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Its cause they don't tell women what they want to hear.

Great points! The worship of self is unsustainable. I'm a single woman in her 40s, and I suspect a lot of women leave because they would like to get married, and there aren't too many marriageable men in the church. What I find so odd is that people don't seem to think that women need emotional intimacy or sexual needs. Single women are just there for free labor and I am sure many have gotten fed up and left.

I am grateful to say that I am a born again Christian and have been since I was 19.......folks these days are getting darker and Christ is coming soon and if you don’t know Christ as your savior then it burdens my soul to think that you are headed for a terrible place called Hell where the Bible says the fire is never quenched and the worm dies not! Folks you are not promised tomorrow! If you want to know how to be saved from this horrible reality then please by all means don’t hesitate to comment right back so I can lead you to the savior! 2 Corinthians 6:2 clearly states “now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation!” And Hebrews 3:15 clearly states, “Today if you hear his voice don’t harden your hearts! it is not me but the Holy Spirit that I pray reveals to you the truth of his precious gospel......John 3:16 says for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes on him will not perish but have everlasting life! V 17 says then V 18 says whoever believes on the son is not condemned but whoever does not believe on the son is condemned already because he has not believed on the son whom God has sent! Also Acts 16:30-31 what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house I am not threatening anyone but just warning them what will happen if they reject this precious gift of eternal life! Christ died a horrible criminals death! He was beaten brutally mocked spit upon and endured countless hours of torture pain for all of our sins! Ppl go to hell because they reject that pardon for their sins! And Jesus is saying to them in Matthew 25:41 depart from me you cursed into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels! Hell was only prepared for Satan and his angels! It is not God who threatens anyone it is the craziness of rejecting the free pardon of salvation! It’s like if you’re in court you’ve committed a crime say you murdered someone! Now if you say to that Judge hey I know I’ve done a terrible thing of murdering that person but I hear you’re a good judge and so I know you’ll be fair to me...... the judge is going to reply well yes you’re right about one thing I am a good judge and because I’m a good judge I’m going to see to it that you’re punished and that justice is served! Well then all of a sudden someone you don’t even know comes forward and says you know what I know he’s committed the crime he’s committed and he deserves to go to jail but I really don’t want to see him go to prison so I’ll just go to prison for him so he can go free! So if you accepted that offer you’d be free to leave the courtroom but if you didn’t well you’d be crazy and go to prison yourself! Well that’s exactly how it was 2,000 years ago! He is God in human flesh and he came to this earth lived a perfect sinless life and even though he knew that we had sinned and because of our sins deserved to die miserably but he said no I don’t want to see them suffer so I will go and take their punishment for them! Even though he did absolutely nothing wrong still he chose to take the punishment for our sins so we can be set free from the power bondages and consequences of our disobedience to God! Romans 5:8 says For God commends his love toward us that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us! 1 John 2:2 says he was made to be the propitiation for our sins! And not just for our sins but the sins of the whole world! 2 Corinthians 5:21 He who knew no sin became Sin for us that we would be made his righteousness! The truth is if you had to get to Heaven by your own effort then you cannot do it! Because Romans 3:10 says there is not one that does good! No Not One! Romans 3:23 says For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God! Romans 6:23 says For the wages of sin is death! But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our lord! But the good news is Romans 10:9 If we confess with our mouth and believes in our hearts that Christ died for our sins then was raised from the dead we will be saved! V 10 For it’s with the heart we believe and it’s with the mouth confession is made unto salvation! God gave us 10 commandments to follow and we’ve broken every one of them! And because God is a good God he cannot allow our disobedience to him to go unpunished! Well then like I just mentioned above his son Jesus stepped forward and said no I don’t want to see them punished so I will take their punishment for them! And also like I said he died a terrible substitute criminal’s death for us on a cross so now all we have to do is accept that payment for our sins and we can escape the terrible wrath of God that is to fall on them who do not accept this atonement that was sacrificed for our sins! Praise the lord Romans 10:13 says Whoever calls on the name of the lord shall be saved! And 1 Peter 1:4 you’re an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you! Christ clearly said in John 14:6 I am the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the father but through me! Acts 4:12 clearly states that there is no other name given unto Heaven or earth by which we must be saved as there is salvation in no other! Jesus clearly states that there is clearly only one way to Salvation and it’s him that’s it! There is no other way! God Bless everyone who reads!

I had the perfect life with a great husband two wonderful daughters and son-in-law‘s a little granddaughter and a little grandson of 3 1/2 years old. Just over three months ago my grandson was tragically killed! I have been diving deeply into trying to find what proper response I should have to the Lord through this tragedy ! I have surrendered everything to him but the pain sometimes is extremely deep dark and raw. Thank you for this podcast! I just listened to the another one by Joni Erickson Tada wonderful advice for those that are hurting.!!

The thing is, all religions hate women. All of them. End of story. The only way to get a religion that treats women with anything resembling decency is to discard half the doctrine. Trying to fix that is like trying to fix a domestic abuser. Cannot be done. Instead of analyzing why women are leaving the church, religious groups are doubling, tripling and quadrupling down. Instead of addressing the sex abuse scandals, the fact that many ministers advise women to stay with sociopathic husbands because "divorce isn't Biblical," the fact that women are expected to do the unpaid heavy lifting that keep the church going, and many other issues too long for a TH-cam comment, churches have decided to reach out to angry single men that blame feminism for their self-inflicted problems. Particularly the ones who are mad that women won't have sex with them and often have violent fantasies about "getting back at" women. Case in point, here's a Tweet from a theobro where he fantasizes about using violent MMA moves on women who speak in church x.com/_nomadic_soul/status/1807961530287509631/photo/1 And as churches continue to reach out to men with these depraved and violent fantasies that are indistinguishable from the average Taliban member or Medival witch burner, more women will leave. And my suggestion to women is to get out while you can because the church is reaching out to the men you're afraid of meeting on the street.

Been out of religion for 18 years and never once looked back. Best decision I ever made was leaving high control religion. it wasn’t until I left that I finally found real community and I'm so happy to be free from all of that nonsense and superstition.

There's no such thing as "church buildings" in scriptures. Infact the building is the SYNAGOGUE if you read James 2:2 directly from Greek. His name wasn't even "James" it was actually Jacob. Secondly christianity is NOT the biblical faith that is written in there its a new religion created in the 3rd century by constantine. The biblical faith is actually called THE WAY that is written in the New Testament made up of Nazarenes Acts 24:5 =(Jews who believe) and Gentile believers known as Christians =Acts 11:26. People are waking up. YEHOSHUA aka Jesus is the truth. shalom

As a single woman, I was ignored unless I could 'help' with childcare, cooking, cleaning up after an event or 'donating' my time. And I got tired of everyone asking me when I was going to be married. Thank God for Covid.

Why would any woman stay in a religion? The belief of a higher power needs to go. We aren't getting anywhere believing in a God who apparently relishes in human suffering. So many wars and atrocities committed in the name of god, if he's real, he is getting off, completely, by what's happening with Israel and Palestine.

When a church is controlling and rude to hard-working, low-hanging fruit, we grow brains and leave the church for Jesus. This is doubly true for low-status, older single ladies who work hard, contribute but never good enough. I am Not my own god, but the pastors are rude and picky anyway. The church ladies are controlling, condescending and rude most of the time.

Look I'll talk about the elephant in the room that most church people are afraid to say. There are many reasons for this change. I'm guilty of some myself too. 1. The explosion of red pill and PUA. There are more men plotting and working together to trick women into giving up their virginity and to have sex with them. Dating is a huge risk for women. Many guys like to pose as Midwestern Christian guys before using social engineering on girls. These girls have no protection- there are no chaperones these days. She has to deal with guys who are older, stronger, more well trained, and smarter than her (I'm not stating that women are stupid but there are always someone smarter than you out there). Once she lost her virginity and the guy runs away- she goes to confession and gets forgiven by God. However, the Church community doesn't really accept her afterwards. Most young Catholic guys are very concerned about body count- especially since they never had sex. They don't want nonvirgins, so nonvirgins get excluded from the dating pool unless she is really hot or has a really good personality. She then has to either stay single for life or date outside the church. Yes there are guys who don't mind dating nonvirgins- but many Catholic guys care ALOT and you have to review you sexual past before getting a Catholic Wedding. SOLUTION: bring back church parties and chaperones so women can date safely. Update policies to keep up with Pick Up Artists. Help women create a wall of guardians to help filter out men. Focus less on purity and more on Chasity. --------------------- 2. Younger men are really into dominance due to watching *n*l sex porn. They have been trained to be turned on by sadism and being dominate. These type of guys frequently refuse to obey the pope, bishop, priest, fathers, and government because they "are not stupid". However they insist that women MUST obey them since it is natural way. They frequently think that no matter what they do that they are good guys. They frequently haze women to test how obedient they are. They also tend to not listen to their wives needs since it is emotionally overwhelming. SOLUTION: Encourage people to engage in No FAP and Porn Anonymous to help people cut the addiction. Challenge men to question if they are good men or if they just identify as good men. Discourage Red Pill. Find a treatment for sadism. We also need instructions during sermons on how to communicate better. -------------------------- 3. Younger women are getting abused more. In school kids are frequently undisciplined despite anti-bully campaigns and thus permitted to do whatever they want including bullying the weak. Many girls get sent inappropriate photos and harassed online. The response at our churches shows that we learned nothing from the Child Abuse scandle. Abused women are often bullied for choosing bad boys or not being strong enough to leave and then for divorcing, and for making the church look bad. Its a big reason why people keep bringing up the Child Abuse Scandal. Catholics often look the other way when abuse happens, fail to check up on those being abused, accuse them of mental illness, posing as a scam artists, or of being dangerous themselves. When seeing abuse, some catholic women will say "well my husband doesn't abuse me and its because I'm a smart woman who chose right...unlike you". Or they may say that she deserves it for not being more obedient. There is a strange hatred for the weak and sucking up and forgiving the strong. SOLUTION: We need to be less afraid of the enemy and looking bad. We need more empathy for abused women. Catholics need more instructions on how to be empathetic. ------------------------------------------------ 4. Trump showed that many Catholics are willing to look the other way when women are harassed in order to win. Trump was pretty vile to many women. Many men sort of ganged up on these "vile" women and cheered him on. This turned many women off. Trump normalized demonizing women. So now it is more okay to call a woman out on being fat or ugly (most women don't want to be fat nor ugly and want to change- few are celebrating being fat like the media implies). While trump did have the backbone to stand up to liberals, we are paying the price with so many women leaving. Many women do not want to be women anymore as a consequence. SOLUTION: We need to de-normalize harassing people. --------------------------------------------------------------- 5. We have a lot of expectations on women. They need to work full time, do continual education for work, raise kids, clean the house, keep slim and fit, and do family governance. Men are encouraged to only bring in a good income. They get a pass regarding childcare, cleaning the house, looks and other tasks. As a result, many women are exhausted. On top of it, many women are constantly criticized and rarely thanked. Their daughters don't want to be exhausted like them. Women who stay at home risk being abandoned and to lose everything in a divorce, and also risk a power imbalance that increase their chances of abuse. SOLUTION: We as a church need to be more grateful to women and their sacrifices. We need to give men more clear direction and standards on how they should behave. We need to be less critical. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6. Churches are cold and unwelcoming. Many Catholics are against their church being a "social club" and thus as discouraged community building while the LGBT works and invests quite a bit on community building along with many different capitalists product groups. Many Catholics have the feelings that they just come for the eucharists and that church is a holy place of prayer. In fact, a book recommended that churches stay away from services to focus on their core mission. This "hedgehog" strategy did not work out. When our church hired a youth corrdinator, the number of young adults exploded and they started to pair up. In the past, women used to organize these events, but between working full time and doing continual education, many women no longer have the free time to do this. Thus Community managers are needed. Churches used to be a place to meet a quality guy. Now many women can hang out at church for a decade and never get asked out. SOLUTION: churches really need to invest in community managers to create a healthy loving environment. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Catholics tend to demonize Catholics struggling in their prayer like much like Job's friends. Having god reject their novenas and prayers is like going through heart break. Many Catholics lack empathy and tend to berate grieving Catholics for being too entitled. There is emphases on 54 day and 9 day prayers basically guaranteeing help from God and setting expectations high. When God fails to help, the surrounded community like to ignore it since it makes them look bad. They cluster around and praise those who God answers, but those rejected by God also get rejected by the community when they are most vulnerable. The Grieving Catholics then feel like a idiot for believing that God will answer their prayers and frequently leave. SOLUTION: we need more empathy with struggling Catholics and expectation management for prayers ------------------------------------------------------ 8. Marrying late. Despite many Catholics having no sex before marriage- it surprisingly doesn't really motivate commitment phobic men to marry. So many men are afraid of choosing the wrong girl- that they drag things on forever. While atheist men fear divorce, Catholic men fear being stuck with a bad woman forever. Women can't wait forever to get married. It comes a point when they must either date outside the church, or remain single and childless. IVF is available to non Catholic women, but that is rightly not a option for Catholic women. However, this puts a lot of pressure on Catholic women when people are marrying later and later. Catholic men are really focused on marrying fertile women for children, so not being married by 30 or 35 is a big issue. SOLUTION: Figure out how to reverse the trend of marrying later and later. ------- 9. We don't listen to those who leave the church because we are too concerned about looking good. We don't want to talk about the real reasons and scare people away from the Church. These people then feel ignored and uncared for. Its easier to just say- well they leave because they are sinful and stupid people than to really look at ourselves. SOLUTION: listen to those who leave and try to fix and resolve problems while staying true to the faith. ----------

Every Christian suffers, yes, but some suffer more than others. Only someone who hasn't suffered deeply could think we all suffer to the same degree.

Very nice 👌

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Like Job, covered with sores and dust, like Jeremiah, after time in the pit, like Jesus, marred beyond recognition, suffering gives a divine beauty to the faces of those who, though He slay them, trust Him. Its a beauty to be respected and desired. "What? No scars?"

Lord Jesus, thank you for blessing us with another share from Joni, your strong and mighty, faithful warrior.

I’m so grateful to Joni. So deeply grateful for helping me in my suffering. What a beautiful light she is. What a precious, precious woman.

I sure hope walking into church is NOT like walking into heaven. I was hoping God would finally show up when I got to heaven.

She is exhausted !! 2.32, 45.32

Suffering is not the source of joy ,please don't give warped ed and detrimental setmons !!😹

To me she looks pretty,encouraging and happy

I enjoyed the video! I wonder if Tom knows of or has written any books about secular counseling as a Christian this is my first year as a school psych and there are topics I'm not comfortable with in my practice, particularly issues of sexuality and sexual orientation. I have been looking for readings on this topic! It's helpful to know how other counselors who are Christians deal with this topic.

A prayer is that God would help us regardless of what we are going through.We will get to where we are going if we persist ultimately His kingdom

Thankyou for the cross for with it comes joy and peace and above that grace.Thankyou God for Jesus Christ

Internal warring sucks. I understand and can relate about the college life being a tumultuous but life changing part of my life.

I appreciate your wisdom from God’s word

How sad that the volume on this is so low that I actually can't hear it. Strange because the adverts interrupting are so LOUD and I can hear every word of those that I am not interested in, but Joni's video - it's hopeless. I literally can't hear one word unless I bend right down and put my ear to the screen and even then can't always make out what is being said. So said because that might be the case for other on here - I don't know.

Joni is such a hero of mine and has inspired me to suffer more cheerfully and to seek the Lord's help very first thing before getting out of bed. She always inspires me and to have a better perspective on pain and suffering. Thank you for having her on.

Thank you so much for this, I enjoyed both of you in your chat! God bless you! Glory to god!

Joni, I think you look wonderful. You are always so refreshing to listen to, and I see the glory of Yeshua in you every single time.

She and her husband are my heros; don't care how you think she looks.

The person on left has a tan or the settings are bringing healthy look and whatever camera Joni has on her today is way too bright thus her skin looks deathly white. Its the difference in lighting. 🎉

Thank you for this! Joni is always inspiring! I don’t have physical pain, but my life has been full of difficulties and hurt. I love to hear her uplifting message. And to the person who thinks she looks tired- I think she looks amazing for being 72 years old! I’m 61 and I’m exhausted. I pray for the endurance that she has had!

Please tell Joni that Jesus wants her to know that her healing is just around the corner! Hang on to all that you know is true! I have been praying with you and for you for a very long time! Thank you for teaching the Way to The Cross of Jesus! Your life Walk is more of a sermon that Speaks louder than the fear and pain that you carry in your soul through your Daily Intercession! Thank you for carrying such a heavy cross like Jesus!

Wonderful Christian encouragement. God bless you Joni! Thank you Jen. Loved hearing what Joni shared, especially what she said about the disciplines, memorising Scripture, especially for the night watches when our natural thoughts can so discourage. "Everything can be sanctified!"

I cant get through this pain without the help of Jesus!😢

God bless you and keep you Joni. I hope we meet in heaven one day, after we have served our Lord on earth.

helpful. thank you for making this available. hope to get ahold of the book at some point.

Thank you for this important interview. In my experience, mental illness is an issue that has been terribly neglected by the church and is screaming for our attention. Far too often, people struggling with mental illness just slip through the cracks of the church and are never seen again, whether through suicide, or feeling invisible, or that nobody cares, or that they are just a hindrance or obstruction to the ministry. Nothing hurts more than being profoundly emotionally disturbed in the midst of a crowd of smiling people on Sunday asking you, "How are you doing?", when you know they wouldn't know how to respond to an honest answer. Many have stopped going to church for this reason. Often times, depressed people have been let down by their "help" and don't have the strength to reach out again. If somebody doesn't reach out to them with a firm grasp, they will just slip away. The noblest among us may give them a phone call or text, but it will end there.

Thank you Jesus for Your great grace.

I think it is easy to look at someone who suffers and say just try to cope, endure embrace the pain ( physical) but you can’t empathize with someone who suffers to the point they cannot function properly. Pain is a life interruptor and it’s too hard to bear when it is severe pain everyday or nearly everyday. It is hard to put on a smile. I just find it’s so easy to tell someone what they should endure when they haven’t had to. I am not referring to Joni, she has endured.

Emotions just suck 😢 sometimes

Joni looks tired and discouraged, no matter how much she tries to look encouraging. She doesn't look happy . When she was younger she looked much "happier' in her suffering.. if there even is such a thing. . wow what a saint. Will God take her home soon? She will surely be one of the happiest in heaven, sitting in the lap of Jesus our Lord...... That's not a position for the many, only the FEW, .

Why so much of Jen? If she has a guest,.. why does she spend The first minutes of her video talking, giving us facts from worldly data? Who cares about the Pew research??? Aren't we supposed to be hearing the guest??? A GOOD interviewer let's the guest talk. They don't interject their stories or talk about their lives. Make a separate video if you want to talk about your life Jen..... Quiet down, .. let guests talk .. Most of us don't have 40 minutes to listen to a video That could have been 20 minutes because the guest talked, not the host. get to the point

Interesting....but the church is a community. The hole point of going to church is be apart of a community. What this sounds like is the church is failing to build its own community. Its failing to understand how to build bonds within its people so they look forward to communing and being around each other as the body of christ. I left the church a long time ago but this is the main reason why i left. I was a leader but the community wasnt doing anything if my peers didnt even like me or respect me. Especially when i did nothing wrong and when i did say something wrong i apologized for it which is way more than a lot of people get in romantic relationships. Which those people never apologized for their part in it as well. I just left...the church loves talking about soul ties but soul ties are not JUST sexual. You can soul ties from interacting with individuals over a certain time too. Things can rub off, memories can be raw in you like the day they happened. Yes you can forgive but the tie is still there. I dont think churches are working anymore and they need to transform if they want to survive.

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This was so encouraging!

Hi, Jen. Could you please share the source for the alcohol and drug misuse/abuse stats in minute 5 or so?

This is not biblical language ... or a Christian review. Man can be alone - as you said after the fall which is all of us. Catholic is not Christian. Using God in vain in the movie, curse words, using sexual innuendos, etc etc etc... sorry I can't listen to it all in case you did say it. Are you saying a woman doesn't have an identity outside of marriage in Christ? You said two paychecks yet God says man works and woman takes care of home and child raising... nobody reproduces because they don't have genders..haha, against God. This movie is completely against God and why you would go see it anyhow is odd. Barbie has always been sexualizing people which God hates.

Blessings and greetings from Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic! Thanks for sharing this video!