourite openings that they use to “feel out” their opponent in the same way that I think most fencers will try “what they’re comfortable with” at the start of a match and begin to adapt accordingly. I’d say a key difference, though, is that layers in complexity in fencing cannot go as deep as in chess purely because people have gotten so good at hitting. In sabre, for example, you’re never gonna see an action more than let’s say 3 or 4 layers deep. For instance, I invite, you see through this and accept it with a false Lunge I parry and anticipate your counter parry with a disengage is gonna be as deep as it gets (I’ll take more about this in the next video). I think in fencing, most of the calculation comes from deciding your opponents skill level relative to your own. If you’re stronger, keep it simple. If they’re stronger, that’s when you really need to add layers of complexity. Hope that made sense

    • @chodgson
      @chodgson หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@S-classFencing I can't disagree that pawns are far more important in chess than POL is in fencing. And I didn't mean to suggest that you hadn't assigned every move to a piece - I meant that you were doing it at a higher level, and so of course each piece had to have more than one move assigned. Finally I agree that one fencing phrase never goes as deep as a game of chess, but fencing does get deeper over the course of a bout between skilled fencers where they sort of learn what to expect from each other, and each tries to predict how much the other has learned and adapted (the "I know that he knows that I know that..." part).

  • @jacobikinz
    @jacobikinz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this video and all the other recent stuff too! What is your perspective on hyperextension of the elbow during extensions or lunges? I noticed that you were hyperextending at 1:43. I've always done the same until my coach told me explicitly not to a few months ago. I didn't really understand what the point of it was. Was wondering if you had any thoughts?

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd say that you have to be aware of how much your elbow hyoerextends. I know national team athletes why physically cannot extend past 170ish degrees, and they make that work. I also know some who can get to 200ish degrees who are successful at making it work for them (example, look at Lee Kiefer counterattacking or stop-hitting). There's no real right or wrong way to hit, so much as maximizing your own reach, or finding the exact distance you hope to get to with your extension (or lack thereof)

  • @OlympicFoil
    @OlympicFoil หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really liked the commentated lesson section 🔥

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro I have HOURSSSS of this stuff. Lmk if you'd want more of this kinda content

    • @RoseCamelia-e7f
      @RoseCamelia-e7f หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@S-classFencing I want it please. BTW I checked your patreon but it seems like there's nothing there yet?

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RoseCamelia-e7f It should be up now

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RoseCamelia-e7f www.patreon.com/posts/common-mistakes-118175270?Link&

    • @RoseCamelia-e7f
      @RoseCamelia-e7f หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@S-classFencing many thanks!

  • @ketrakrelek2347
    @ketrakrelek2347 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks coach!

  • @You-fools
    @You-fools หลายเดือนก่อน

    The physical demonstrations of bad habits to look for in practice are immensely helpful. Thank you so much!

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you! Your username is choice, btw

  • @flaze3
    @flaze3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video, but I think the wide parry also sets you up for a 4 or 6 flick nicely, so it depends on what action you're looking to follow with!

  • @AaronGoldring-f2e
    @AaronGoldring-f2e หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi guys , btw if I buy a small sized grip , should I get a size 5 blade with it . ( I am 15 )

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AaronGoldring-f2e yes if you plan to compete. Smaller sizes are for younger age categories.

    • @AaronGoldring-f2e
      @AaronGoldring-f2e หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍 thanks

  • @peterlewis8006
    @peterlewis8006 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this

  • @astrigal18
    @astrigal18 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well done. Always wondered about how to go about this.

  • @liorrrr100
    @liorrrr100 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos, i always learn something new

  • @MarionColleyJosepha
    @MarionColleyJosepha หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Hong Kong, I teach second language learners. I have a group who are doing a scene from Hamlet. I cannot get the fencing master in the school to come and choreograph the scene, so I am resorting to watching videos with the students. Next lesson will be a video fencing lesson (with rubber swords). I like your video, but you speak a little too fast. No worries, I can still use some of the video.

  • @PhilipLivdan
    @PhilipLivdan หลายเดือนก่อน

    The more I learn about fencing, the more it resembles stochastic processes and reinforcement learning, with each action being an optimization problem based on spatial position and opponent state. The fundamentals of point control map perfectly to error minimization and probability distributions, while bout strategy is essentially an exploration-exploitation problem with state-action value functions. Fencing ≈ Applied ML with Swords

    • @uselesscamel5360
      @uselesscamel5360 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting perspective!

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly, this is an incredible summation. Throw in some game theory and you've nailed it

  • @peterlewis8006
    @peterlewis8006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    miles doesn't search, point right

  • @boltonfarlept
    @boltonfarlept 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unnecessary pointless terminology added to decorate basic concepts to impress the naive with secret 'techniques'. Not necessarily wrong just way too much bs where none is necessary.

  • @바카디-o1t
    @바카디-o1t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a fan who supports him in Korea. Thank you and I'm glad you made this kind of video!

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@바카디-o1t thanks dude!

  • @FENCINGSEASON
    @FENCINGSEASON 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank u for great video. What is CQC?

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FENCINGSEASON close quarters combat

  • @VictorQuesada-bl1xk
    @VictorQuesada-bl1xk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The constant wheel of rock paper scissors makes this resource invaluable. Thanks for going over the role of the finger vs wrist movement. It's an excellent drill.

  • @VictorQuesada-bl1xk
    @VictorQuesada-bl1xk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this content. I'm working on improving my own role as a coach, having spent a LOT of time in Saber but not foil. As a bladeless drill, I also really like the idea of making things smooth before making them fast.

  • @sharkastic2633
    @sharkastic2633 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fencing in shorts is an interesting choice, I can respect it.

  • @jadetea5834
    @jadetea5834 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need to actually enforce black card rulings again. Refs have become way to lax

  • @zakninja3706
    @zakninja3706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THAT IS CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BLACK CARD THAT FOOL THAT WASN'T JUST VIOLENT THAT WAS HELLA DANGEROUS AND DISRESPECTFUL ☠☠☠☠☠☠

  • @anrew8853
    @anrew8853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    did he slash him

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anrew8853 he sure did, buddy. Where have you been?!

  • @LauraTrauth
    @LauraTrauth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly looked to me like the kid was a sabre fencer who did a foil competition because his coach wanted him to and he was going for low but legit sabre targets. I've seen many people move from one weapon to another and in the heat of competition, forget what's legit target. I agree, with an adult, this should be seen as preventable and intentional. But with a youth, you don't know what their training has been and it might have been instinct. Still, as a ref I would not have given one black card, but would have continued to card the action and increase the penalties over time and inform the fencer clearly what actions were leading to the cards so they could learn and self-correct. That said, a welt or bruise or two is to be expected. I have three lovely deep bruises on my leading thigh right now from last Saturday's epee bouting. I don't complain - I should have defended better.

    • @FreeFencer
      @FreeFencer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you watch the whole video? There is a longer clip of the bout than just the whacking. I highly doubt that kid has ever been trained in saber. He has a very typical style only found in foil designed to maximally take advantage of foil rules. Hiding behind his arm, leaning forward etc. it was an accident only in that it is an accident to be overwhelmed by one’s frustration. That’s not something that gives him a pass to take it out on his opponent. Whats next? A flying knee?

    • @crowKAKAWWW
      @crowKAKAWWW 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don't make hits like that in sabre, honestly I get less bruises from sabre compared to foil.

    • @fencingguy297
      @fencingguy297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The culprit is a rated foil fencer. Frustration clearly boiled over. Luckily, there was no serious injury. Some card should have been given.

  • @LS-Berliner
    @LS-Berliner 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Black.

  • @fencingguy297
    @fencingguy297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's just dirty play on the opponent's part. Shame on him and, especially, his coach for not making amends.

  • @lucasmusicjourney9500
    @lucasmusicjourney9500 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It should be black card in my opinion

  • @seancao999
    @seancao999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This really helped me!

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seancao999 glad we could help, buddy. Hope you’re fencing well

  • @jacobforey-miller3096
    @jacobforey-miller3096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn that intro hits a little close to the bone 😅

  • @deeko7441
    @deeko7441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much! As this has always been my problem… much appreciated!

  • @LivyWard
    @LivyWard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this one a lot! At 5 ft tall a lot of my classmates are taller so I need to be more strategic. Liked how you explained all the different options Kazuki Iimura can take (if the hop bait doesn’t work was awesome)! It’s clear a lot of hard work went into analyzing the bouts and editing in the clips too! Thank you! ❤

  • @lucasmusicjourney9500
    @lucasmusicjourney9500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I greatly appreciate your continuous efforts in thoughtfully analyzing the principles of both sides’ strategies in fencing. This is truly fencing with the mind. I believe many coaches have similar reflections, but you are the only channel I know that is willing to openly share fencing techniques and the strategic thinking behind them. My son and I are both loyal fans of yours.

  • @PhilipLivdan
    @PhilipLivdan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video quality is increasing exponentially.

  • @OlympicFoil
    @OlympicFoil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:10 amen brother

  • @acornian679
    @acornian679 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video. in future maybe try balance the music audio a little more as it can be hard to hear your voice at times. :)

  • @Spacebreakaarrhh
    @Spacebreakaarrhh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the explanation, please get more active with your breakdowns and tutorials again

  • @S-classFencing
    @S-classFencing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For those who use the middle of their finger, I this this is far more suitable for Belgian grips

  • @KaiLucasZachary
    @KaiLucasZachary 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I trained professionally for several years. When you say "as a lot of people like to do" in regards to putting tape on your handle... I literally NEVER saw a single person in my entire fencing studio do that, regardless of which style they fenced. I have no idea who taught you that, but that is absolutely not typical practice. Good luck finding an Olympian who does it.

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KaiLucasZachary I’m an Olympian who does it

    • @TheSakufighter
      @TheSakufighter 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ahh an elitist ahole that clearly never got outside of his bubble.

  • @ArK0niX
    @ArK0niX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you recommend to cut the noze of the grip to have thumb tip, and index knuckle resting on the pad?

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArK0niX yes as long as it’s comfortable, you don’t want the guard scraping against your fingers or knuckles

    • @ArK0niX
      @ArK0niX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@S-classFencing Ok thanks!! And you recommend having the tip of the middle finger slightly touching the part of the palm under the thumb, I tend to leave more of a gap between these two parts, I think I have more precision but I have the feeling that my fingers get tired pretty quickly and I lose strength on parries. So you'd advise having the middle finger wrap more around the grip?

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So your finger tip is touching your own palm?

    • @ArK0niX
      @ArK0niX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@S-classFencing No, on the contrary, I'm holding my gript on my fingertips, which means that the tip of my middle finger isn't touching my palm, but I think I'm losing firmness by doing that

  • @uselesscamel5360
    @uselesscamel5360 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this also true for epee? Always used the middle of my finger

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@uselesscamel5360 talk to your coach first, but we think so. Some grips, like Belgium grips, will change the weight distribution in your hand lending itself more to a “punchy” hit. If you use a French grip, some people teach to hold it toward the pommel to increase your range. This is the way we teach how to hold this type of grip, but make sure to talk to your coach to understand their philosophy because they might have a different logic or style to the way they teach to hold the weapon.

    • @jnormile
      @jnormile 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, it's the same for epee.

  • @seancao999
    @seancao999 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im going to try that today

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seancao999 great job last week, my guy!

    • @seancao999
      @seancao999 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@S-classFencing thank you!

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sean, I've told you to do this FOR YEARS - Eli

  • @Holo_bolo
    @Holo_bolo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it also apply to epee ?

  • @OlympicFoil
    @OlympicFoil 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow love the superimposition piece

  • @R4G1NG
    @R4G1NG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's me! Thanks for the response. To continue the discussion, are you saying that Macchi had started his "take over" too slowly after the search, or do you have issue with the withheld blade after the takeover making it seem like he isn't committing as much as Cheung? Or is it the fact you don't see macchi as "avoiding" the search at all?

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think in the final example in this video, he withholds the blade to avoid the search, while in the other examples he reacts to Cheung's search by taking over with the feet *then withholding the blade*. By withholding it *for no reason* (without the opponent searching) he gives up right of way in the case of a direct attack. Basically, the rules state the arm is what governs the attack, not just fast legs. So to answer your initial inquiry, if Left had performed a derobement rather than a pulling compound attack, that would actually be him "taking over" in the quickest possible time. Tl;dr: to attack in prep (or take advantage of an opponent's missed search, you must anticipate the search, not react to it). The only time reacting to it works is in the case of a really large search, like the second example in this video.

    • @S-classFencing
      @S-classFencing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unrelated, but I appreciate your use of 1337speak

  • @ticker5222
    @ticker5222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would be hesitant to call an evasion attack that crosses lines a search (unless against PIL). I've heard FIE directors say "I will not PRESCRIBE the path your tip must take to the target..."